Paul McGuire schrieb:
> Back in May, there was quite an extensive discussion of whether or not
> Python should support Unicode identifiers (with the final result being
> that this would be supported in Python 3). In my periodic googling
> for pyparsing users, I stumbled upon Zhpy, a preprocessor t
> I set PYTHONPATH to /home/me/bin in bash.bashrc, however the IDLE path
> browser is not recognizing this. Not sure why.
>
> Grateful for any insight.
The file "bash.bashrc" has no relevance. If you meant to set the
variable every time you start bash, put it into ".bashrc", in your
home directo
> I'm looking at trying to write a python script to connect to a layer 2
> bridge (no IP available).
>
> Looking at the sockets function, it's not clear if I can connect using
> only the mac address - it appears to want either a broadcast address
> or a specific IP address.
>
> Can anyone give me
> I have two threads that share a python list. One thread adds to the
> list with append(), the other thread removes items with pop().
>
> My question is -- are python list operations atomic?
Yes, they are in the current implementation of CPython (all versions).
Notice that not *all* operations a
>> My question is -- are python list operations atomic? If they are not,
>> then I assume I need to put some mutual exclusion around the append()
>> and pop() calls ?
>
> They are not, but there is one included in the standard library:
> http://docs.python.org/dev/lib/module-Queue.html
Why do you
>> Why do you think they are not?
>
> Because they aren't. You even mentioned that a few operations that
> aren't atomic.
OTOH, the OP specifically asked for .append() and .pop(), which are
atomic.
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Martin
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Thomas Heller schrieb:
> Eugen Wintersberger schrieb:
>> Hi there
>> I want to use ctypes in connection with C functions that use complex
>> datatypes defined in the C99 standard. Does someone know a simple way
>> how to implement this? Are there any plans to integrate the C99 complex
>> data type
Steve Mavronis schrieb:
> I tried to install Python 2.51 on Microsoft Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> because I use the 3D modeler software Blender 2.44, in case I needed
> additional Python support in the future for add-on scripts.
>
> I got a warning about "files in use" during installation that needed
> I am trying to figure out how to use msilib to extract the registry
> information from an MSI file and I really could use a good example of
> how that is accomplished or even just an example using msilib in
> general. Does anybody happen to know of an example for this as I wasn't
> able to find o
Charlie schrieb:
> Thanks for pointing that out. It solved the one problem and along came
> another. Now I get the following error when I try running it. Thanks for
> the help.
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "msi.py", line 7, in
> record = view.Fetch()
> _msi.MSIError: functi
Charlie schrieb:
> This doesn't seem to be my day for this. When I add view.Execute() to
> the script, it gives me an error of Execute() takes exactly 1 argument
> (0 given). I can't seem to find anything on the Microsoft page that
> concerns the execute function that states what exactly needs to b
Charlie schrieb:
> Thank you everybody for your help. It finally runs without errors and I
> should be able to use this as I figure out more of it. I am curios if
> there is any idea as to when GetString will be implemented?
If I can find the time, it may be for Python 2.6. If not, Python 2.7,
3.1
> Thank you. I would be willing to help out, but as of now I have no idea
> how to get started on it. If you would be willing to provide some
> guidance, then I would be fine with giving it a shot if nothing more. My
> guess is that it would have to implement the MsiRecordGetString function
> so th
> Is there a way to allow the process to specify that unicode-->str should
> use 'utf8' rather than 'ascii' in all non-specific cases?
No. Things might break if you change the default encoding to anything
but ASCII, and more so if you do that "at runtime". For example,
dictionaries with Unicode ke
> #this does not return the way I would expect. why?
You yield the very same list object all the times. So
when you make a later change, all earlier results will
get changed, too (since they are the same object).
Of course, it won't affect the terminal output, so you
don't see that the older value
> gc.set_debug(gc.DEBUG_LEAK)
> print gc.garbage
>
> --output:--
> []
> gc: uncollectable
> gc: uncollectable
> gc: uncollectable
> gc: uncollectable
gc.garbage is filled only after these messages
are printed, not before. You need to add an explicit
call to gc.collect() if you want to see wha
llothar schrieb:
> How can i find out if a selected python interpreter (i only know the
> path name under which i should start it) is a debug build? I tried
>
> sys.api_version, sys.platform, sys.version, sys.version_info
>
> and there is no difference between "python.exe" and "python_d.exe".
> It is a huge problem and weakness of python
Would you like to contribute a patch?
Regards,
Martin
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> Would such a patch require a full blown PEP?
No.
> If i have to write a PEP i can better add it to the documentation of
> my application and be sure that the problem is solved.
I don't understand. Are you saying you would rather not write a PEP,
and add something to the documentation of your a
>> (2) it is a interpretation language
> Not quite. It's compiled to byte-code - just like Java (would you call
> Java an 'interpreted language' ?)
Python is not implemented like Java. In Java (at least in HotSpot),
the byte code is further compiled to machine code before execution;
in Python, the
a = "{0}".format(5.66)
a
> '5.66'
>
> There are more options in PEP 3101 (fill, alignment, etc.), but I'm having
> trouble implementing them.
It would be good if you could describe these troubles in more detail.
What have you been trying, what happened, and what did you expect to
happen
John Nagle schrieb:
>I'm converting a web app from CGI to FCGI. The application works fine
> under FCGI, but it's being reloaded for every request, which makes FCGI
> kind of pointless. I wrote a little FCGI app which prints when the
> program is loaded and when it gets a request. And indeed
> In general, "parsing" is analyzing the grammatical structure of a
> string. People sometimes talk loosely about "parsing the command line".
> but I don't think that's normally applied to providing the actual
> arguments (corresponding to the definition's "formal parameters") when a
> function is
>Anything executable in the
> cgi-bin directory is being launched as a CGI program. A file
> named "example.foo", if executable, will launch as a CGI program.
> Nothing launches with FCGI.
Perhaps you have a SetHandler declaration somewhere that makes all
files CGI by default? I would advise
> I need to install my own Python. I compiled Python 2.4.4 from sources. zlib
> did not compile - it's not in the lib-dynload directory.
>
> I did not have this problem with any of my earlier Python compiles. I
> routinely compile Python from source.
>
> What is the correct procedure for insta
> I'm building 2.5.1 from source, using the ubuntu(7.0.4)-provided gcc
> 4.1.2.
Something must be terribly wrong with your system if you have to go
through such hassles. It should build out of the box, and does for
me on Debian.
Regards,
Martin
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> Someone knows since as I can obtain the information detailed about the
> compiler of Python? (Table of tokens, lists of productions of the
> syntactic one , semantic restrictions...)
The EBNF grammar is in Grammar/Grammar; this also implies the list
of tokens. Another list of tokens in Include/t
> Is pwdmodule.c supposed to be excluded for windows compilation?
Yes, it is - it gives access to /etc/passwd.
See PCbuild/*.vcproj for what files get compiled on Windows.
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Martin
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> I tend to ramble, and I am afraid none of you busy experts will bother
> reading my long post
I think that's a fairly accurate description, and prediction.
> I am hoping people
> with experience using any of these would chime in with tips. The main thing
> I would look for in a toolkit is ma
>> And while we're waiting for 2.5.1, can somebody post a clear (as
>> opposed to the one that comes with Tix ;)) explanation of how to
>> manually install Tix into python 2.5? It should be possible...
>
> LLoyd
> -Not possible - this is a known bug and won't be fixed until 2.5.1
This is not tru
> Please, is there here some good soul that understand this
> functions hi8 and lo8 (from GCC AVR) and can help me to port it to
> Python?
>
> uint16_t
> crc_ccitt_update (uint16_t crc, uint8_t data)
> {
>data ˆ= lo8 (crc);
>data ˆ= data << 4;
>return uint16_t)data << 8) | h
> Like this, the program prints some characters as strange escape
> sequences, which is due to the input file being encoded in utf-8: When I
> convert "re.findall..." to a string and wrap an "unicode()" around it,
> the matches get printed correctly. Is it possible to make "matches"
> unicode w
> import xml.dom.minidom
> from xml.dom.minidom import getDOMImplementation
> impl = getDOMImplementation()
> myDoc = impl.createDocument(None, "example", None)
> myRoot = myDoc.documentElement
> myNode1 = myDoc.createElement("node")
> myNode2 = myDoc.createElement("nodeTwo")
> myText = myDoc.crea
Kenneth McDonald schrieb:
> I know that the curses module has a long-standing bug wherein cursor
> visibility can't be set.
>
> This isn't criticism, I just know that the curses module is the sort of
> thing that probably isn't being maintained consistently, and I for one,
> have no idea how well
> After a lot of output, got this:
You will need to check this output line-for-line to see
why it fails.
Regards,
Martin
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> I am needing to build python 2.5 on Windows XP x64 Windows Server 2003
> sp1 Platform SDK and am not finding anything documented on the process
> to use. Has anyone had any success with this?
I did - I built the official binaries with it.
> If so has anyone
> document
> Any clues as to what is happening here or what to do next?
Apparently, it tries to wrap the main() function. It should
not do that: main should not be callable from Python. Most
likely, you have a declaration of main somewhere so it thinks
it should wrap it. You should not have a declaration of
> I'm working on a script to download and parse a web page, and it
> includes xml symbol notation, such as ' for the ' character. Does
> anyone know of a pre-existing python script/lib to convert the xml
> notation back to the actual symbol it represents?
If you have this given in an XML file (ra
>> Why harder? Once you read the file, they're just numbers. Anyway, being
>> harder to program the *interpreter* is not a problem, if you gain
>> something like speed or eficiency for the interpreted language.
>
> Well, it's harder to get 4 bytes and create an int out of it in a
> portable way
> Is there a way to customize the Windows build? In my case, there is no need
> to build an installer. The best way is to have everything in a directory, as
> long as I know where to find Python and Python knows where to find the
> necessary libs. Any online docs describing this? Thanks!
The i
>> I'm working on a script to download and parse a web page, and it
>> includes xml symbol notation, such as ' for the ' character. Does
>> anyone know of a pre-existing python script/lib to convert the xml
>> notation back to the actual symbol it represents?
>
> Try the htmlentitydefs module.
T
> When creating the thread, Python forks 2 times and thus consume me
> around 60% of RAM !
> It's very critical, am i missed something ?
In case Diez's answer isn't clear: you misinterpret the data you
see. That each process is listed with 4172kB memory doesn't mean
they consume 12000kB together.
> Is this information somewhere on python.org? This is at least an
> occasional question here.
Part of it. The way Python finds its landmark is in the sources
(so it is on svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/PC/getpathp.c);
the minimum set of modules is nowhere documented (and will certainly
ch
> Thanks! That's a nice little stumbling block for a newbie like me ;) Is
> there a way to make utf-8 the default encoding for every string, so that
> I do not have to encode each string explicitly?
You can make sys.stdout encode each string with UTF-8, with
sys.stdout = codecs.getwriter('utf-8
> BTW, any reason why an EncodedFile can't act like a Unicode
> writer/reader object
> if one of its encodings is explicitly set to None?
AFAIU, that's not the intention of EncodedFile: instead, it is
meant to do recoding. I find it a pretty useless API, and
rather see it go away than being enhanc
Jack schrieb:
> Thanks for all the replies. It would be great to have all customization
> related information on one doc page.
Please put it into a wiki page, at wiki.python.org
> 1. One Windows, it's possible to zip all files in a Python24.zip. I'm not
> very clear if it's used in the stardard d
Jeff McNeil schrieb:
> I apologize for not giving you a Python specific answer, but for the
> XMLRPC services I've deployed, I front them with Apache and proxy back
> to localhost:8080.
>
> I do all of the encryption and authentication from within the Apache
> proper and rely on mod_proxy to forwa
> I guess I am a little confused on the directions for the vsextcomp. I
> don't see an IDE for the vsextcomp. Do you know of any explicit
> directions on how to do this build?
Can you please explicitly say what step you did and at what precise
step you failed?
0. Install VS 2003
1. Install vsextc
> You should read the file PCBuild/readme.txt.
> It explains how to build python from source, and has long explanations
> about the same list of modules you are asking for.
>
> And it works: I regularly use the debug build of python for my own
> projects.
Also, as of Python 2.5, you don't have to
> path += '/' + b
> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 1:
> ordinal not in range(128)
>
> Any ideas?
path is a Unicode string, b is a byte string and contains the
byte \xd0.
The problem is that you have a directory with file names in it that
cannot be conver
Michael Hoffman schrieb:
> What's the best way to portably generate binary floating point infinity
> and NaNs? I only know two solutions:
>
> 1. Using the fpconst module proposed in IEEE 754, which I believe shifts
> bits around.
>
> 2. Using an extension module (for example, numarray.ieeespecial
> Can someone who is more familiar than I with the vagaries of Windows file
> protection and the Python interfaces available to it point me in a useful
> direction?
To copy a file along with its attributes, try SHFileOperation.
Alternatively, if you have backup privileges, open the file for bac
> well, instructions were clear enough for me. What is hard to get why it
> could not use free M$ compiler which is presumably produces compatible
> objects and libraries.
This presumption is incorrect. The compiler does *not* create compatible
objects and libraries. It links with msvcr8.dll, wher
> (Note the absence of a demonstration on Windows.) Can't the above be
> blessed as the One True Way and wormed around in floatmodule.c for those
> platforms where float'ing "NaN" or "Inf" doesn't currently work?
How would you do the worming-around?
Regards,
Martin
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> I don't know. On I was just asking. On unixoid systems I sort of assume
> you could add tests to the configure script to detect what worked. If
> converting the strings works you're done. If not, maybe Robert Kern's numpy
> code could be run in the configure script to generate constants for N
> I'm new to xml mongering so forgive me if there's an obvious
> well-known answer to this. It's not real obvious from the library
> documentation I've looked at so far. Basically I have to munch of a
> bunch of xml files which contain character entities like ú
> which are apparently nonstandard
> The use case has already been discussed. Removing the pointless
> inconsistency between lists and tuples means you can stop having to
> remember it, so you can free up brain cells for implementing useful
> things. That increases your programming productivity.
So to increase consistency, the .i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> Hello. Please tell me whether this feature request is sane (and not
> done before) for python so it can be posted to the python-dev mailing
> list. I should say first that I am not a professional programmer with
> too much technical knowledge.
I believe it has been req
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> This is like the previous one. Please check for sanity and approve for
> posting at python-dev.
This one is not sane. It's not possible to change the indexing of
objects on a per-module basis, as objects may cross module boundaries.
Suppose you have this code:
option
> Currently file-directory-related functionality in the Python standard
> library is scattered among various modules such as shutil, os,
> dircache etc. So I request that the functions be gathered and
> consolidated at one place. Some may need renaming to avoid conflicts
> or for clarification.
>
> complier is just a compiler. perhaps final linking could be somehow
> tweaked to include msvcrt71 instad of 80.
Not easily. VS 2005 is not just a complier, it is also a rinkel,
and ships with improt librareis. The import library for msvcrt.lib
it ships with automatically links with msvcr8.dll.
> - I noticed that socket module provides an SSL class (socket.ssl) but
> even if documentation reports that it does not do any certificate
> verification a lot of stdlib modules (imaplib, poplib, smtplib,
> httplib and urllib2) provides SSL extension classes wherein socket.ssl
> is used. What does
> Now this is what confuses me: Why does it say that I have the wrong
> type when it's the same type as it suggests?
When referring to the type, you must *always* form the address of the
type structure, including, but not limited to, the line
> if (!PyArg_ParseTuple(args, "O!", SillyStringTyp
> I assumed that the compiler would warn me about that kind of problem,
> but I know better know. :)
It's a variable argument list (...). The compiler is not supposed to
give any warnings for that (although I do have a gcc patch that enables
warnings for PyArg_ParseTuple).
> Still, the error mess
> Is it a bug in unicodedata, or is this the expected behaviour on a
> narrow build?
It's a bug. It should either raise an exception, or return the correct
result. If you know feel like submitting a bug report: please try to
come up with a patch instead.
> Another problem I have is to access the
> I have tried make uninstall and searched the web, but that did not help me.
> I guess rm -Rf python2.5 is not a wise thing to do.
It's part of the solution. There is no automated install procedure; you
have to manually remove everything that got installed. In /bin,
it's most files that have 2.5
> 1>py_dyn_test.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol
> _Py_NoneStruct
Could it be that py_dyn_test.obj is a x86 (not AMD64) object
file? Run dumpbin.
Regards,
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> So how do i include this information in regular pattern search? Any
> ideas?
At the moment, you have to generate a character class for this yourself,
e.g.
py> chars = [unichr(i) for i in range(sys.maxunicode)]
py> chars = [c for c in chars if unicodedata.category(c)=='Po']
py> expr = u'[\\' + u
> It doesn't look like these are x86, though.
Ok. Can you then check symbol lists also?: undefined
symbols in the object file, and defined symbols in the
library, wrt. PyExc_IndexError (say).
Regards,
Martin
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> I need to use Python with SSL comunication betweeen servers.
> (I use hhtplib but I think urllib2 can also be used )
> I think I need to use SSL root certificate and tell a program to
> trust this certificate.
I don't think so - what the SSL module does is already fine for you.
> But how can
> [1] http://coverage.livinglogic.de/Python/marshal.c.html. (Actually, I
> checked the downloaded bz2, but this is the only URL for marshal.c I
> could find)
A better URL is
http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Python/marshal.c
or
http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Python/marshal.c
> I heard that python 2.6 will include full "server-side SSL
> support" (whatever this means).
> Is it true?
Yes, that's true.
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Martin
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>>> But how can I tell my Python program to trust my SSL certificate?
>> Why do you want to tell it that? The SSL module will trust *any*
>> server certificate, no need to tell it explicitly which ones to
>> trust.
>
> Er, the whole idea of SSL is that you don't trust the connection.
Please try t
> The code runs successfully in lesser missions it just wont run in the extra
> memory available when I try to run it along with my other programs in a 3gb
> space.
Still, it would be helpful if you explained how "wont run" manifests:
does it fail to start, does it give you an exception, does it
> This is where python gives 'memerror'. Although the space is there it wont
> use it.
It's still not clear to me. Please be as precise and literal as you can
when reporting error messages. I very much doubt that Python outputs
memerror
at some point to the terminal; the string 'memerror' does
>> No, as Martin points out, Python trusts EVERY certificate, which of
>> course misses the whole point of certificates. Whatever is making
>> your program fail is something different.
>
> Paul, are you sure for 100%. It is hard to belive.
Not sure how many confirmations you want, but I can add
> Actually, the SSL certificate has to be in valid format, because
> OpenSSL does require that.
Sure. However, in the first message, the OP mentioned that he gets error
503. That tells me that the SSL connection had been established
successfully, and that he was actually seeing a HTTP error
> So, that leaves me wondering, why is Tkinter still getting so much
> focus in the Python standard library?
>
> Maybe a better question is, how has Tk managed to keep beating up the
> newer, more modern, more featureful, better documented toolkits
> encroaching on his territory? What's Tk's secre
> a certificate that is signed by OpenSSL's own CA( certification
> authority), that is not recognized in the program's list of root CAs,
> causes an exception to be raised.
What is "the program"? What programming language is it written in?
What library does it use to maintain a list of root CAs,
> It looks like this
>
> MyPythonProgram --->Proxy>Server
> The proxy is written in Java. I want to use that proxy to see what my
> Python program sends to server.
> The proxy uses its own certificate and this certificate must be
> trusted, I think, otherwise I receive an error.
What error d
> After I added certification, that the proxy uses, among those
> Trusted Root Certification Authorities list,as
> Gabriel described on Windows,
>
> I receive
> sslerror: (1, 'error:140770FC:SSL
> routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol')
>
>
> What does it mean?
Technically, it means
>
> Such white space is typically not intended for inclusion in the
> delivered version of the document. On the other hand, "significant"
> white space that should be preserved in the delivered version is
> common, for example in poetry and source code.
>
>
> I interpret "significant" whitespace
> Are all the real ( ;-) ) developers using ssh+svn and not noticing
> this?
As Terry said, some noticed. But yes, many use svn+ssh, plus we live
in different time zones, so we may be asleep when it breaks.
Regards,
Martin
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> 1) Why doesn't the category method raise an Exception, like the name method
> does?
As Chris explains, the result category means "Other, Not Assigned".
Python returns this category because it's the truth: for those
characters, the value of the "category" property really *is* Cn;
it means that th
> I'd like to experiment with Tk 8.5 (now in beta) in my Python
> application, but Python 2.5 requires Tk 8.4.x.
Why do you say that? AFAIK, that's not the case.
Regards,
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> It's been a while, but when I've tried to run my Tkinter app against Tk
> 8.5 with a stock Python installation, I get an error message saying that
> Tk 8.4.x is required.
Can you please clarify what you mean by "stock Python installation"?
I just built Python 2.5.1 with Tk 8.5 on Debian unstabl
> Is there a C++ version of the C Python API packaged with python 2.5?
Stargaming has already mentioned the fine points; the first answer is:
yes, the API packaged python 2.5 can be used with C++. It is a C++
version of the same API as it adds proper extern "C" declarations around
all prototypes,
> Well C++ implicitly includes OOP since that is the foundation of the
> language. I was more or less asking if there was an object oriented
> version of the Python embedded API or perhaps an OO wrapper. However
> it doesn't seem that way, so I may have to make my own.
I think you are misinterpret
> Could you emphasize a little more? I haven't worked much at all with
> the Python C API, so I may be misunderstanding. First of all, you say
> that the "Python C API is object oriented", which is contradictory
> because it should read "Python C++ API is object oriented". Perhaps
> this is a typo,
> This preference, in
> turn, is what motivated my original question. The CPython API
> interface itself seems modularized, NOT object oriented (only from
> what I saw).
I suggest you look again, then. Things like PyObject_String,
PyObject_GetAttrString, or PySequence_GetItem all express the
obje
> Is this possible or do I really have to install two complete but
> separate Pythons although most of the files are the same?
That configuration is not explicitly supported in the build process.
Notice that the "Python libraries" are not entirely platform
independent. On Sparc64, the byte code f
> var = var.encode("iso-2022-jp", "replace")
> print var
[...]
> ↓東京メトロ日比谷線・北千住行
>
> So, what's the deal? Why can't python properly encode some of these
> characters?
It's not clear. As Ryan says, it works just fine (and so it does for
me with Python 2.4.4 on Debian).
What Python version are
>
>
>
>
[...]
>
> ,
[...]
> Being both the file and the dtd provided by the supplier, I believe
> they're correct so I don't understand what's wrong. MyMessage IS
> declared... isn't it sufficient?
No. MyMessage is declared above as a Parameter Entity (PE), not
as an element. Look for defi
> Will the "stock" Windows version of Python install on a Samsung Q1U-EL
> UMPC running Vista and with an Intel A110 processor?
Certainly. This is an Pentium M class processor; the Python binaries
will run on any Pentium-or-better processor (probably actually
486-or-better).
Regards,
Martin
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> 'Microsoft JET Database Engine', "'c:\\Hqwhslfs001\\office\risk
> oversight\\myaccess.mdb' is not a valid path. Make sure that the path
> name is spelled correctly and that you are connected to the server on
> which the file resides.", None, 5003044, -2147467259), None)
>
> Please note the stra
> I have a regular expression test in a script. When a unicode character
> get tested in the regex it gives an error:
>
> UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
>
> Question: Is there a way to test a string for unicode chars (ie. test
> if a string will throw the error cite
> That doesn't answer my question, since I asked for a unicode RAW
> string literal. Is this not possible? (I was able to get what I want
> using ur"\u005Cuniverse", although this is not totally ideal.)
It's a design flaw in Unicode raw string literals that they still
interpret \u escape
>> egt = {}
>> for key in record:
>>if key.startswith('E'):
>>egt[key] = record[key]
>
> I actually had come up with something like this, but thought it wasn't
> quite as pythonish as it should be. It is certainly much more readable
> to a neophyte to python.
My recommendation: forge
>Can the subprocess module be used to launch subprocesses from threads?
The answer to this question ("can") is a clear yes. Notice that this
question is different from the question in the subject.
> Or does the subprocess module affect the entire process context, like
> "fork"?
On POSIX syst
> Should I need to download a later version of tkinter and/or should I
> alter setup.py in my python install directory and then remake?
Neither, nor. You need the Tk header files installed; they probably
come in a package called libtk8.4-dev or some such in your system.
If they are present when se
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