some 'expensive'
computation if/when it is needed. Similarly, it could use the other
values within the enum in order to present some 'combination'.
Weirdly (given that enums are considered immutable) I imagine that if
the 'extra_member' were to call some external function with varying
output, the value could be considered mutable when it is eventually called.
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On 6/16/2023 1:40 AM, dn via Python-list wrote:
Have you figured-out a use for the @enum.member and @enum.nonmember
decorators (new in Python 3.11)?
mypy is having trouble with 3.11 enums:
"There are 83 open Enum mypy issues a
On 20/06/2023 06.12, Neal Becker via Python-list wrote:
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I am wondering if there has been any discussion why NoneType
> On 20 Jun 2023, at 01:57, Greg Ewing via Python-list
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> I would question the wisdom of designing an API that
> can return either a sequence or None.
I have some APIs that do return None or a list.
The None says that a list is not available and that the caller is
r
On 22/06/2023 03.28, Pickle Pork via Python-list wrote:
Python is unable to open. Exit Code: 1
This is not good.
Please give some useful information:
- from where did you download Python?
- which operating system?
- how do you "open" Python?
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It turns out that this is a scikit-build issue:
https://github.com/scikit-build/scikit-build/issues/740
https://github.com/scikit-build/scikit-build/issues/939
https://github.com/scikit-build/scikit-build/issues/981
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On 2023-06-24 17:18, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote:
I'm writing a database connectivity module to be used by other modules and
leveraging the jaydebeapi module.
From what I can tell jaydebeapi contains no built-in timeout capability, so
then I turned to https://pypi.org/project/ti
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On 27/06/2023 05.46, small marcc via Python-list wrote:
This code creates the path to the Excel file where the data will be written. It
checks if the file already exists, and if so, reads the existing data into a
DataFrame. Otherwise, it
it be eliminated ?
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> Can someone point me to the official catalog of security vulnerabilities in
> Python (by which I mean cpython and the standard libraries)? I found
> https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_i
On 2023-07-15 07:12, YOUSEF EZZAT via Python-list wrote:
Hey!. i face a problem when i get setup packages by pip
when i code this : "pip install numpy" in my command line it gives me error
"ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils'"
please, i need
html?highlight=isinstance#isinstance
https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/object.html?highlight=isinstance#c.PyObject_IsInstance
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On 04/08/2023 15.34, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote:
import inspect
def my_example(arg1, arg2):
print(inspect.stack()[0][3])
my_frame = inspect.currentframe()
args,_,_,values = inspect.getargvalues(my_frame)
args_rendered = [f"{x}: {values[x]}" for x in args]
print(arg
On 03/08/2023 11.38, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-08-02, dn wrote:
Can you please explain why a multi-part second-argument must be a tuple
and not any other form of collection-type?
The following comment may hold a clue:
if (PyTuple_Check(cls)) {
/* Not a general
On 05/08/2023 11.18, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 at 09:08, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 03/08/2023 11.38, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-08-02, dn wrote:
Can you please explain why a multi-part second-argument must be a tuple
and not any other form
On 07/08/2023 08.41, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
Mostly, error messages got a lot better in Python 3.10, but this one had
me scratching my head for a few minutes.
...
The error message is now a lot better, of course, but the fact that it
points at the expression *before* the error
> On 7 Aug 2023, at 05:28, Cameron Simpson via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Used to use a Pascal compiler once which was uncannily good at suggesting
> where you'd missing a semicolon.
Was that on DEC VMS? It was a goal at DEC for its compilers to do this well.
They could
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On 09/08/2023 14.28, Wilber H via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I would like to plan a Python / PyData conference in the country of the
Dominican Republic, and would like your feedback on how to best plan
for the conference.
Recommend making your request of the folks who organise
On 09/08/2023 22.30, Oliver Schinagl via Python-list wrote:
...> Looking at a python projects code and repository layout, we see the
following directory structure.
/project/core
/project/components/module1
...
/project/components/moduleN
/projects/util
...> Some modules import other m
ldn't find a way to do
it.
Thanks
Christian Buhtz
PS: This is IMHO not relevant for my question but if someone is
interested the connection to productive code can be found in this issue:
https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/issues/1473 There I describe what
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Am 17.08.23 um 09:10 schrieb c.buhtz--- via Python-list:
UnboundLocalError: local variable '_' referenced before assignment
This is a common gotcha:
https://docs.python.org/3/faq/programming.html#why-am-i-getting-an-unboundlocalerror-when-the-variable-has-a-value
You could s
Hello Mirko,
thanks for reply.
Am 17.08.2023 18:19 schrieb Mirko via Python-list:
You could solve it by defining _() locally like so:
def foobar(translate):
_ = gettext.gettext
I see no way to do that. It is not the "class based API" of gettext
installing _() into th
Am 17.08.23 um 21:17 schrieb c.buhtz--- via Python-list:
Hello Mirko,
thanks for reply.
Am 17.08.2023 18:19 schrieb Mirko via Python-list:
You could solve it by defining _() locally like so:
def foobar(translate):
_ = gettext.gettext
I see no way to do that. It is not the "class
> On 17 Aug 2023, at 15:01, c.buhtz--- via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I want to display one string in its original source (untranslated) version
> and in its translated version site by site without duplicating the string in
> the python source code?
> It wouldn't b
On 24/08/2023 03.41, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote:
I want to be able to write code like this:
with Database() as mydb:
conn = mydb.get_connection()
cursor = conn.get_cursor()
cursor.execute("update table1 set x = 1 where y = 2")
cursor.close()
cursor = conn.get_cursor()
curs
On 24/08/2023 06.11, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 24/08/2023 03.41, Jason Friedman via Python-list wrote:
with Database() as mydb:
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cursor = conn.get_cursor()
cursor.execute("update table1 set x = 1 where y = 2")
cursor.close()
cursor = conn.
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But I would like to avoid it because some of them don't know what "\n"
means and they don't know the length rule (in my case 65 characters).
Any ideas about it?
Kind
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Dear Peter,
thanks for your reply. That is a very interesting topic.
I was a bit wrong. I realized that textwrap.wrap() do insert linebreaks
when "words" are to long. So even a string without any blank space well
get wrapped.
Am 30.08.2023 14:07 schrieb Peter J. Holzer via P
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023, at 17:19, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
> I understand that this is an error: I'm telling the f-string to expect
> an integer when in fact I'm giving it a Decimal.
> And indeed f"{x:3}" gives ' 42' whether x is an int or a Decim
On 2023-09-03 17:10, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for some advice for how to write this in a clean way
I want to replace some text using a regex-pattern, but before creating
replacement text I need to some file checking/copying etc. My code right now
look something
On 2023-09-03 21:43, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I am attempting to use forward references in my program and I am failing.
This also does not work with the older way of putting the name of a class
as a string. Here is some sample code:
from __future__ import annotations
from
E
> On 3 Sep 2023, at 22:49, Chris Green via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Mostly I am managing to get things to work as I want but better
> documentation of gpiod would be a great help.
Ask the author? https://github.com/aswild/python-gpiod
Maybe read the source code for hints?
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Am 11.09.23 um 14:30 schrieb John O'Hagan via Python-list:
I was surprised that the code below prints 'called' three times.
from tkinter import *
from tkinter.ttk import *
root=Tk()
def callback(*e):
print('called')
tree = Treeview(root)
tree.pack()
iid = tree
On 2023-09-12 06:43, John O'Hagan via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, 2023-09-11 at 22:25 +0200, Mirko via Python-list wrote:
Am 11.09.23 um 14:30 schrieb John O'Hagan via Python-list:
> I was surprised that the code below prints 'called' three times.
>
>
&g
Am 12.09.23 um 07:43 schrieb John O'Hagan via Python-list:
My issue is solved, but I'm still curious about what is happening here.
MRAB already said it: When you enter the callback function, Tk's
mainloop waits for it to return. So what's happening is:
1. Tk
On 2023-09-12 19:51, Mirko via Python-list wrote:
Am 12.09.23 um 07:43 schrieb John O'Hagan via Python-list:
My issue is solved, but I'm still curious about what is happening here.
MRAB already said it: When you enter the callback function, Tk's
mainloop waits for it to re
On 2023-09-13 00:40, John O'Hagan via Python-list wrote:
On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 20:51 +0200, Mirko via Python-list wrote:
Am 12.09.23 um 07:43 schrieb John O'Hagan via Python-list:
> My issue is solved, but I'm still curious about what is happening
> here.
MRAB already sa
e apps are now globally available
- f2py
- f2py3
- f2py3.11
- fonttools
- normalizer
- py.test
- pyftmerge
- pyftsubset
- pytest
- tabulate
- ttx
- pycodestyle (symlink missing or pointing to unexpected location)
- ruff (symlink missing or pointing to unexpected location)
done! ✨ 🌟 ✨
BUT!
$ python3 -c "import buhtzology"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'buhtzology'
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thanks for your reply. I'm willing to learn for sure.
On 2023-09-16 14:17 Rimu Atkinson via Python-list
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> There's your problem - everything else is a result of this. There is
> just no nice way to work with a combination of pypi, apt-get and
>
> On 15 Sep 2023, at 23:00, rmlibre--- via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I'd like to capture the output of `time.perf_counter_ns()` as an 8-byte
> timestamp.
>
> I'm aware that the docs provide an undefined start value for that clock.
> I'm going to assume
e, however I truly strongly dislike this solution.
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: ie the obj's attributes would be reset to whatever the __init__
sets them to - if you need to do that it might be better to have a reset
method.
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Tony
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Thanks for your reply. btw: I do know what a virtual environment is and
how its works. No need to explain. And again: I do expect "pipx" to use
virtual environments. So this thread is not about pro and cons of using
virtual environments.
On 2023-09-17 11:57 Rimu Atkinson via Python-l
On 2023-09-18 10:16 "Peter J. Holzer via Python-list"
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> On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote:
> > I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's
> > pyproject.toml has a bug: A missing dependency "dateut
On 17/09/2023 13.20, James Greenham via Python-list wrote:
Hello,
On the face of it, the Python-Mac mailing list is largely inactive so I'm
posting here since it looks like this one is livelier.
What happens when doGrab() is called from the REPL, after being 'fed'
data you
Dear Peter,
maybe we have a missunderstanding.
Am 20.09.2023 14:43 schrieb Peter J. Holzer via Python-list:
> > "dateutil" is not available from PyPi for Python 3.11
That's quite a curious thing to write if you are aware that dateutil is
in fact available from PyPi fo
On 2023-09-26 14:20, Peter Ebden via Python-list wrote:
Hi all,
I've been working on embedding Python and have an interesting case around
locking with PyEval_RestoreThread which wasn't quite doing what I expect,
hoping someone can explain what I should expect here.
I have a little ex
On 2023-09-27 03:30, Chris Roy-Smith via Python-list wrote:
On 26/9/23 22:27, Abdelkhelk ashref salay eabakh via Python-list wrote:
Dear Python team,
This is my not first time using Python, I tried to launch Python and it showed
I'm no expert but
"Python 3.11.3 (tags/v3.11
On 28/09/2023 09.32, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-09-27, Larry Martell wrote:
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 12:42 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
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On 2023-09-27, Larry Martell wrote:
I was under the impression that in a venv the python used would be in
the venv's bin dir
> On 27 Sep 2023, at 12:50, Robin Becker via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Attempting venv upgrade 3.12.0rc2 --> 3.12.0rc3 I find pyvenv.cfg changes,
> but the virtual python doesn't.
> I guess this ought to be a bug.
You must delete and then recreate the venv if the
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Dear Python team,
This is my not first time using Python, I tried to launch Python and it
showed
"Python
On 01/10/2023 08.00, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote:
A type annotation isn't supposed to change what code does,
or so I thought:
#
class Borg:
_instances:dict = {}
def __new__(cls, *args, **
On 01/10/2023 11.25, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote:
Am Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 09:04:05AM +1300 schrieb dn via Python-list:
class WorkingSingleton(Borg):
def __init__(self):
print(self.__class__.__name__, ':')
> On 1 Oct 2023, at 19:36, Richard Damon via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Perhaps a better method would be rather than just using the name and catching
> the exception, use a real already_initialized flag (set to True when you
> initialize), and look it up with getattr() wi
On 2 Oct 2023, at 16:02, Jen Kris via Python-list
wrote:
Iwant to write a list of 64-bit integers to a binary file. Everyexample
I have seen in my research convertsit to .txt, but I want it in binary.
I wrote this code,based on some earlier work I have done:
buf
b.com/python/cpython/issues/104830
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On 2023-10-01 23:04, Jen Kris via Python-list wrote:
>
> Iwant to write a list of 64-bit integers to a binary file.
Everyexample I have seen in my research convertsit to .txt, but I want
it in binary. I wrote this code,based on some earlier work I have done:
>
> buf= bytes((len(qs
On 02/10/2023 00.57, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote:
Sorry for having conflated the core of the matter with all
the Borg shenanigans, that's where I found the problem in my
real code, so there :-)
The first question when dealing with the Singleton Pattern is what to do
when more
On 04/10/2023 19.41, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 15:27, dn via Python-list wrote:
- should the class have been called either;
class SomethingSingleton():
or a Singleton() class defined, which is then sub-classed, ie
class Something( Singleton
On 21/10/2023 01.32, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 10/19/2023 11:16 PM, Bongo Ferno via Python-list wrote:
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wrote:
There are many ways to make transient variables that disappear at
some time
and do we need yet
On 23/10/2023 04.50, Antoon Pardon via Python-list wrote:
I have the following small module:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 8< =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
from typing import NamedTuple, TypeAlias, Union
from collections.abc import Sequence
PNT: TypeAlias = tuple[float, float]
class Pnt (NamedTu
sult in at best an inaccurate
result and at worst - - - no result. This is the kind of thing
(correct code) that I'm
hoping to accomplish - - - to rephrase the question - - - how do I
test for that?)
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> On 24 Oct 2023, at 18:25, o1bigtenor via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to verify that a program is going to do what it is
> supposed to do
In the general case not proven to be not possible.
Have a read about the halting problem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM Grant Edwards via Python-list
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> On 2023-10-24, Dan Purgert via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2023-10-24, o1bigtenor wrote:
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> (Sorry for a nebulous subject but dunno how to have a
hardware).
>
Interesting - - - hopefully taken in the same vein as your second statement - -
I sorta sounds like programmers keep running around in the forest looking
for trees. (Grin!)
So how does one test software then?
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:09 PM Thomas Passin via Python-list
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>
snip
>
> By now you have read many responses that basically say that you cannot
> prove that a given program has no errors, even apart from the hardware
> question. Even if it could be done, the kind of specifi
A post with useful ideas - - - - thanks (it generates some questions!
interleaved)
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:35 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:11, Thomas Passin via Python-list
> wrote:
> > This doesn't mean that no program can ever be
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:43 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list
> wrote:
> > Consider an example of bit rot. I mean what if your CPU or hard disk has a
> > location where you can write a byte and read it ba
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:36 PM AVI GROSS via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Agreed, Chris. There are many methods way better than the sort of RAID
> architecture I supplied as AN EXAMPLE easy to understand. But even so, if a
> hard disk or memory chip is fried or a nuclear bomb takes out al
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:25 AM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:53, o1bigtenor wrote:
> >
> > Hmm - - - - now how can I combine 'Hamming codes'
> > and a raid array?
> >
> > TIA
>
> Normally you woul
e can be found via tests.
> Look at Python's "unittest" package for learn how to write tests.
> "unittest.mock" can help you to mockup hardware you do not yet have.
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:20 AM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:46, o1bigtenor wrote:
> > > 2. Catch the failure as you save. We have a lot of tools that can help
> > > you to spot bugs.
> >
> > Tools like this for p
>
> Python comes with "IDLE".
>
Interesting - - - started looking into this.
> There are several others,
> e.g. "ECLIPSE" can be used for Python development.
Is 'Eclipse' a Windows oriented IDE?
(Having a hard time finding linux related information on the
website.)
> Search for other alternatices.
Will do.
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s permutations,
'scientific computing', and some others but nothing python.
I may be missing something due to an extreme lack of knowledge.
Please advise as to where I might find the 'python' environment in eclipse.
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would be appreciated.
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of the try/except code looks quite clumsy to
me. It may be excellent for some tasks but to me, it looks quite
inelegant. Like I said, I have a lot to learn.
Thank you both for your guidance.
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On 26/10/2023 04.49, rsutton via Python-list wrote:
On 10/25/2023 11:06 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
outer quotation marks) prints some prominent exception types. After
...
"Manually removing" above was meant to be a fast first pass,
wh
se";.
Using Duckduckgo I had tried eclipse + python which I would have
thought should have spit out something useful - - - but that just took
me to the general page and the download - - - well it did NOT offer
any python anything!
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 10:19 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list
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>
> On 10/25/23 05:51, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > Looks like I have another area to investigate. (grin!)
> > Any suggestions?
>
> Seems to me you're trying to run before you have learn
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 11:58 AM Michael F. Stemper via Python-list
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>
> On 25/10/2023 05.45, o1bigtenor wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:35 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list
> > wrote:
>
> >> 3. Catch the failure before you commit and push. Unit
;t find anything python
related.
A previous poster (between my ask and this) pointed out a better location.
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:43 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list
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>
> On 10/26/23 06:34, o1bigtenor wrote:
> > Interesting - - - - ". . . see if it runs." - - - that's the issue!
> > When the code is accessing sensors there isn't an easy way to
> &
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:47 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list
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> On 10/26/23 10:41, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > By the way you definitely can step
> > through MicroPython code one line at a time with a remote debugger, say
> > with Visual Studio Code.
>
>
rg/project/smbus2/
smbus2 is designed to be a "drop-in replacement of smbus". SO you can look
at its documentation for or use it instead of smbus.
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On 2023-10-30 19:19, McDermott Family via Python-list wrote:
Hello, I am trying to create a one file executable with pyinstaller 6.1.0
and auto-py-to-exe 2.41.0 using Python version 3.10.9 in a virtual
environment.
Some points before the output of pinstaller is shown. My resource .py file
is
On 02/11/2023 00.35, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote:
OK. I've been doing some reading and that you should avoid regex to check email addresses.
This operation used to be a BIG THING back in the days of 'everyone'
building PHP web-sites. When there were only a handful of T
On 02/11/2023 19.46, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 05:21, Simon Connah via Python-list
python-list@python.org wrote:
Could someone push me in the right direction please? I just want to find out if
a string is a valid email address.
There is only one way
On 02/11/2023 19.56, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 17:47, Simon Connah wrote:
My goal is to make a simple mailing list platform. I guess I could just send
email to an address and if it bounces then I can remove it from the database.
Thing is I'm not sur
bout "closeness".
Thus, what you might expect from email servers and Admins, NOT what you
should do. That part should be quite evident by now!
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n-installer, or if something, somewhere, will 'break'?
(yes, there's an upgrade to Fedora 38 in "The Backlog")
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