cases, such as this one.
There are various ways you could work around this. I would suggest
moving the offending code outside the class and qualifying the
constants it uses with the class name.
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On 7/11/2023 9:02 am, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote:
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 1:23 PM office officce via Python-list <
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which python version is better to be used and how to make sure it works on
my window 10 because i downloaded it and it never worke
nge
the base. That seems too much for my small head. Can you help?
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On 11/7/23 18:26, Julieta Shem via Python-list wrote:
> For the first time I'm trying to write a tail-recursive
> square-and-multiply and, even though it /seems/ to work, I'm not happy
> with what I wrote and I don't seem to understand it so well.
>
&g
lone when the exponent is even.
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Am 07.11.23 um 20:10 schrieb MRAB via Python-list:
On 2023-11-07 18:30, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 08/11/2023 06.47, Egon Frerich via Python-list wrote:
I've no idea why this happens. In a module there are lists and
definitions:
...
["%s%s%s " % (i[fCONV_AUSRICHTG],
= e - 1
return remainder(r, m)
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
So, indeed, it is asymmetric. When it's even, I change the base. When
it's odd, I change the /r/eturning value. Thank you so much.
(*) The remainder function
--8<---cut here---start->8---
def is_even(n):
return remainder(n, 2) == 0
def remainder(a, b):
return a % b
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gger inside some_call() whereas you expected
to have taken the other branch, with TCO as a feature your debugger
can't tell you the value of x and y, because the stack frame has been
eliminated.
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doing wrong?
Apologies if this is actually an SQL question rather than something
related to SQLAlchemy.
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Hi,
In my MariaDB database I have a table 'people' with 'uid' as the primary
key and a table 'groups' with 'gid'
ohn'
>>> p.mi = 'Q'
>>> p2 = Person.get(1)
>>> p2
>>> p is p2
True
Queries::
>>> p3 = Person.selectBy(lname="Doe")[0]
>>> p3
>>> pc = Person.select(Person.q.lname=="Doe").count()
>>> pc
1
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beep.
Can anyone shed light on this, and perhaps give a simpler fix?
Best wishes
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Subject: Beep on WIndows 11
Apologies if this is not a Python question.
I recently moved
On 2023-11-11 at 23:44:19 +,
Y Y via Python-list wrote:
> I am curious and humble to ask: What is the purpose of a BEEP?
It's a simple way for a terminal-based program to alert (hence '\a') a
user or an operator that their attention is requested or required
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 21:27, Y Y via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I am curious and humble to ask: What is the purpose of a BEEP?
>
There are several purposes. I can't say which of these are relevant to
the OP, but some or all of them could easily be.
* A very very simple notificati
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 04:13, MRAB via Python-list
wrote:
> In the old days, with a BBC micro, that was simple. It had 3 tone
> channels and 1 white noise channel, with control over frequency,
> duration and volume, beeps on different channels could be synchronised
> to start at t
n-a-flush-and-commit-baec6c2410a9
>
>
> HTH
Yes, thank you, it does. I hadn't been aware of 'flush'.
> Jacob Kruger
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> "Resistance is futile!...Acceptance is versatile..."
>
>
> On 2023/11/10 11:15, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrot
those that do contain
loops that result in very poor performance.
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.
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DG
> On 13 Nov 2023, at 19:42, Barry wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 13 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think it could be useful to have `xor` builtin, which has API similar to
>> the one of `any` and `all`.
>
. for intermediate in itertools.accumulate( iterable, (lambda x, y: x +
bool(y)), initial = 0 ):
... if intermediate > n:
... return False
... return intermediate == n
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>
>
> > On 13 Nov 2023,
> And explain why it is xor.
>
> Barry
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be short circuited.
Me neither, but that could be related to the meaning of n (which I did
not get) in the OP's question. Maybe he can clarify.
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 08:57, Axel Reichert via Python-list
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>
> Barry writes:
>
> > I do not understand how xor(iterator) works.
> > I thought xor takes exactly 2 args.
>
> See
>
> https://mathworld.wolfram.com/XOR.html
>
> for some background (I w
urn intermediate == n
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:05 PM Barry via Python-list <mailto:python-list@python.org>> wrote:
>
>
> > On 13 Nov 2023, at 17:48, Dom Grigonis > <mailto:dom.grigo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Short circuit
On 2023-11-13, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I think it could be useful to have `xor` builtin, which has API similar to
> the one of `any` and `all`.
>
> * Also, it could have optional second argument `n=1`, which
> * indicates how many positives indicate
applied to many bits.
This is more in line with cases that `any` and `all` builtins are used.
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 00:51, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-13, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think it could be useful to
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 10:00, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I am not asking. Just inquiring if the function that I described could be
> useful for more people.
>
> Which is: a function with API that of `all` and `any` and returns `True` if
> specified number o
some time
to even convey what I mean. Bad naming didn’t help ofc, but if it was something
that is needed I think it would have clicked much faster.
Thanks,
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 01:12, Chris Angelico via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 10:00, Dom Grigonis via
On 2023-11-13, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
> I am not asking. Just inquiring if the function that I described
> could be useful for more people.
>
> Which is: a function with API that of `all` and `any` and returns
> `True` if specified number of elements is True.
I'
n Number of True values.
Fair point.
Have you ever encountered the need for xor for many bits (the one that I am NOT
referring to)? Would be interested in what sort of case it could be useful.
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On 11/13/23 16:24, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
I am not arguing that it is a generalised xor.
I don’t want anything, I am just gauging if it is specialised or if there is a
need for it. So just thought could suggest it as I have encountered such need
several times already.
It is
m
the Latin exclusive or.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:20 PM Grant Edwards via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On 2023-11-13, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> > I am not asking. Just inquiring if the function that I described
> > could be useful fo
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 11:29, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
wrote:
>
>
> > Except the 'any' and 'all' builtins are _exactly_ the same as bitwise
> > or and and applided to many bits. To do something "in line" with that
> > using the
thing.
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 02:33, Mats Wichmann via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 11/13/23 16:24, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>> I am not arguing that it is a generalised xor.
>> I don’t want anything, I am just gauging if it is specialised or if there is
>
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 12:02, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
wrote:
> As I am here, I will dare to ask if there is no way that `sign` function is
> going to be added to `math` or `builtins`.
>
https://docs.python.org/3/library/math.html#math.copysign
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On 14/11/2023 00:33, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> Hardware and software people may have somewhat different views of xor
I've come at it from both sides. I started life as a telecomms
technician and we learned about xor in the context of switching
and relays and xor was
eo is well worth watching. More modern
error correction systems are slightly different, but will still be
built on many of the same principles.
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On 2023-11-14, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Except the 'any' and 'all' builtins are _exactly_ the same as bitwise
>> or and and applided to many bits. To do something "in line" with that
>> using the 'xor' operator would ret
other functions can easily be cobbled together.
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On 2023-11-14, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Exc
thoughts on this.
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 04:27, AVI GROSS via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I was going to ask a dumb question. Has any other language you know of made
> something available that does what is being asked for and included it in the
> main program environment rat
’t require predicates.
b) I welcome any thoughts on this.
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 04:27, AVI GROSS via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I was going to ask a dumb question. Has any other language you know of made
> something available that does what is being asked for and included it in the
&
On 11/13/2023 11:44 PM, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
Dom,
I hear you.
As you say, writing your own extension in something like C++ may not appeal to
you even if it is faster.
I was wondering if using a generator or something similar in R might make sense.
I mean what happens if you
hon-list
> wrote:
>
> On 11/13/2023 11:44 PM, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
>> Dom,
>> I hear you.
>> As you say, writing your own extension in something like C++ may not appeal
>> to you even if it is faster.
>> I was wondering if using a generator or s
.."
On 2023/11/13 19:47, Barry wrote:
On 13 Nov 2023, at 17:21, Jacob Kruger via Python-list
wrote:
Had a look at the following bit of introduction to using python and flet to
build cross-platform flutter-based apps using same python code, and, while it
seems to work alright if tell
(bit) > 6 else "")
return " ".join(pieces)
Many thanks for any hints
Cheers
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On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to me.
I need to clean up user-uploaded files the size of which I don't know in
advance.
After cleaning the
ere a way to get the
newline in as I append to list?
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On 15/11/2023 07:25, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
> for s in students:
> grades.append(s.school)
> grades.append(s.name)
> grades.append(s.finalGrade())
> if s.finalGrade()>82:
>
grades.append(s.name)
grades.append(s.finalGrade())
if s.finalGrade()>82:
grades.append("Pass")
else:
grades.append("Fail")
print(grades)
Cheers,
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significantly slower.
Regards,
DG
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 02:34, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-14 00:11:30 +0200, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>> Benchmarks:
>> test1 = [False] * 100 + [True] * 2
>> test2 = [True] * 100 + [False] * 2
>
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:50, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On 15/11/2023 07:25, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>> for s in students:
>> grades.append(s.school)
>>
On 11/15/2023 2:25 AM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Hi & thanks for patience with what could be simple to you
Have this (from an online "classes" tutorial)
--- Start Code Snippit ---
students = []
grades = []
for s in geographyClass:
students.append(geographyStu
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:45, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On 11/15/2023 2:25 AM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi & thanks for patience with what could be simple to you
>You may see responses that sugg
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:51:09 - Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
I don't give solutions; just a nudge... you appear not to fully grok
"list"; your list is ONE list with no delineation between students. You
want a "list of lists"...
>['Example High'
,
but it seems fairly probable to need `set() > n` and `set() < n`.
Regards,
DG
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 19:16, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-15 12:26:32 +0200, Dom Grigonis wrote:
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> test2 = [True]
of attribute to receive
`instance` argument on instance creation.
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here one would need `set() == n` is hard to think
> of, but it seems fairly probable to need `set() > n` and `set() < n`.
>
> Regards,
> DG
>
>> On 15 Nov 2023, at 19:16, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
>> mailto:python-list@python.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre Fortin wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:51:09 - Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>
>I don't give solutions; just a nudge... you appear not to fully grok
>"list"; yo
On 11/15/2023 2:04 PM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre Fortin wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:51:09 - Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
I don't give solutions; just a nudge... you appea
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 15:54, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On 11/15/2023 2:04 PM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>> Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>> Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (a
ow my photo-blog on Flickr at:
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On 11/16/2023 1:19 AM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 15:54, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
On 11/15/2023 2:04 PM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre
Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 7:47, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>I wrote that you don't need the "students" list, which is correct. But
>there could be a use for a list. It would let you change the order in
>
e instance as parameter.
> Note that descriptors are stored in the class: they must not store
> instance specific information in their attributes.
> Therefore, a method informing an descriptor about instance creation
> would not help: it cannot do anything with it.
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rmation in their attributes.
Therefore, a method informing an descriptor about instance creation
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ou would need a metaclass or `__inist_subclass__` is you
want your "custom method binding" globally.
For many methods (but usually not the `__...__` methods),
you can take over the binding in `__new__` or `__init__`
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at can be used on arbitrary methods.
Needing to inherit and add metaclasses whenever I want to decorate is not an
option.
I think I will continue with descriptor approach and am slowly finding route to
get where I need to, but still exploring options.
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e) are handled specially;
functions are bound. Other objects are returned as is.
`__getattribute__` can be used to take over control over the attribute
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> language reference.
>
> Functions and descriptors accessed via an instance but found in a class (i.e.
> not directly in the instance) are handled specially;
> functions are bound. Other objects are returned as is.
>
> `__getattribute__` can be used to take over control over the attribute
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On 15/11/2023 3:08 pm, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-15 03:41, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky t
erything. Or will be.
I am doubtful. We'll see!
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On 16/11/2023 9:34 am, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
Why don't you use re.findall?
re.findall(r'\b[0-9]{2,7}-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{2}\b', txt)
I think I can see what you did there but it won't make sense to me -
or whoever looks at the code - in future.
That a
On 11/17/2023 6:17 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-16 11:34:16 +1300, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
Why don't you use re.findall?
re.findall(r'\b[0-9]{2,7}-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{2}\b', txt)
I think I can see what you did there but it won't make sens
On 11/17/2023 9:46 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-17 07:48:41 -0500, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 11/17/2023 6:17 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
Oh, and Python (just like Perl) allows you to embed whitespace and
comments into Regexps, which helps
be interpreted at some point as 12
dozen, which may even be appropriate but a bit of a surprise perhaps.
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inue nudging the mouse as I click!
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ward to me. I'll be impressed if you can write
that in Python in a way which is easier to read.
Now that I know what {} does, you're right, that IS straightforward!
Maybe 2023 will be the year I finally get off my arse and learn regex.
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ch as some form of matrix or
data.frame.
And, yes, you can sort something like the above by name or GPA or number of
credits taken but the point was responding to why bother making a list just
to print it. The answer is that many and even most programs do a bit more
than that and a good choice of da
;)
Is there any more compact way of achieving the same thing?
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#x27;foo']} {d['bar']}")
Is there any more compact way of achieving the same thing?
Cheers,
Loris
Yes. e.g.
d.get('foo', "NULL")
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5 (main, Oct 28 2022, 17:28:38) [GCC] on linux
x = ('%' + "2023-11" + '%')
x
'%2023-11%'
x = ('%' + x + '%',)
x
('%%2023-11%%',)
x.__class__.__name__
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="NULL"
print(f"{id} {d['foo']} {d['bar']}")
Is there any more compact way of achieving the same thing?
Cheers,
Loris
Yes. e.g.
d.get('foo', "NULL")
Duncan
Or make d a defaultdict.
from collections import defaultdict
dic = defaultdict(lambda:'NULL')
dic['foo'] = 'astring'
dic['foo']
'astring'
dic['bar']
'NULL'
Duncan
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imo$
It's treating the "2023-11" plus % at each end as separate variables to
the binding, this is crazy! I've done similar elsewhere and it works
OK, what on earth am I doing wrong here? It has to be something very
silly but I can't see it at the moment.
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say this seems very non-pythonesque to me, the 'obvious'
default simply doesn't work right, and I really can't think of a case
where the missing comma would make any sense at all.
Maybe I've had too much to eat and drink tonight! :-)
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Am 24.11.2023 um 22:49 schrieb Rimu Atkinson via Python-list:
I really can't think of a case
where the missing comma would make any sense at all.
That is pretty tricky, yes.
The comma means it's a tuple. Without the comma, it's just a string with
parenthesis around
On 11/24/23 14:10, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
Chris Green wrote:
This is driving me crazy, I'm running this code:-
OK, I've found what's wrong:-
cr.execute(sql, ('%' + "2023-11" + '%'))
should be:-
cr.execute(sql, ('
On 11/25/2023 3:31 AM, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I want to print some records from a database table where one of the
fields contains a JSON string which is read into a dict. I am doing
something like
print(f"{id} {d['foo']} {d['bar']}")
How
On 11/24/2023 4:49 PM, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
I really can't think of a case
where the missing comma would make any sense at all.
That is pretty tricky, yes.
The comma means it's a tuple. Without the comma, it's just a string with
parenthesis around it, wh
on, more that doing the
obvious doesn't work which, in Python, it usually does in my
experience.
The error message could be a bit more helpful too, maybe one of those
"... did you mean ?" ones could point one in the right direction.
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Question: is there any other way to use a
context manager only object within a class,
with methods accessing the object?
Or any other solution to the same situation?
Thanks a lot in advance.
P.S.: currently gmail posts are deleted, due
to excessive spam, so I'll not see any reply
coming from this family of addresses.
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 at 21:08, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Grizz[l]y,
> >
> > I think the point is not about a sorted list or sorting in general It is
> > about reasons why maintaining a data
Michael F. Stemper via Python-list schreef op 25/11/2023 om 15:32:
On 24/11/2023 21.45,avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Grizz[l]y,
>
> I think the point is not about a sorted list or sorting in general It is
> about reasons why maintaining a data structure such as a list in a prog
)
perform some operations in this context (--> body of `with` statement)
tear down the context (--> method `__exit__`).
If you do not have this case (e.g. usually if you open the file
in a class's `__init__`), you do not use a context manager.
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, it makes
sense to use the expanded language if it results in faster writing perhaps
of faster code with fewer mistakes.
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> On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...
On 11/27/2023 12:48 AM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 at 21:08, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list
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On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Grizz[l]y,
I think the point is not about a sorted list or sorting in general It is
about reasons why
s variable name would make complete sense.
ChrisA
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On 11/27/2023 1:08 AM, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
I prefer namedtuples or dataclasses over tuples. They allow you to refer
to their fields by name instead of index: student.gpa is much clearer
than student[2], and makes it less likely to accidentally refer to the
wrong field.
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