I had that problem after moving my Python installation into another directory.
Reinstalling Python helped.
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Hello,
I'm trying to learn python programming and so far so good. However when
trying to master the oop side I ran into a small problem.
I think I've done everything ok as outlined below. But I just don't
understand why the `method' of `class' example isn't printing any of the
variables that I
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:57:04 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
>> class example:
>> def __init__(self, foo, bar):
>> self.foo = foo
>> self.bar = bar
>>
>> def method(self):
>> print "method ... :"
>> print self.foo
>> print self.bar
>>
>> if __name__ == "__
Hello,
I have a question regarding the return value of re.split() since I have
been unable to find any answers in the regular sources of documentation.
Please consider the following:
#!/usr/bin/env python
import re
if __name__ == "__main__":
datum = "2008-03-14"
the_date = re.split('^
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:31:20 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
<..>
Ok thank you !
I think I got a bit lost in all the possibilities python has to offer.
But your answers did the trick.
Thank you all again for responding and elaborating.
Cheers,
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:34:27 -0700, John Machin wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2:53 am, klaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:31:20 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
>>
>> <..>
>>
>> Ok thank you !
>>
>> I think I got a bit lost in
Hi,
if I understand the documentation of the tarfile module correctly writing
TarfileObject.add(".../path/to/filename", recursive=False)
means that the directory structure of the file object will not be included
in the archive.
In the following script only "testtext1.pdf" is s
changed in python-3.9.1?
If yes what is its name now?
hplip version is the latest, hplip-3.20.11, but they have not taken
notice of the problem as far as i know.
Any help is much appreciated
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Hi,
Trying to install Python 3.8.3 with tkinter I run configure with the
following options
./configure --enable-optimizations --with-ssl-default-suites=openssl
--with-openssl=/usr/local --enable-loadable-sqlite-extensions
--with-pydebug --with-tcltk-libs='-L/opt/ActiveTcl-8.6/lib/tcl8.6'
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On 7/22/20 11:05 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
On 2020-07-22 06:20, Klaus Jantzen wrote:
Trying to install Python 3.8.3 with tkinter I run configure with the
following options
./configure --enable-optimizations --with-ssl-default-suites=openssl
--with-openssl=/usr/local --enable-loadable-sqlite
On 7/22/20 12:20 PM, Klaus Jantzen wrote:
Hi,
Trying to install Python 3.8.3 with tkinter I run configure with the
following options
./configure --enable-optimizations --with-ssl-default-suites=openssl
--with-openssl=/usr/local --enable-loadable-sqlite-extensions
--with-pydebug --with
Hi,
the other day I came across the book "Classic Computer Science Problems
in Python" by David Kopec.
The function definitions in the examples like
=
def fib2(n: int) -> int:
if n < 2: # base case
return n
return fib2(n - 2) + fib2(n - 1) # recursive case
if __name__
ly.
Why did it crash, when I open the helpbook in it?
I'm using python v2.4.1, wx.python v2.6.1.0 and boa constructor v0.4.4
on windows XP.
thanks for any help.
greets Klaus
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what is the fastest way to determine whether list l (with
len(l)>3) contains a certain element?
Klaus
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error: error in setup.cfg: command 'py2exe' has no such option
'version_legalcopyright'
until I've deleted all options.
I'm using python 2.4.1 and py2exe 0.6.2 on Windows XP SP2.
Thanks for any help.
Greets,
Klaus
PS:
Here my example setup.py:
from distutils.core im
e list of
all those names, but I could not find it. (The Python Reference Manual
only says that there is the type "Dictionary" in Python, but not that
'dict' is a semi-reserved word.) Can you point me to such a list?
Klaus
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Anthony Baxter schrieb:
happy to announce the release of Python 2.4.
Thanks!
minor remarks:
First line from C:\Python24\README.txt
This is Python version 2.4 alpha 3
In C:\Python24\Tools
in various subdirs the README.TXT files disappeared.
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become much larger.
At the moment, the process takes several hours. As it is a process
that I have to run very often, I would like it to be faster.
How could the problem be solved more efficiently?
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e try-solution the process took 37 seconds. With the
if-solution the process took so much time that I didn't bother to
wait.
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Ik zal aan deze bijeenkomst deelnemen.
Ik ben de developer van SimPy (Simulation in Python). Als er belangstelling
bestaat, kan ik op een van de toekomstige meetings een presentatie over
SimPy geven.
Klaus Müller
simpy.sourceforge.net
> -Original Message-
> From: Johannes Gi
Hello,
I have downloaded Python3.5.1 as .targz, compiled it(configure, make,...)
and it works
(under Debian Wheezy AMD64) up to the moment I wanted to use SQLite.
I get the following message:
===
jantzen@PC4:~$ python
Python 3.5.0 (default, Dec 2 2015, 14:16:16)
[GCC 4
On 02/21/2016 10:37 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
(Sorry for top posting)
IIRC, you have to do
sudo apt-get install build-essential python-dev
... then re-compile python
> To: [1]python-list@python.org
> From: [2]k.d.jant...@mailbox.org
> Subject: SQLite
On 02/22/2016 02:44 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam
[1] wrote:
IIRC, you have to do
sudo apt-get install build-essential python-dev
... then re-compile python
That may well work, but it's probably easier to work this way:
sudo apt-get build
On 02/22/2016 09:32 AM, Klaus Jantzen wrote:
On 02/21/2016 10:37 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
(Sorry for top posting)
IIRC, you have to do
sudo apt-get install build-essential python-dev
... then re-compile python
> To: [[1]1]python-list@python.
Thank you for this input. I was primarily looking for a download site.
I downloaded HyperText and definitely will give it a try. It looks good.
Klaus
> -Original Message-
> From: Gabriel Genellina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:49 PM
>
s has nothing
> to do with freedom in /any/ sense of the word, it has to do with a
> political agenda opposed to the idea of private property.
>
private property is unethical
Klaus Schilling
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Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Oh, I missed that. I just saw something about software should be
> shared
of course it should, as otherwise it would be immoral,
> and programmers should be content with an hourly wage, not
> sales.
>
only greedy creeps wo
f
the Symbolic Expressions, but continue rejoycing in
infix Syntax.
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easy example case of my problem.
What did I do wrong?
Best regards,
Klaus
source:
class myList(list):
pass
class myObject:
def __init__(self, parent=None):
self.parent = parent
if __name__ == '__main__':
r = myList()
r.append( myObject(r) )
f
What did I do wrong?
Old Python version? :)
Seems to work in 3.0 (don't have 2.6 currently to check but IMO it's
fixed there as well).
It works for me with v3.0 as well, but not with v2.6.1 (same error as
stated before for v2.4).
Is there any way to fix this in v2.6.1 or even v2.4? Right now I
Ned Deily wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Klaus Kopec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What did I do wrong?
Old Python version? :)
Seems to work in 3.0 (don't have 2.6 currently to check but IMO it's
fixed there as well).
It works for me with v3.0 as well, but not with
t, I would prefer to do something of the following kind:
func = file[-3:]
apply_func(func, file)
Can something of this kind be done in Python?
Klaus
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>
> A file extension is not necessarily 3 chars long.
No, of course not. But it is, if I choose to use only (self-made) file
endings that are 3 chars long. Anyway, it was just an example.
> handlers = {
> ".txt" : handle_txt,
> ".py" : handle_py,
> # etc
> }
>
That is exactly wha
> go to hell ;-), it is part of the language, it seems to match the
> aforementioned question.
Thats right. In fact, your code is the precise analogy of my Prolog
example in Python. Obviously, eval() and call() are both inherently
dangerous. They should never be used in programs that are used in
p
On Feb 9, 11:01 am, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> KlausNeuner, 09.02.2010 10:04:
>
> > my program is supposed to parse files that I have created myself and that
> > are on my laptop. It is not supposed to interact with anybody else
> > than me.
>
> Famous last words.
>
> Stefan
All right, I admit that e
On Feb 10, 12:55 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> KlausNeunera écrit :
>
>
>
> > All right, I admit that eval() is evil and should never be used.
>
> Can you tell the difference between your above statement and the following:
As already pointed out in my second post (though perhaps not
explicitly
> Or perhaps is it me that failed to re-read a bit more of the thread
> before answering - I obviously missed the irony (and made an a... of
> myself), sorry :-/
There is nothing to be sorry about. I am grateful to all participants
of this thread. I know a lot more about Python than before.
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Hello,
in order to have the Python-SQLite support available one has to
recompile Python. For the recompiliation to succeed a number of
'modules/libs' have to be present.
In the internet I found the following list
build-essential
libz-dev
libreadline-dev
libncursesw5-dev
libssl-dev
libgdbm-de
On 03/22/2017 06:34 PM, Thomas Nyberg wrote:
On 03/22/2017 12:42 PM, Klaus Jantzen wrote:
Hello,
in order to have the Python-SQLite support available one has to
recompile Python. For the recompiliation to succeed a number of
'modules/libs' have to
On 03/23/2017 12:23 AM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2017-03-22, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2017-03-22, Thomas Nyberg wrote:
On 03/22/2017 03:22 PM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
A simple table with a list of the library names, the debian package
names, and the rpm names would provide the information in a way th
Hi,
I need a Python NNTP module that is capable of doing "MODE STREAM" as
client and as server. Does anyone here know of such a module except
the twisted.protocols.nntp module?
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sides on whether
then-Attorney General John Ashcroft had the power under federal law in 2001 to
bar distribution of controlled drugs to assist suicides, regardless of state
law.
>>>
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> perl -e 'print "Hello, world\n"'
python -c 'print "Hello, world"'
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the rightmost) will be created if it does not exist. This
is recursive
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>>
>> What can I do?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Stefan
>
> Leave out the "0x" prefix and tell long() that you're using
> base 16:
>
>>>> long("", 16)
> 4294967295L
It's sufficient to tell long() th
BroLewis wrote:
> I have been trying for several weeks now to write a program that
> allows me to read the stdout of a process that I spawn and once
> I receive feedback, act appropriately.
Have you looked into the 'commands' module?
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Adriano Ferreira wrote:
> Many Python scripts I see start with the shebang line
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python
>
> What is the difference from using just
>
> #!python
#v+
$ ls -l /tmp/hello.py
-rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 38 2005-12-02 14:59 /tmp/hello.py
$ cat /tmp/hello.py
#
Adriano Ferreira skrev:
>> #v+
>>
>> $ ls -l /tmp/hello.py
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 38 2005-12-02 14:59 /tmp/hello.py
>> $ cat /tmp/hello.py
>> #! python
>> print 'Hello, world!'
>> # eof
>> $ /tmp/hello.py
>> b
Adriano Ferreira wrote:
> So that "#!/usr/bin/env python" is more portable than "#! python"
> and that's probably why it worked for me with cygwin/bash but not
> for Klaus on whatever platform he used.
/me is using bash on linux.
> I agree. Only a very str
Justin Ezequiel wrote:
> Try
>
> lambda_hrs = lambda x: (x/60,x%60)
Or
#v+
lambda_hrs = lambda x: divmod(x, 60)
#v-
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Falc wrote:
> So if you have any books you could reccomend me that would rock, I
> can't really afford a book so if online that would be excellent.
Have you looked into:
<http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide>
<http://python.org/doc/Intros.html>
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e for Python: <http://pysqlite.org/>.
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lmOS 5.2.1).
The .prc installs without any problems, and I can start the Python
interpreter, but nothing happens if I ring in a Python expression and
press return -- the prompt just "hangs" and never returns.
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h
#x27;s name:
>>> EM_SPACE = u'\N{EM SPACE}'
>>> fracture = myline.split(EM_SPACE)
?
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y:
(opts, args) = getopt.getopt(argv[1:], shortOpts, longOpts)
except getopt.error, msg:
die(msg)
# end try
# [...]
for (opt, arg) in opts:
# Handle all options
:
# end for
#v-
Additional, non-option, arguments will be in the "args" variable.
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Say, are floats implemented? Comparisons seem to work, but print'ing
doesn't:
#v+
>>> 1.0 > 0.5
True
>>> print 1.23
%.*g
>>>
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Tom skrev:
> newDirectory = str(sys.argv[1:])
Try
newDir = '/'.join(sys.argv[1:])
or
newDir = sys.argv[1]
or
for newDir in sys.argv[1:]:
:
or something along those lines, depending on how you wish to
interpret the commandline.
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ot;t"],
> ["c", "a", "t" ] ]
#v+
>>> t = [ "a", "b", "c", "n", "a", "a", "t", "t", "t" ]
>>> [t[i::3] for i in range(3)]
[['a', 'n', 't'], ['b', 'a', 't'], ['c', 'a', 't']]
>>>
#v-
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odepoint.keys()) + ');')
def dehtml(s):
return re.sub(
myrx,
lambda m: unichr(htmlentitydefs.name2codepoint[m.group(1)]),
s
)
# end def dehtml
if __name__ == '__main__':
import sys
print dehtml(sys.stdin.read()).encode('utf-8')
# end
Rares Vernica wrote:
> How does your code deal with ' like entities?
It doesn't, it deals with named entities only. But take a look
at Fredrik's example.
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r lists or dictionaries?
Lists have an index method:
#v+
>>> L = list(T)
>>> L.index('Three')
2
>>>
#v-
Dictionaries are unordered and hence indices don't make much sense.
Mvh,
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ters seems to be missing from the unicodedata
module (2477 missing characters when checking against the latest
database from unicode.org¹). Is this a deliberate omission?
Cheers,
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¹) http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt
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thon interpreter.
> in other words, you get whatever version that was used to create
> the Unicode data set in your Python distribution.
I see.
> iirc, 2.4 uses Unicode 3.2, and 2.5 uses Unicode 4.1. to update,
> use the tools under Tools/unicode.
Thanks for the hint.
Mvh,
gt; import re
>>> re.findall(r'\d+', 'Total size: 173233 (371587)')
['173233', '371587']
>>>
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Lazy Lad wrote:
> Is there a blog application source available in Python?
Several. Did you try Google before you posted your question? The search
term "python blog" has <http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBlogSoftware>
within the first 10 hits.
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Grant Edwards wrote:
> Find an NNTP server and read it as a newsgroup.
Or Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> if histogram.has_key(s):
> histogram[s] += 1
> else:
> histogram[s] = 1
I wonder if
histogram[s] = histogram.get(s, 0) + 1
would be more efficient...
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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> note that DSU is built into Python these days:
>
> L.sort(key=transform)
Sweet, thanks for the hint.
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Pekka Karjalainen wrote:
> You can omit the call to math.sqrt if you test this instead.
>
> y*y > x
>
> in place of if y > maxfact: .
Or use
sqrt = lambda x: x ** .5
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o escaping was done.
Using "cd '%s' ; unzip '%s'" as your formatting string should work.
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ody method
The 'linebreaks' are probably '\r\n' pairs, so you could do a
buf.replace('\r\n', '\n')
to convert all such pairs to single LFs (buf being the buffer or
string that holds the text with 'linebreaks').
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Rweth wrote:
>for aline in buf:
> bufHeal.append(aline.replace('\r\n', '\n'))
What does one single aline look like?
> s.body(id,afile)
Does the 'afile' contain a filename or a filepointer?
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Rweth wrote:
> so afile contains a filename.
> One single aline looks like so:
>''
Beats me where those empty lines come from, it doesn't seem to
happen in nntplib.
Does the same thing happen if you pass .body() a filepointer?
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it does not exist. This is
recursive.
#v-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I tried to fix this by changing the locale back to "English"
> before creating cookies and that works on Windows but not for
> Linux. If I use "en_EN.ISO8859-1" it works on Linux but not
> on Windows.
How about setting locale to &quo
Mage wrote:
> I tried to write a proxy script for "psql" command. I need some
> query log. I failed to read from the file object.
The psql command is probably linked against readline; did you look
in the ~/.psql_history file?
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Michele Ferretti wrote:
> ok, sorry, but subject is very explicit!
Still, it's insufficient for those of us who doesn't know what WordPress
is, and it's a waste of time for those of us who don't speak Italian.
C'mon, pal, you can do much better than that!
Michele Ferretti wrote:
> ok, sorry, but subject is very explicit!
Still, it's insufficient for those of us who don't know what WordPress
is, and it's a waste of time for those of us who don't speak Italian.
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dcrespo wrote:
> Does PySQLite run on Linux?
There are specific python modules for SQLite on Linux.
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2, 3, 23, 4, 24, 5, 25, .
If the order is unimportant you could use:
#v+
>>> tuple(set(range(10)) | set(range(20,30)))
(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
>>>
#v-
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ileLines0]
[fileName1][fileLines1]
...
[fileNameN][fileLinesN]
#v-
In that case try something like:
#v+
>>> files_and_lines = []
>>> for name in file_names:
>>> files_and_lines.append([name, open(name, 'r').readlines()])
>>> print
Rotary wrote:
> I want to say something like that: if msg is empty ...then do
> something. So how can i figure that msg is empty string (no
> character, msg = '').
#v+
if not msg:
print 'msg is empty'
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ÒÊÃÉɽÈË wrote:
> thanks
Did you try Google:
<http://www.google.com/search?q=python+regular+expressions>
First hit is:
<http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/regex/>
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HMS Surprise wrote:
> Have I misused .extend?
The .extend() method expects an iterable, try .append() instead.
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Grant Edwards wrote:
> Maybe I've got a beter news server, but I don't see much
> spam at all in c.l.p.
Neither do I.
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Raymond Hettinger wrote:
> To make the solutions equi-probable, a simple approach is to
> recursively enumerate all possibilities and then choose one
> of them with random.choice().
Or create a list using the biased method, then use .shuffle() to
return another permutation.
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e, urllib; print re.findall("Your IP: (.+?)",
urllib.urlopen("http://myip.dk/";).read())[0]'
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urlopen("http://myip.dk/";).read())[0]'
217.157.1.202
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $
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EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ python -c 'import socket; print
socket.gethostbyaddr(socket.gethostname())'
('zdani.szn.dk', [], ['2001:1448:89::1'])
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $
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Colin J. Williams wrote:
> Your one-liner doesn't work for me, with Windows XP, but the
> following does, within Python.
Could it be due to shell-escaping issues? I don't know anything
about Windows...
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Lad skrev:
> How can I find out the date/time difference ( in days) of such
> two fields?
Did you try to subtract one value from the other?
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Nico Grubert skrev:
> you could do this:
>
> >>> a = datetime.datetime(2006, 5, 24, 16, 1, 26)
> >>> b = datetime.datetime(2006, 5, 20, 12, 1, 26)
> >>> a-b
> datetime.timedelta(4)
> # 4 days
Or
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>>> print (a-b).days
4
>>>
A simple algorithm is sufficient
> for passwords
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>>> import sha
>>> sha.sha('userid,fullname,passwword,dateofbith').digest().encode('base64')[:10]
'q0nCDQ1YdL'
>>>
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15))
>>> b
set([5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14])
>>> a.difference(b)
set([0, 1, 2, 3, 4])
>>> a-b
set([0, 1, 2, 3, 4])
>>> list(a-b)
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4]
>>>
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