h "b"? Don't leave us guessing, we might guess wrong.
but the data saving in wrong format
Really? It looks to me like you are getting exactly what you asked for.
What format were you expecting? What are you getting that doesn't
belong. I suspect that you don't
ay of iterating through entries, surely?
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don't, you will wish you had) and
read the file back.
Is there any other option for getting interactive multi line input from user.
input() and patience :-)
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are, without fail, embarrassed when I turn on the compiler warning flags.
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all the time. Moreover,
it's very hard to notice *in your own code* because you read what you
meant, not what you wrote. Ask any author about proof-reading, and
they'll tell you to get someone else to do it.
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paste the traceback (don't retype it, and
definitely don't send us screenshots; attachments aren't allowed on the
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on't have types, or indeed anything much. They are just
names, that's all. Every time you use the name, you get the object the
name references (or "is bound to" as some people prefer to phrase it).
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uages is
that to do it well, you need to understand both languages *and both
cultures.* The same principle probably applies to computer languages as
well; how often have we collectively complained about people trying to
write (say) FORTRAN in Python?
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nderstand what
we're saying... (Disclaimer: I'm a Brit, so I'm poking fun at myself
here :-))
It's not actually the worst thing you could do. People speaking NICE
AND LOUDLY also tend to speak more slowly and with better diction, both
of which make life simpler for your poor old
s,
>>
>> did you send a log file attached?
>
> yes
I'm afraid it didn't make it to us. The mailing list strips off
attachments. Please copy and paste the error into your message, and
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from that, but at its simplest, you could convert that
to a list:
print(list(sw_report))
Be aware that if you do this, you will exhaust the generator and won't
be able to use it anywhere else.
>>> def foo():
... yield 1
... yield 2
... yield 3
...
>>>
polite not to top post on this mailing list.
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On 08/06/18 12:41, Darren Pardoe wrote:
On Friday, 8 June 2018 12:24:26 UTC+1, Rhodri James wrote:
On 08/06/18 09:00, Paul St George wrote:
PS: it's generally considered polite not to top post on this mailing list.
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I have always top posted
")
parser.add_argument("--size")
line = '06/12/2018 11:13:23 AM python toolname.py --struct=data_block
--log_file=/var/1000111/test18.log --addr=None --loc=0 --mirror=10
--path=/tmp/data_block.txt --size=8'
args = parser.parse_args(line.split())
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oes anyone else have any?
Sometimes I "mangle()" things, but I'm usually boring.
"do_something()", "do_something_else()" or (if I'm feeling particularly
nostalgic and helpless) "do_something_muttley()".
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x27;t take advantage of the tools. They're just tools, and they may
be a help for programmers who can't be bothered to figure things out for
themselves, but they aren't required by any means.
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t("What about me?");'''\
print("And me? Where endeth");"""\
print('the assertion?');\''''
Chris, that's not code...
That's a syntactical representation of some random flea circus.
Fortunately, my Python interpreter i
lude the better.
Cheers,
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ntains
things that might be useful as a module, use the "if __name__ ==
'__main__'" trick. Otherwise it can be more of a distraction than a
help. I'm not a big fan of "main()" functions myself; creating a
function which will be called exactly once seems
counted on the fingers of one hand.
Honestly, I don't know why anybody bothers responding to him. Boredom,
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On 13/07/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 07/13/2018 11:52 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
I should point out that the number of people I have killfiled in all my
> Internet dealings can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
Your left one? *
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On 16/07/18 15:20, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 07/16/2018 06:22 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
On 13/07/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 07/13/2018 11:52 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
I should point out that the number of people I have killfiled in all my
> Internet dealings can be counted on the fing
On 16/07/18 17:22, Chris Angelico wrote:
What characters does it use? Mostly Latin letters?
Basic Latin plus U+0174 (LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH CIRCUMFLEX) through
to U+0177 (LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH CIRCUMFLEX) I think.
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also a question of what's required to
correctly notate modern Welsh. Back in the late 1980s Acorn asked four
Welsh-language scholars that question. They got four different answers :-(
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Could you explain? I've only ever had problems with strings *not* being
Unicode, and I really don't understand what has you so hot under the collar.
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On 16/07/18 19:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'm simply not seeing the advantage of:
from __future__ import no_unicode
print("Hello World!") # stand in for any string handling on ASCII
Sure this should be "from __past__ import no_unicode"?
gd&
On 16/07/18 18:38, Rhodri James wrote:
Actually having an option of turning off Unicode *does* make it harder
to use, because you end up coming across programs that have Unicode and
surprise you when they misbehave. And yes I saw that 90% of your
programs aren't intended to get out int
nd say
"That's a gnu," people are likely to stop taking you seriously.
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pulled the "storming
off in a huff rather than answer a question anyone actually asked"
defence, so we can go back to debating about important things like how
to spell assignment expressions.
Oh wait... :-)
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even when that means making sure you don't split characters
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On 17/07/18 02:52, Python wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 08:56:11PM +0100, Rhodri James wrote:
The problem everyone is having with you, Marko, is that you are
using the terminology incorrectly. [...] When you call UTF-32 a
variable-width encoding, you are incorrect.
But please don't ove
On 17/07/18 13:41, Rhodri James wrote:
On 17/07/18 02:52, Python wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 08:56:11PM +0100, Rhodri James wrote:
The problem everyone is having with you, Marko, is that you are
using the terminology incorrectly. [...] When you call UTF-32 a
variable-width encoding, you are
acters, but that's just a detail.
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On 17/07/18 14:14, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rhodri James :
On 17/07/18 02:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Ah yes, the unfortunate design error that iterating over byte-strings
returns ints rather than single-byte strings.
That decision seemed to make sense at the time it was made, but turned
o
postalveolar_affricate>
Is there a difference between these expressions:
rye train
right rain
right train
Again, yes. Very much so this time.
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is nothing particularly
odd about this list that I can think of that might cause problems like that.
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d NLTK may be trying to do something more
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;t think of any use cases I actually want off-hand. The sorts of
things I might apply new operators to are various bits of byte buffer
mangling, and most of those feel more pythonic as iterative processes.
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your machine have a network interface called "enp6s0f0"?
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#x27;s a
bit marginal in your case. I'm not that seasoned in object-oriented
design either, but my yardstick would be how much common code does it
eliminate? It's a very subjective measure, but basically it's the same
subjective measure as for pulling any common code into a se
ns a colon it may be what you want.
"split()" the line at the colon and look at the first half. Once you
have "strip()"ed off the spaces at the beginning and the end, is it
"status"? If so, you've got your pass and the VALUE you want is in the
second half.
I hope that helps.
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ist of aliases, and a list of IP
addresses,
for a host. The host argument is a string giving a host name or IP
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debugger into. Would that be sufficient?
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I have been unimpressed with the moderation team for some weeks now, but
this is just not acceptable.
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catch
up, and usually bring some new friends with them.
Changing indent sizes is falling into the same trap as changing
terminology, I'm afraid. It's an obvious, well-intentioned thought, but
it won't actually change anything for the better. Thank you for
bringing it up, th
their defense is
hardly blameless behaviour, by the way.) Flatly, I do not see what you
see. I'm open to persuasion, but I'll say up front I don't expect you
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sonable to test, and hope that later
QA and pre-release testing (which should involve running those
hard-to-set-up tests) will catch anything that slips through.
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On 08/10/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 10/08/2018 07:43 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
I appreciate that the moderators are volunteers, but they have
official power on this list. Being volunteers doesn't mean that they
can't get it wrong, or that we shouldn't call them on it wh
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On 09/10/18 12:12, Rhodri James wrote:
On 08/10/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote:
Banning Rick Johnson:
Hopefully no explanation needed [2].
Explanation/justification needed, but given :-) Again, I killfiled Rick
ages ago, and I agree his language does justify banning
On 10/10/18 19:14, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 10/10/2018 11:07 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
Now I've had a chance to go back through the archive (it's been that
kind of day at work), I'm going to have to recant. I can't find
anything that Rick wrote in the week or two before the
On 10/10/18 17:24, jfine2...@gmail.com wrote:
Rhodri James wrote:
Robin Becker wrote:
I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling
check as this quote shows
[Paul Romer's blog]
"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit
writing idiomatic Python, never mind efficient Python (arguably I still
don't, but as Rob says, who cares?). Don't worry about it; at some
point you will discover that the "obvious" Python you are writing looks
a lot like the code you are looking at now and thinking "that
tabs are.
If you used two-space tab stops and I used (the normal :-) eight,
comfortable indentations for you would rapidly become uncomfortably
large indentations for me. I'd care about that. I'd also care if you
used spaces to make sub-tab stop adjustments to line up appropr
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On 15/10/18 12:28, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rhodri James :
On 15/10/18 05:45, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
The two-space indentation is the out-of-the-box default for emacs.
Ahem. It's the default for certain C styles. It's not even the default
for C-mode itself, which is 4.
You must be
On 15/10/18 16:41, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rhodri James :
On 15/10/18 12:28, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Try running
emacs -q abc.c
and observe the indentation depth.
"""User Option: c-basic-offset
This style variable holds the basic offset between indentation
level
d you copy the error text (preferably
cut-and-paste the whole thing rather than retyping!)? The more
information you can give us, the better the advice will be from the
people who actually understand pip :-)
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-externally-managed --compile" failed with error code 1 in
/tmp/pip-install-kiqba_j_/gmpy2/
"
A little googling suggests that you need to install the libgmp3-dev package:
$ sudo apt install libgmp3-dev
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 16:46, Rhodri James wrote:
On 01/11/2018 14:40, jacob m wrot
Jacob, please reply to the list, not to me personally. As I said, I
have no idea about gmpy2 or pip, I just know how to google.
On 01/11/2018 23:28, jacob m wrote:
I tried to install libgmp3-dev, but it didn't solved my problem
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 18:44, Rhodri James wrote:
Replyi
ed off by the mailing
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ut' element of the pipeline. You have used double quotes
in a double quoted string without escaping them. As a result, the
interpreter thinks you are trying to assign the string literal " -f3" to
the string literal "blkid -o export %s | grep 'Type' | cut -d"
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On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:42 AM Rhodri James wrote:
On 06/11/2018 09:25, Thomas Jollans wrote:
On 2018-11-06 10:05, Varshit Jain wrote:
Hi Python Suppo
4
NIFunkloch 1da7d068-4548-4446-bf88-a440e49db1b1 wifi --
[snipped for brevity]
That looks conveniently aligned. Can't you just slice each line to get
the entries you are after?
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Attempting to define value here would be at best a massive
distraction from the concepts the documentation is trying to get across.
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run shell
commands and parse their output. Have you looked to see if there are
existing Python modules that will Just Do The Work for you and avoid all
this faffing about?
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ert, but others here may be able to help if you give them
enough information.
(The temptation to say "Installing Linux will fix most of your problems"
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On 23/01/2019 22:29, paulmatth...@gmail.com wrote:
You may be using the sklearn package incorrectly; you'll
have to read the (apparently quite prolific) documentation yourself,
I've never used it.
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So why would you try to answer it? I have the same
ird it's the
"Reply List" button.
Sorry I can't help you on your initial problem
Likewise :-(
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the common code in a
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be at odds with the
broad intent.
You're going to have to expand on this somewhat, because at the moment I
100% disagree with you. I would much rather be explicit about the code
that a context manager applies to than have it magically add itself to
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vices, it's listing platforms. Linux could be
running on an ARM, an x64 chip, or probably a few other chips too. What
*specifically* do you want, and why?
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uot;. In
this case, it really isn't helpful.
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ht in your example, particularly as revised here, the
context managers showed up the real structure of the code nicely.
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be called until the suite has
been executed, so the reference to the open file must exist for at least
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larly when mobiles
enter the picture. I'm not convinced it's a completely good idea; a
sensible UI for a desktop probably won't be sensible for a phone and
vice versa
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On 27/02/2019 21:39, Roel Schroeven wrote:
Rhodri James schreef op 27/02/2019 om 15:18:
Aren't we overthinking this?
I think it's pretty clear that a variable is never deleted before it
goes out of scope. A quick search in the documentation points me to
(https://docs.python.org/3
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On 06/03/2019 14:15, Calvin Spealman wrote:
C++ (a language I have no respect for)
This was uncalled for and inappropriate. Please keep discord civil.
That was the civil version :-)
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after all:)
Fine, you've got me there :-)
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-*-
# -*- explicit -*-
could be used to prevent it
What exactly would you want "strict" (in whatever form) to do? I'm
guessing, but it sounds like you want more static checking. Usually
that's the province of linters and type annotation, depending on just
what you wan
me special symbils to mark that.
You sent this to me instead of the list, but never mind. If you want
this, Guido's time machine strikes again. Just use type annotations and
mypy, or pylint or the like for static checking of unexpected variables.
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'd hate to be the one trying to
implement it and I imagine it's likely to slow down execution a fair bit.
Under what condition do you want execution halted? At the moment you
haven't been much more specific than "when my program is wrong", which
isn't very he
all variables, because I
think you know what the answer to that one will be.
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ouldn't be so easily the
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t to track maybe
_var
or something like that, i want to solve that problem and this is just a
proposal
Sorry, I still don't understand. *What* do you want to mark with
"_var"? It that a comment? A new keyword? Just a leading underscore?
Could you give a full example,
x27;t guarantee to deliver the texts at all. We have had clients
become very unhappy when confronted with the reality of that.
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a[n] = x *n
which makes it look a lot less magical.
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want:
s.send(bytes("PRIVMSG " + channel + " :" + mess + "\n", "UTF-8"))
(Try printing out the line you want to send before sending it, and
compare it with the example commands in the RFC.)
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y are valid,
and frankly I can't be bothered.
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h the
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trategies.
Killing and restarting a thread is always going to be a risky business,
and will leave your system less stable. Don't do it unless you have no
choice (and if you think you have no choice, you're probably wrong!).
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;t care about tags. That library is imported within a try/except
block.
Most imports I've seen have been for mandatory functionality; while my
current code could run without its CRC library, everything it tried to
talk to would reject its messages, for example!
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text from the PDF. You are on
your own for working out how to parse the tables out of that text,
though; the structures in the data you are hoping for simply don't exist.
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