On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 3:36:13 PM UTC-5, Robert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I modify a test suite, and simplified to the below content.
> I am interested in function:
> test_bad_covariance_type()
>
> I think that it tests for wrong type input, i.e.
> 'badcovarianc
Hi,
I see the following line in a cython file (.pyx):
cdef inline dtype_t _logsumexp(dtype_t[:] X) nogil:
.
fwdlattice[t, j] = _logsumexp(work_buffer) + framelogprob[t, j]
I find that [:] is about object copy, but I am not sure about its usage
here in a function parameter. Whet
Hi,
When I read a code snippet below, I find I don't know what 'self.framelogprob'
is on the child class.
// parent class
class _BaseHMM(BaseEstimator):
def __init__(self, n_components=1,
startprob_prior=1.0, transmat_prior=1.0,
algorithm="viterbi", ran
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 3:52:12 PM UTC-5, Peter Otten wrote:
> Robert wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > When I read a code snippet below, I find I don't know what
> > 'self.framelogprob' is on the child class.
> >
> >
> >
> &g
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 3:52:12 PM UTC-5, Peter Otten wrote:
> Robert wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > When I read a code snippet below, I find I don't know what
> > 'self.framelogprob' is on the child class.
> >
> >
> >
> &g
Hi,
I read below code snippet on link:
https://docs.python.org/2/library/functions.html#property
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class C(object):
def __init__(self):
self._x = None
def getx(self):
return self._x
def setx(self, value):
self._x = value
def delx(self):
On Friday, June 13, 2014 8:07:45 AM UTC+2, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
> The documentation is a bit vague about it:
>
>If only globals is provided, it must be a dictionary, which will be
>used for both the global and the local variables. If globals and
>locals are given, they are used for
Will this be the last one? It has been two years.
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icode strings should be displayed as nice as possible at the
console with normal print-s to stdout (on varying platforms, different
windows/countries and linux, ...; I py2exe/cxfreeze apps) ...
Any hints how to do this and make it as complete and automated as
possible?
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Martin v. Löwis schrieb:
> Robert wrote:
> > I'm using Pythonwin and py2.3 (py2.4). I did not come clear with this:
> > I want to use win32-fuctions like win32ui.MessageBox,
> > listctrl.InsertItem . to get unicode strings on the screen - best
> > results ac
tf-8 or backslashreplace if
non-existing.
Also: Is wide unicode output possible somehow with PythonWin - at least
in certain cases? by WM_SETTEXT ,...SETITEM ... tricks?
On Linux there is some improvement after setting
site.py/encoding='utf-8'. Still the locale sensitive encoding on
gregarican wrote:
> Robert wrote:
>
> > (windows or linux console)
> >
> > >>> print u'\u034a'
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "", line 1, in ?
> > File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\encodings\cp850.py&q
t:
def write(self,s):
_stdout.write(s.encode(_stdoutenc,'backslashreplace'))
sys.stdout=StdOut()
fragile tricks... and pain on each project and python installation.
Shouldn't something like that (or 'replace') (or a prominent
switch-function for such behaviour) be the default for python - output
the maximum, not minimum ?
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Martin v. Löwis schrieb:
> Robert wrote:
> >>>>win32ui.MessageBox(s)
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "", line 1, in ?
> > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position
> &g
Neil Hodgson schrieb:
> Robert:
> PythonWin did have some Unicode support but I think Mark Hammond was
> discouraged by bugs. In pythonwin/__init__.py there is a setting
> is_platform_unicode = 0 with a commented out real test for Unicode on
> the next line. Change this to 1
Neil Hodgson wrote:
> Robert:
>
> > After "is_platform_unicode = ", scintilla displays some unicode
> > as you showed. but the win32-functions (e.g. MessageBox) still do not
> > pass through wide unicode.
>
> Win32 issues are better discussed on the p
Martin v. Löwis schrieb:
> Robert wrote:
> > is in a PythonWin Interactive session - ok results for cyrillic chars
> > (tolerant mbcs/utf-8 encoding!).
> > But if I do this on Win console (as you probably mean), I get also
> > encoding Errors - no matter if chcp1251, b
Thomas Heller schrieb:
> "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Neil Hodgson wrote:
> >> Robert:
> >>
> >> > After "is_platform_unicode = ", scintilla displays some unicode
> >> > as you showed. but the
gs\cp850.py", line 18, in encode
return codecs.charmap_encode(input,errors,encoding_map)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode characters in position
146-150:
character maps to
>>>
=> "What is this cp850.py and has to do with my (undefined?) files? A
very cice language, which cannot print by default... go to Java ...
Bye"
My recommendation is to use 'backslashreplace as default mode. Nobody
is angry when alien chars are printed in this style.
Robert
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7; is not recognized commonly by email-readers, but
'ISO-8859-1' or 'Windows-1252' are usually used for that area.
Robert
PS: side-question: why is there a latin_1.py and a iso8859_1.py in
lib/encodings ? Shouldn't they be the same?
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uth?
* Is there a Python function out there to do real NTLM authentication?..
and is this recommended to dig into Microsofty HTTP protocols ?
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hon23\Scripts" are written/changed. nothing in
site-packages/pythonwin and site-packages/win32* is changed by the wx
installer. Or does the wx installer change something in the DLL's in
\windows or worse...?
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robert wrote:
>
> c:\Python23\pythonw.exe.manifest
> c:\Python23python.exe.manifest
>
I found out that in fact when I move away these 2 files to a backup
location after a wx installation, things go well again.
What at all do this .manifest files do ?
And why do win32ui apps fre
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> At Friday 13/10/2006 19:33, robert wrote:
>
>> > c:\Python23\pythonw.exe.manifest
>> > c:\Python23python.exe.manifest
>> >
>>
>> I found out that in fact when I move away these 2 files to a backup
>> location after a w
zation capabs.
(But I think there are no decent python IDE's on *nix :-( )
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hon
(as one is accustomed to in compiler langs)
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do people generally think? Is it as simple as I
haven't set something up right, or do I have to declare the
intermediate loggers, or does having multiple layers just suck!!!
Useful comment welcome!
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Hi again
I have seen my error! I was mistakenly occasionally creating the logger
using
logger = logging.Logger("a.b.c")
instead of
logger = logging.getLogger("a.b.c")
Doh. I miss my private constructors to save me from such embarrasment
;^)
Cheers
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>>> timeit.Timer('x=a[30:40].max()','import
>>> numpy;a=numpy.ones(300,numpy.float)').timeit(1)
0.21344193186450866
>>> timeit.Timer('a*=0.99','import
>>> Numeric;a=Numeric.ones(300,Numeric.Float)').timeit(1)
0.293094513410324
>>> timeit.Timer('a*=0.99','import
>>> numarray;a=numarray.ones(300,numarray.Float)').timeit(1)
0.061937480881169904
>>> timeit.Timer('a*=0.99','import
>>> numpy;a=numpy.ones(300,numpy.float)').timeit(1)
0.16990958347923879
strange differences in all directions ...
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syntax translation would help.
Is there a tool or script around which can help at least to save most of typing
work?
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dex lists anyway...)
( To maybe reduce number of files/inodes bulk many items into one
pickle/shleve/anddbm.. file by using sub hash keys. Example: 1 million words =>
1 files x ~100 sub-entries x 1 refs. )
* a fast relational/dictionary database (mysql)
* Advanced memory mapped file techniques / C-OODBMS ( ObjectStore/PSE ); 64bit
OS if > 3GB
( thats the technique telecoms often run their tables fast - but this is
maybe too advanced ... )
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-expr)
Any ideas?
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uld one better stay away from numpy in current stage of numpy development?
I remember, with numarray there were no such problems.
-robert
PS: in Gnuplot.utils:
def float_array(m):
"""Return the argument as a Numeric array of type at least 'Float32'.
Leave
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> At Thursday 26/10/2006 16:30, robert wrote:
>
>> I want to use a computation cache scheme like
>>
>>
>> o = CACHECOMPUTE complex-key-expr expensive-calc-expr
>>
>>
>> frequently and elegantly without writing c
Mike Kent wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> I want to use a computation cache scheme like
>>
>>
>> o = CACHECOMPUTE complex-key-expr expensive-calc-expr
>>
>>
>> frequently and elegantly without writing complex-key-expr or
>> expensive-calc-expr t
See py2.3 is still supported for Mac.
I'd like a py2.3 version for Windows still :cry-baby:
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John Salerno wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> Robin Dunn wrote:
>>> Announcing
>>> --
>>>
>>> The 2.7.1.3 release of wxPython is now available for download at
>>> http://wxpython.org/download.php. This release is a yet another
>>>
#x27;with' solution you#d need:
try:
f=open(path)
try:
script=f.read()
finally:
f.close()
except EnvironmentError,v:
wx.MessageBox(v, 'Message Title')
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Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> robert a écrit :
> (snip)
>> class MemoCache(dict): # cache expensive Objects during a session
>> (memory only)
>>def memo(self, k, f):
>>try: return self[k]
>>except KeyError:#<- was erro
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>>> robert a écrit :
>>> (snip)
>>>> class MemoCache(dict): # cache expensive Objects during a session
>>>> (memory only)
>>>>def memo(self, k,
> Robert, that's not the point. I do have enough Python knowledge to
> understand this (totally trivial) code !-)
>
> What I don't understand is how this code is supposed to save you from
> having to actually write both complex-key-expr and
> expensive-calc-express
a theory, that "bad source code" has more if/else/elif/case/switch
dispatching statements per number of code words (lines..) than "good code" -
independent of the language.
If you can count these ratio and correlate it to maybe a sf-ranking and to
languages, that would be highly interesting for me... (in case drop a pointer
in this thread / repeated subject)
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ort
them ..
#modx
import mody
def fx():
mody.doy()
#mody
import modx
def fy():
modx.dox()
Python allows everything most easy for that kind of problems of all langs I
know of. Mainly the fact that a module is a real object in Python provides
tremendous flexibility and self-similarity
Jürgen Exner wrote:
>> Xah Lee wrote:
>>> I had a idea today.
>
> Oh, really? You should mark your calendar and celebrate the day annually!!!
>
>>> I wanted to know what are the top most frequently used functions in
>>> the emacs lisp language.
>
> And the relationship with Perl, Python, Java is
from basic import *
File "C:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\scipy\special\basic.py", line 8, in ?
from _cephes import *
ImportError: numpy.core.multiarray failed to import
>>> import numpy.core.multiarray
>>>
>>> import scipy
>>> scipy.__version__
'0.5.1'
>>> numpy.__version__
'1.0'
>>>
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s in win32ui (the only complex extension lib I
use) as cause for this. All statistics point towards import problems.
Any ideas?
Are there problems known with the import lock (Python 2.3.5) ?
(I cannot easily change from Python 2.3 and it takes weeks to get significant
feedback after random impro
om):
_global.a = 1
setattr(_global,atom+'var', 2)
# all/app global
import myglobals
def f(atom):
myglobals.a=1
setattr(myglobals)
your example application seems to point towards 'odd' use of these techniques.
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e only
questionable things have to do with rare change of some globals, but this has
not at all to do with the severe problems here and could only affect e.g wrong
url2_proxy or double/unecessary re-creation of an opener, which is uncritical
in my app.
I'm still
Steve Holden wrote:
> Klaas wrote:
>> robert wrote:
>>
>>> Klaas wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems clear that the import lock does not include fully-executing
>>>> the module contents. To fix this, just import cookielib before the
>>
l import libraries?
(another option is to stay with Python2.3, which has a small memory footprint
and compiles with crtl4.2 libs (VC6, ...) )
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ts of comfort in threaded programming
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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>> Is it really not possible to create extension libs with
> > older MSVC or Mingw, which work with regular Python binaries
> > version 2.4 and 2.5 ?
>
> last time I tried, it took me 20 minutes from that I typed "ming
Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:15:58 -0500, Jean-Paul Calderone
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:54 +0100, robert
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'd like to use multiple CPU cores for selected time con
Feature Request: Py_NewInterpreter to create separate GIL (branch)
Daniel Dittmar wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> I'd like to use multiple CPU cores for selected time consuming Python
>> computations (incl. numpy/scipy) in a frictionless manner.
>>
>> Interprocess com
Filip Wasilewski wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> I'd like to use multiple CPU cores for selected time consuming Python
>> computations (incl. numpy/scipy) in a frictionless manner.
>>
>> Interprocess communication is tedious and out of question, so I thought
>
ct?
Use PythonWin on Windows. It is based on the same Scintilla editor, but
provides real interaction and inline script execution capabs, debugging ...
SciTE catches only stdout ( sometimes :-) ) etc.
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Daniel Dittmar wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> Question Besides: do concurrent INC/DEC machine OP-commands
>> execute atomically on Multi-Cores as they do in Single-Core threads?
>
> No on the level that that Python reference counting is implemented. The
> CPUs have oft
Robert Kern wrote:
> Magnus Lycka wrote:
>> robert wrote:
>>> When one follows ..
>>> http://docs.python.org/inst/tweak-flags.html#SECTION000622000
>>> http://www.zope.org/Members/als/tips/win32_mingw_modules
>>>
>>> ..this see
style - if you are too lazy to create a extra global variables module
(ab)use the __main__ module als "global":
import __main__
__main__.mysemphore += 1
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Robert Kern wrote:
> This is what Martin said:
>
> """
> It used to be possible to link with it. See
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/abx4dbyh(VS.80).aspx
>
> This is now a "known DLL", and meant for use by system-level components
>
Daniel Dittmar wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> (IPython is only a special "python network terminal" as already said.)
>
> Sorry, I thought of IronPython, the .NET variant.
>
>> Does Jython really eliminate the GIL? What happens when different
>
> Yes.
>
rent routines but I think they
> call the same one ).
>
try scipy.linalg.inv etc.
(you are using outdated old NumPy modules with recent array type which
sometimes creates type conflicts.
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easily be reduced to 2 files by 'embedding' the libray.zip
> into the exe (use the zipfile=None option), and deleting the w9xpopen.exe
> if you don't need win98 support.
and finally you can use Python2.3 to avoid msvcr71.dll
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Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> robert schrieb:
>> in combination with some simple locking (anyway necessary) I don't see a
>> problem in ref-counting.
>
> In the current implementation, simple locking isn't necessary.
> The refcounter can be modified freely since t
Paul Rubin wrote:
> robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> I don't want to discourage you but what about reference
>>> counting/memory
>>> management for shared objects? Doesn't seem fun for me.
>> in combination with some simple locking (anyway
GHUM wrote:
> robert,
>
>> Interprocess communication is tedious and out of questio
> [...]
>> I expect to be able to directly push around Python Object-Trees between the
>> 2 (or more) interpreters by doing some careful locking.
>
> Please do yourself a fav
;C:\Programme\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\BIN\link.exe"' failed
with exit status 1103
C:\usr\src\pywin32-210>
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Ross Ridge wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> I've trouble compiling win32all. VC98 and latest SDK installed
>> (otherwise with original SDK it won't even compile).
>> It tells that uuid.lib(cguid_i.obj) : fatal error LNK1103: debug info
>> is destroyed.
>
> The
there is a common base exception class
(EnvironmentError or an new super class) for these kind of exceptions (socket,
httplib, ftplib, ...)
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Why can the default locale not be set by its true name? but only by '' ? :
PythonWin 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on
win32.
>>> import locale
>>> locale.getlocale()
(None, None)
>>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,"de_DE")
Traceback (most recent call last):
Leo Kislov wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> Why can the default locale not be set by its true name? but only by '' ? :
>
> Probably it is just not implemented. But since locale names are system
> specific (For example windows accepts 'ch' as Chinese in Taiwan
ns etc don't require extra locking
Maybe the separated-GIL/interpreter-method can be a bridge to that.
Refcounting probably doen't necessarily block that road.
Really interesting would be to make an experiment about the speed costs of LOCK
INC. Guess the hot spot regarding recounting will be Py_None's cache line (on
multi core CPUs with separated cache per core).
Robert
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robert wrote:
> Martin v. Löwis wrote:
[..]
>
> Thanks for that info. That is interesting.
> Thus even on x86 currently this LOCK is not used (just
> (op)->ob_refcnt++) )
>
> Reading this I got pinched: In win32ui there are infact Py_INC/DECREF's
> out
Sandra-24 wrote:
> On Nov 2, 1:32 pm, robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd like to use multiple CPU cores for selected time consuming Python
>> computations (incl. numpy/scipy) in a frictionless manner.
>>
>> Interprocess communication is tedious and o
oshmodule.sourceforge.net/posh/html/node6.html: is this true for numpy
arrays?)
Every object to be inserted in the hot tunnel object tree has to be copied that
same style. Thus ~pickling, but somewhat easier to use.
And compiling it for Windows will be quite difficult ...
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Usually you'd do this
* if you do time consuming C/system stuff
* or if the code can possibly renter Python through the system (e.g. when you
call a Windows function which itself can create Windows messages to be routed
back into Python message handlers)
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Svein Seldal wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> PyGILState_Ensure/Release guarantees to establish the GIL - even if it
>> was already held (useful if you deal with complex call
>> ordering/dependencies)
>
> I understand this to mean that I dont need to explicitly lock the GIL
Paul Rubin wrote:
> robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> what about speed. Is it true that IronPython is almost as fast as C-Python
>> meanwhile?
>>
>> When this all is really true, its probably a proof that putting out
>> LOCK-INC-lock's (on dict
sturlamolden wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>> I'd like to use multiple CPU cores for selected time consuming Python
>> computations (incl. numpy/scipy) in a frictionless manner.
>
> Threading is not the best way to exploit multiprocessors in this
> context. Thre
Paul Boddie wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> Shane Hathaway wrote:
>>> of multiple cores. I think Python only needs a nice way to share a
>>> relatively small set of objects using shared memory. POSH goes in that
>>> direction, but I don't t
robert wrote:
> --
> 0040101F mov eax,3B9ACA00h
> 13: for (i = 0; i < count; ++i) {
> 14: __asm lock inc x;
> 00401024 lock incdword ptr [_x (00408a00)]
> 15: sum += x;
> 0040102B mov edx,dword ptr [_x (004
ssume that test code has to be done for a
good program anyway
(and/otherwise "pychecker" will neutralize most first-glance disadvantages of
Python)
* Jave (typed code) ist executed faster. Yet Python is even faster when using
little C, Pyrex, ...
That is probably what counts.
Rob
Is there a ready made function in numpy/scipy to compute the correlation y=mx+o
of an X and Y fast:
m, m-err, o, o-err, r-coef,r-coef-err ?
Or a formula to to compute the 3 error ranges?
-robert
PS:
numpy.corrcoef computes only the bare coeff:
>>> numpy.corrcoef((0,1,2,3.0),(
Robert Kern wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> Is there a ready made function in numpy/scipy to compute the correlation
>> y=mx+o of an X and Y fast:
>> m, m-err, o, o-err, r-coef,r-coef-err ?
>
> And of course, those three parameters are not particularly meaningful
> toge
robert wrote:
> Robert Kern wrote:
> http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0162-1459(192906)24%3A166%3C170%3AFFPEOC%3E2.0.CO%3B2-Y
>
>
> tells:
> probable error of r = 0.6745*(1-r**2)/sqrt(N)
>
> A simple function of r and N - quite what I expected above roughly for
> t
ting technique, but maybe there is a (commonly used) speedy
formula for r/r_err respecting that directly?
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sturlamolden wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>>> t = r * sqrt( (n-2)/(1-r**2) )
>
>> yet too lazy/practical for digging these things from there. You obviously
>> got it - out of that, what would be a final estimate for an error range of r
>> (n big) ?
>> tha
sturlamolden wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>> here the bootstrap test will as well tell us, that the confidence intervall
>> narrows down by a factor ~sqrt(10) - just the same as if there would be
>> 10-fold more of well distributed "new" data. Thus this k
histicated tree fumbling will cost more.
Or at max use a 1D-btree thing or so for x0,x1 or a fix 16x16 array ..
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What is a most simple expression for splitting a CSV line with "-protected
fields?
s='"123","a,b,\"c\"",5.640'
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/Py_END_ALLOW_THREADS bracket during time
consuming/system/reenter-endangered message stuff.
Robert
> I think I've found the bug, but I need to confirm this behavior.
>
> My findings is that if you use PyEval_InitThreads(), it is crucial to
> release the GIL with PyE
sturlamolden wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>> Think of such example: A drunken (x,y) 2D walker is supposed to walk along a
>> diagonal, but he makes frequent and unpredictable pauses/slow motion. You
>> get x,y coordinates in 1 per second. His speed and time pattern at all
r
discussion.
Maybe there are more Python users which like to see that imported
(managed) logging issue more down-to-earth and flexible ? ...
Vinay Sajip wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>>some packages like paramiko use the logging. I get this messages:
>>"No handlers could be fo
roadmap how to do something like that with
Windows most easily?
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rivers, small memory mics and browser client software - areas
which (still) lack Python support ?
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gif's/png/jpg as the images are big but mostly white and going
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apps have this requirement? And GUI apps
probably count more (also in line numbers) than web apps today as more
and more Delphi, BCPPB, Java, C++/MFC developers switch to Python?
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Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
> codecs are in python24.dll, mscvr71, mfc71 and all are not.
> However, they are not in core - the operating system demand-pages code,
> loading into core memory only what is being used. So if you don't use
> the codecs, they a
>>> win32api.GetFileAttributes('?\\'+fabs)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in ?
error: (206, 'GetFileAttributes', 'Der Dateiname oder die Erweiterung
ist zu lang.')
>>>
(='206 The filename or extension is too long')
What can I do?
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Simple Python code obviously cannot use the dual core by Python threads.
Yet, a program drawing CPU mainly for matrix computations - preferably
with Numeric/SciPy - will this profit from a dual core when using 2 (or
more) Python threads?
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