Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality

2009-04-26 Thread Vsevolod
g possibility. Surely, I'm not so experienced in Python as in Lisp (in which I'd definitely be able to solve this problem by extending the library), but I don't see an obvious solution, which will stay inside the language: I have to either use the shell or stick to the limited set of provided options and skew my program design to work with them. Any other suggestions? P.S. Btw the other issue with CL's mismatch is that it provides a possibility to use any test and keyword extraction function. Best regards, Vsevolod Dyomkin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-26 Thread Vsevolod
Java > has mostly given up on thread-killing. The only way to kill threads > safely is to have them terminate themselves. Your other option is to use > multiple processes. Well, somehow, in Lisp it's not a problem. :) Cheers, Vsevolod -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-27 Thread Vsevolod
On Apr 27, 3:20 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: > In article > <793a5176-ec2d-4ffd-b1e7-762077733...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, > > Vsevolod wrote: > >On Apr 26, 6:28 pm, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: > > >> The problem is that thread-killing

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-27 Thread Vsevolod
On Apr 27, 2:17 pm, "Richard Brodie" wrote: > "Vsevolod" wrote in message > > news:42cebb2b-0361-416c-8932-9371da50a...@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > There's a common unification library -- bordeaux-threads -- > > that abstracts away im

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-27 Thread Vsevolod
how BDFLs should behave :) Yet there was no response to my point, that the original example was not realistically depicting the Lisp world, while more characteristic of the Python one. Best regards, Vsevolod -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-27 Thread Vsevolod
dge or experience, not the language's features. While conceptual problems seem futile to discuss. There's another saying: "when in Rome do as the Romans do" Best regards, Vsevolod -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-27 Thread Vsevolod
or the programmer himself. AFAIK, Python community is on former side, while Lisp one -- on the later. As always, there's no right answer. Best regards, Vsevolod -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Thread-killing, round 666 (was Re: Lisp mentality vs. Python mentality)

2009-04-29 Thread Vsevolod
On Apr 28, 11:49 pm, David Bolen wrote: > Vsevolod writes: > > On Apr 27, 11:31 pm, David Bolen wrote: > >> I'm curious - do you know what happens if threading is implemented as > >> a native OS thread and it's stuck in an I/O operation that is blocke

Re: Question about PyPI and 'easy_install'

2008-02-26 Thread Vsevolod Balashov
#x27;egg_info': -from ez_setup import use_setuptools -use_setuptools() -from distutils.core import setup +from ez_setup import use_setuptools +from setuptools import setup -name = 'pyTenjin' +name = 'Tenjin' version = '0.6.1' author = 'makoto kuwat