On 10/4/17 11:22 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
The A and E in the word "are" are not vowels, since they are silent.
The A is clearly not silent, unless you have some strange pronunciation.
The fact that are is pronounced just like the NAME of the letter R
doesn't mean it is silent.
Compare the
On 10/8/17 11:58 AM, Xristos Xristoou wrote:
Τη Κυριακή, 8 Οκτωβρίου 2017 - 6:35:28 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης MRAB έγραψε:
On 2017-10-08 15:27, Xristos Xristoou wrote:
Do you mean "long reload"?
user can put some numbers in my html template and i take that numbers and i sue
it in specific math
On 10/8/17 4:46 PM, Xristos Xristoou wrote:
Τη Κυριακή, 8 Οκτωβρίου 2017 - 10:48:38 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Richard Damon
έγραψε:
On 10/8/17 11:58 AM, Xristos Xristoou wrote:
Τη Κυριακή, 8 Οκτωβρίου 2017 - 6:35:28 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης MRAB έγραψε:
On 2017-10-08 15:27, Xristos Xristoou wrote
On 10/24/17 6:30 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:09 am, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2017-10-23 04:21, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 02:29 pm, Stefan Ram wrote:
If the probability of certain codes (either single codes, or sequences of
codes) are non-equal, then yo
get a puppy."
Why does one path print and the other return, those are different actions.
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es 0x80 and above as being acceptable in identifiers, with
the documented warning that the current implementation allows some forms
that may generate errors in the future. If enough interest is shown,
adding better classification shouldn't be that hard.
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On 11/23/17 4:31 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/23/17 2:46 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
On 23/11/17 19:42, Mikhail V wrote:
I mean for a real practical situation - for example for an average
Python programmer or someone who seeks a
On 11/23/17 5:45 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
On 23/11/17 23:15, Richard Damon wrote:
My thought is you define a legal only those Unicode characters that via
the defined classification would be normally legal, but perhaps the
first implementation doesn't diagnose many of the illegal combina
e sensitive, we already have the
issue with the distinction between space and tab, which isn't normally
obvious in many text editors (Though I suspect many Python programmers
have their editors configured to largely avoid the issue).
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he new mapping, and how to touch type on
that keyboard. Generally you can also get Keyboard Stickers to place on
your keyboard if you are a hunt and pecker typist.
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make your code harder to read, if your font doesn't make enough
of a distinction between those characters
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On 11/24/17 5:46 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 11/24/17 5:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
Have you tried using U+2010 (HYPHEN) ‐. It is in the class
XID_CONTINUE (in fact it is in XID_START) so should be available.
U+2010 isn't allowed in Python 3 identifiers.
The rules for identifiers are
s inside a triple quoted string, so this is just part of a
multi-line string.
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ch of the 'facts'
that I learned in school, there has been a lot of use for the basic
methods that were learned while processing those facts in school.
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On 1/7/18 5:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 07 January 2018 16:22:57 Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Am 05.01.18 um 22:15 schrieb Michael Torrie:
Please, no! We don't need emoji in this group. Fortunately the vast
majority of posters use plain text (as is the etiquette) and so we
don't have
On 1/7/18 7:07 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 07 January 2018 18:25:52 Random832 wrote:
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018, at 17:47, Richard Damon wrote:
But it also says:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Which is incorrect, as the message is actually 8bit encoded (since
the Emoji aren't in the
p1, p2
with a magnitude of
|p1-p0| * |p2-p1| * sin(angle between line (p1,p0) and (p2,p1))
The distance you want is |p1-p0| * sin(angle between line (p1,p0) and
(p2,p1))
With a bit of thought you should be able to get the answer.
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mail ISP likely even supports some form of Web Mail Client.
If they are blocking these, but not Google Groups, there is a major
disconnect in the rules.
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On 2/9/18 6:19 PM, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote:
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote:
codew...@gmail.com wrote
like 1 + '2' and get 3, as string values will naturally convert
themselves to numbers, Python won't do this. Yes Python will freely
convert between numeric types, but I wouldn't say that Python claims to
be a language that focuses on numerics.
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loyee"
I think you're agreeing with Steven. Static data types are not relevant
for finding most of the bugs a program can have.
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ning'
and provides its own meaning to the statement. You really want to run
with pedantic-errors enabled to get GCC to reject code with constraint
violations.
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> On Feb 20, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:53 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> In C++ I can do something like:
>>
>> SomeClass MyVar;
>>
>> And after that the kind of possible assignments to MyVar are constraint. It
>> makes the runtime throw an error wh
ntly is
'now'. How big this 'timestop' needs to be depends on how wide the
requirement is for temporal consistency. It might be just within a
function, it might be for the full duration of the program run, 'now'
might even be a parameter to the program, i.e. as of last
concept). You would also need to
keep the current garbage collection, to handle the existing cases of
circular references (I disagree with the original complaint that these
are always 'errors', if you know you have garbage collection, the
allowance of cycles knowing they will still g
ificant overhead added (just a check for this method).
Objects with these methods would still be subject to being cleaned up
with garbage collection in the case they were kept alive via a cycle,
having the cycle just makes it so that you don't get the immediate
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whole program so OS cleanup handles it, or the are so fine grained that
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On 3/3/18 12:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 4:37 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/3/18 11:33 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 03/03/2018 09:02 AM, ooom...@gmail.com wrote:
I can assure you that RAII does what it says on the tin and is relied on
in
many critical systems to
On 3/3/18 1:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:22 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/3/18 12:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 4:37 AM, Richard Damon
wrote:
On 3/3/18 11:33 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 03/03/2018 09:02 AM, ooom...@gmail.com wrote:
I can
On 2/28/18 3:51 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:42:02 UTC+1, Paul Rubin wrote:
Ron Aaron posted the below url on comp.lang.forth. It points to what I
thought was a cute problem, along with his solution in his Forth dialect
8th:
On 3/3/18 6:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2018 12:37:08 -0500, Richard Damon wrote:
With RAII and immediate destruction on end of scope, we can automate the
release, without it and you need a lot of explicit code to manage these
resources.
Not so much.
On 3/3/18 6:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:01:43 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 9:19 AM, Richard Damon
wrote:
One idea does come to mind though, would it be reasonable, and somewhat
Pythonic, for a class to define member functions like __ref_
On 3/3/18 9:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Ooomzay wrote:
On Saturday, 3 March 2018 17:44:08 UTC, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 4:37 AM, Richard Damon
Yes, stack allocated object in C++ have a nice lifetime to allow RAII to
work, but it doesn&#
eference cycle. This
does limit what you can do with this sort of object, but that normally
isn't a problem.
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e
programmer, not the language) to use these RAII objects in ways that
don't create cycles (or maybe that the program knows of the cycles and
makes the effort to break them when it is important). So perhaps it can
be said that cycle that involve major resource RAII objects should exist.
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python found), you
should be able to simpify that to
python -m pip install --upgrade
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t the material is surely under Copyright, so be careful what you do with it.
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thing to do with understanding how to grab podcasts. The system is
working very well for that.
Footnote:
“What rhymes with orange?”
“No, it doesn’t..”
-Original Message-
From: Richard Damon On Behalf Of Richard Damon
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 11:37 PM
To: Steve GS
Subject: Re: Autom
. It says that
often a month later than a given day isn't the same day of the month,
but does make some operations less surprising. (This is hard to do to a
date expressed as year-month-day, but trivial in some other formats like
a timestamp.)
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erate many warnings, either you have warnings
enabled that you don't care about, or your code is doing things you have
told the complier you shouldn't do.
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On 8/6/22 8:12 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 at 22:08, Richard Damon wrote:
On 8/6/22 12:01 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 at 13:54, Dan Stromberg wrote:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 12:54 PM Grant Edwards
wrote:
In C, this doesn't do what it looks like
to the current x.y object.
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apply, but the new test criteria would
need to be computed based on computing the exected results and expected
variation in that result, largely based on various cross correlations of
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> On Jan 3, 2023, at 10:38 AM, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote:
> Hello,
>
> this posting isn't about asking for a technical solution. My intention
> is to understand the design decision Python's core developers made in
> context of that topic.
>
> The logging module write everything to stderr no mat
> On Jan 4, 2023, at 8:56 AM, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> first I have to say that in my current and fresh humble opinion the
> often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should
> affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on
> "stdout". That is
you phrase things does give me that nagging
feeling that you still might be just a bit off.
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Bytes if the data is
all Latin-1, as a sequence of 16-bit words if the data all fits on th
BMP, and a sequence of 32 bit words if it has a value outside the BMP.
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ode Code Points, and you can define
string literals of that type with
U"string" notation.
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to the attention of the IEEE. I
would like to know their response to it.
That is why they have developed the Decimal Floating point format, to
handle people with those sorts of problems.
They just aren't common enough for many things to have adopted the use
of it.
Stephen Tucker.
-
ld be to use the concept of an
"abstract base" which allows the base to indicate that a derived class
needs to define certain abstract methods, (If you need that sort of
support, not defining a method might just mean the subclass doesn't
support some optional behavior defi
type, and if so, converts its value to that type and
does the operation.
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probably best to not actually allow.
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How are you trying to “Open” python? If you get that option screen, that sounds
like you are trying to run the installer again.
Knowing your Operating System would be very helpful. Python is normally run
from the command line, or since you have the PyCharm IDE, it can run python on
the program
ds a lot on how everything was installed and how the path was
setup. You will at least need the version 2 and version 3 pythons to be
given different names, like python3 and then start the python 3 scripts
with python3 my_script.py
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creating it each time. Simplest is
probably to link the Label to a StringVar instead of a fixed text and
updating the variable to change the text. You can also (I believe) go
into the Label and change the text it has with a configuration call.
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herit or has been specifically given a different value.
General convention is that modules will use their name as the name of
their logger, as that is generally unique.
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e job. I was swearing when fighting with it with padding lol.
>
> --
> Thanks
One thing to remember is that span is sort of like range, range(3) is
[0, 1, 2]
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r 'undefined behavior'.
It is reasonable to skip the input assert if it becomes too expensive
for benefit it provides, or if something else will catch the error. This
likely actually applies to a lot of Python code, so it may seem that it
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On 3/12/21 8:58 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 12:11 AM Richard Damon
> wrote:
>> On 3/12/21 12:31 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:53 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>>> For me, try/except is for when something might rea
built in title() function is basically an intentionally 80%
solution. It handles the simple cases simply, and if you might have the
more complicated cases, you have to handle that yourself because to
specify what the 'right' answer would be is basically impossible to do
in general (becaus
amin
One important thing to remember is that there ARE a few characters that
are themselves 'Title case', so we can't live with just upper and lower.
These all are 'digraphs', i.e. look like two letters, but this glyph
does act as a single character for many purposes. One
Help on method_descriptor:
>
> title(self, /)
> Return a version of the string where each word is titlecased.
>
> More specifically, words start with uppercased characters and all
> remaining
> cased characters have lower case.
>
> '\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER DZ}', '\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER DZ}' and
> '\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH SMALL LETTER Z}' are all digraphs, so
> is it correct to say that .title() uppercases the first character?
> Kind of.
I think the clarification calling them upper cased characters is close
enough considering that there are only 31 title cased characters, all
digraphs.
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On 3/21/21 10:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:26 PM Richard Damon
> wrote:
>> On 3/21/21 7:31 PM, MRAB wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-21 22:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 9:04 AM Grant Edwards
>>>> wrot
I am not positive that its description
exactly matches what .title() produces, but it close, and the way it is
written, "Python's".istitle() is False, as the s at the end needs to be
uppper case to satisfy as ' is uncased, so the next cased character must
be upper case.
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logic to them - the movement of A determines that of B which
> determines that of C which determines that of D which finally also
> affects the movement of A.
>
> Any thoughts or wise ideas?
>
> Daniele
If you keep track of the positions as a floating point number, the
precision will be more than you could actually measure it.
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On 4/1/21 6:41 PM, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
> On 2021-04-01 at 18:10:46 -0400,
> Richard Damon wrote:
>
>> On 4/1/21 5:47 PM, D.M. Procida wrote:
>>> D.M. Procida wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone, I've created <https://github.com/
ssions to the group, emailed to it, and people would need to log
into the email account on that computer to approve all the posts, or a
robot could perhaps be setup to auto-approve most based on some rules.
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On 5/5/21 10:44 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote:
>>>> What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willin
On 5/6/21 6:12 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 5/5/21 10:44 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> As someone with a long usenet background, converting the existing gr
Usenet being a distributed system, doesn't support this model. Either
anybody can inject a message from wherever they are, no all messages are
sent to be reviewed, the unmoderated and moderated is a VERY sharp line.
In Usenet terms, lists like this would be described as loosely
robo-moderated. And
On 5/6/21 9:44 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 5/6/21 6:12 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
>>> I think you're fundamentally missing the point that the newsgroup is
>>> *already gatewayed to the mailing li
On 5/8/21 10:49 AM, mishrasamir2...@gmail.com wrote:
>Sir/madam,
>
>Please provide me the latest version of pycharm quickly.
>
>Samir Mishra
You just need to go to the jetbrains web site and it is available there.
They even have a free version there.
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ms be
requiring the parameters for the __init__ call of the base class too, even
though there is a call to it through the super().__init__()
Is this expected?
Can derived classes not provide values for parameters to construct the base
classes?
Is there something funny because I am making the call from a member of that
base class?
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On 5/20/21 3:24 AM, Peter Otten wrote:
> On 20/05/2021 06:00, Richard Damon wrote:
>
>> class GedcomHead(Gedcom0Tag):
>> """GEDCOM 0 HEAD tag"""
>> def ___init___(self, *, parent):
>
> An __init__ with three underscores; you m
On 5/20/21 1:58 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:02 PM Richard Damon
> wrote:
>> Given the following definition of classes, I am getting an unexpected
>> error of :
>>
>> TypeError: __init__() missing 2 required keyword-only arguments:
>
ou mutate the object the parameter was bound to, the calling
function will see the changed object. (This requires the object to BE
mutateable, like a list, not an int)
If you rebind that parameter to a new object, the calling function
doesn't see the change, as its name wasn't rebound.
ng sure that the rule set covers
every value in the data array, and never gives one input value two
different y values.
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By the rules of Unicode, that character, if not the very first character of the
file, should be treated as a “zero-width non-breaking space”, it is NOT a BOM
character there.
It’s presence in the files is almost certainly an error, and being caused by
broken software or software processing file
>
> Is there an elegant way to do this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
>
Look at the read() member function to supply the file name to read. Then
in the config object there will be sections for each section in the
config file. No need for any of these to be 'options'
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On 8/27/21 3:37 AM, Loris Bennett wrote:
> Richard Damon writes:
>
>> On 8/26/21 6:01 AM, Loris Bennett wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When using configargparse, it seems that if a value is to be read from a
>>> config file, it also has to be defined as a
On 9/4/21 9:40 AM, Hope Rouselle wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:58 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>>>
>>> Hope Rouselle writes:
>>>
Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing needed to be
solved or to be figured out. Just bringing up conversation.
> On Sep 5, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> On 2021-09-04 10:01:23 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 9/4/21 9:40 AM, Hope Rouselle wrote:
>>> Hm, I think I see what you're saying. You're saying multiplication and
>>> division in
ssy to exactly the order you do things, the
cases where the difference is intended is likely fairly small.
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hat don't need
an installer.
Likely, just copying an EXE file from an outside source may still be
against the rules (and needs approval), but some think if they can do it
and no one complains, it must be ok. On the other hand, they may have
given approval, knowing the source.
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place operators that if a type doesn't support
the inplace operator, it is automatically converted into the equivalent
assignment with the binary operator?
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erson without that level of care and effort.
There are similar package available for many languages, including C/C++
to let mere mortals get efficient numerical processing.
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On 2/25/22 2:47 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 at 05:49, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/25/22 4:12 AM, BELAHCENE Abdelkader wrote:
Hi,
a lot of people think that C (or C++) is faster than python, yes I agree,
but I think that's not the case with numpy, I believe numpy is faster
r isn't the
sort of program that makes sense to make a desktop icon for, as it is a
command line utility.
Perhaps making an icon for IDLE, if it has also been installed, but then
the issue becomes would people recognize 'IDLE' as 'Python' to click on.
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string
is probably the better way to define it, and take the cost of the
conversion as part of the cost to be pretty.
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at at least for today,
Unicode is the best solution for storing arbitrary text, and forcing
that change down to the fundamental level.
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On 3/25/18 8:32 AM, bartc wrote:
On 25/03/2018 02:47, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:05:56 +0100, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
[...]
yes, good idea
Not if you want to avoid that string to int conversion (as you stated).
That is still there, but in addition you now split the string
On 3/25/18 9:37 PM, bartc wrote:
On 26/03/2018 00:27, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:32 AM, bartc wrote:
Using CPython on my machine, doing a string to int conversion that
specific number took 200 times as long as doing a normal assignment.
That conversion took 4 microseconds.
Not
On 3/26/18 6:45 AM, bartc wrote:
On 26/03/2018 03:35, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/25/18 9:37 PM, bartc wrote:
So the overhead /can/ be substantial, and /can/ be significant
compared with doing bignum calculations.
Of course, once initialised, C might be used a hundred times, then
the
the execution time saves you
0.995%, not normally worth it unless your program is currently running
at 100.004% of the allowed (or acceptable) timing, if acceptable timing
can even be defined that precisely.
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On 3/26/18 8:46 AM, bartc wrote:
On 26/03/2018 13:30, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/26/18 6:31 AM, bartc wrote:
The purpose was to establish how such int("...") conversions compare
in overheads with actual arithmetic with the resulting numbers.
Of course if this was done in C with
On 3/30/18 6:41 AM, bartc wrote:
On 27/03/2018 04:49, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/26/18 8:46 AM, bartc wrote:
Hence my testing with CPython 3.6, rather than on something like
PyPy which can give results that are meaningless. Because, for
example, real code doesn't repeatedly execute the
sing can better use up, so even processor usage
can be improved in many cases. In most cases I am familiar with, the
type of asynchronous programming you are talking about is to move I/O
bound operations into a second execution path, allowing your main path
to focus on keeping the CPU busy.
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inting to (the string 'a1b2') and then obj was set to
point to that new object, and the old string object became unreferenced
and will at some point be cleaned up (if between the two assignment you
did a obj2 = obj, then obj2 would continue to point to that original
string object).
needed'. Here Interspersed/Bottom posting works better (Interspersed if
responding point by point, Bottom if single point or responding to the
message en-total.)
Mailing list, Usenet, Forums and the like all tend to fall into the
second category, but people more used to the more private typ
On 5/18/18 10:38 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 12:30 AM, Richard Damon
> wrote:
>> I would divide the two communities/cultures differently. Top Posting is
>> reasonable, effective and common in an environment where the primary
>> recipients of the m
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