On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, danmcle...@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>> On Apr 1, 5:54 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Krister Svanlund
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Spencer wrote:
>>> >> Is there a
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
> dutche wrote:
>>
>>Hi folks, I have a unusual question here.
>>
>>How can I change the value of EAX register under python under Linux??
>>As paimei does under Windows.
>>
>>My project is to have a python program that loads a C program and sets
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Adam wrote:
> Am looking at
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/scipy/files/scipy/0.8.0/
> and I wonder which is the binary to install on WinXP ?
> As pointed to by this page, http://www.scipy.org/Download
>
> All I can see on that sourceforge page are the huge
> pyt
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
wrote:
>> ... or because Mingw32 doesn't provide the header files (in particular
>> wrt. C++), or because linking with a library is necessary that uses the
>> MSVC mangling, not the g++ one (again, for C++).
>
> Again, that would be code that’s
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> In a recent Reg article, there's yet more yammering on about how Go is
> somehow akin to Python -- referring to Go as a "Python-C++" crossbreed.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/go_in_production_at_google/
>
> I still don't get it
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Lie Ryan wrote:
> But the point still hold, that in real life, often the language's raw
> speed doesn't really limit the program's speed.
I would rather say that Python vs C does not matter until it does, and
it generally does when constants factor matter (which
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John Nagle wrote:
> MySQLdb won't install as non-root on Python 2.6 because
> its "setup.py" file requires "setuptools". "setuptools",
> unlike "distutils", isn't part of the Python 2.6 distribution.
>
> IMPORTANT PACKAGES SHOULD NOT USE "setuptools". Use the
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:16 AM, John Nagle wrote:
> It's nice that some of the options work. Note that someone who
> used "--bindir", expecting it to work, might end up overwriting their
> existing Python installation unintentionally, which would break system
> administration tools like cPan
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:45:14 +0100, Rhodri James wrote:
>
>> Mixing Python and assembler is a bizarre thing to want to do in general,
>> but...
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:52:15 +0100, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (3) Modern C compil
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Josef Tupag wrote:
> I've been programming (when I do program) mainly in Perl for the last 10
> years or so. But I've been itching to learn a new language for a while now,
> and the two near the top of the list are Ruby and Python.
>
> I figure that Ruby would be e
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
>> I didn't notice this level of angst when Python made equally significant
>> changes going from 1.5 to 2.0...
>
> I think the *level* was about the same (IIRC). People would say that
> they ignore 2.x for years, and that it is important to
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Peter Kleiweg wrote:
> David Cournapeau schreef op de 27e dag van de zomermaand van het jaar 2010:
>
>> I doubt "porting is easier than you think" will convince many people
>> if they don't know what the gain will be. For examp
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Tim Golden wrote:
>
> Looks very interesting. Just one thing (which might just be me):
> the front page looks very stylish and is quite a nice summary.
> But I actually *missed* the (grey on grey) [Take me to Bento documentation]
> button, which is way below the fo
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Maciej wrote:
> Does anyone have any clue what that might be?
> Why the problem is on GAE (even when run locally), when command line
> run works just fine (even with recursion limit decreased)?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
Most likely google runs a customized
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Carl Banks wrote:
>
>> Indeed, strncpy does not copy that final NUL if it's at or beyond the
>> nth element. Probably the most mind-bogglingly stupid thing about the
>> standard C library, which has lots of mind-boggling stupidity.
>
> I don
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> sturlamolden, 04.07.2010 05:30:
>>
>> I was just looking at Debian's benchmarks. It seems LuaJIT is now (on
>> median) beating Intel Fortran!
>>
>> C (gcc) is running the benchmarks faster by less than a factor of two.
>> Consider that Lua is
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On 04 Jul 2010 04:15:57 GMT
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> "Need" is a bit strong. There are plenty of applications where if your
>> code takes 0.1 millisecond to run instead of 0.001, you won't even
>> notice. Or applications that are limit
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:00 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:46:10 +0900
> David Cournapeau wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
>> > Which is 99% of the real-world applications if you factor out the code
>
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:12 AM, sturlamolden wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 10:03, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>
>> Sort of. One of the major differences is the "number" type, which is (by
>> default) a floating point type - there is no other type for numbers. The
>> main reason why Python is slow for arithmetic co
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/4/2010 7:58 PM, John Nagle wrote:
>
>> The "incompatible with all extension modules I need" part
>> is the problem right now. A good first step would be to
>> identify the top 5 or 10 modules that are blocking a move to
>> Python 3 by majo
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:42:13 -0400
> Terry Reedy wrote:
>> Good start. Now what is blocking those four?
>> Lack of developer interest/time/ability?
>> or something else that they need?
>
> How about a basic how-to document? I maintain PyG
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet
wrote:
> * sturlamolden, on 06.07.2010 17:50:
>>
>> Just a little reminder:
>>
>> Microsoft has withdrawn VS2008 in favor of VS2010. The express version
>> is also unavailable for download.>:((
>>
>> We can still get a VC++ 2008 compiler req
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 07/07/2010 12:08 AM, David Cournapeau wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet
>> wrote:
>>> There is no *technical* problem creating a compiler-independent C/C++
>>> languag
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Carl Banks wrote:
> On Jul 7, 1:31 am, Paul McGuire wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 3:30 am, David Cournapeau wrote:> On Tue, Jul
>> 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
>>
>> > One thing that would be very useful is how to mai
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
>
> My preferred long-term solution is to reduce the usage of the C library
> in CPython as much as reasonable, atleast on Windows. Memory management
> could directly use the heap functions (or even more directly
> VirtualAlloc); filenos cou
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote:
> I'm starting to think that one should use Decimals by default and
> reserve floats for special cases.
>
> This is somewhat analogous to the way that Python provides
> arbitrarily-big integers by default and Python programmers only use
>
Hi Jia,
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jia Hu wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I tried to install numpy 1.4.1 from source under ubuntu following
> instruction at http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/user/install.html
> I type "" python setup.py build –help-fcompiler "" and it says gnu95 is
> found. Then I run
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote:
>
> I would suggest that people try to build their native extension
> modules with mingw, and if it doesn't work report a bug (to mingw
> project and to the Python project) so that we can track more precisely
> what the issues are.
To b
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
>
> In your opinion what would Python gain from a C++ implementation?
The elusive advantages of "OO" in C++ are relatively minor compared to
RIIA which would make reference counting much easier to deal with. But
even that is not a strong e
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message , Roy Smith wrote:
>>
>> > C++, for all its flaws, had one powerful feature which made it very
>> > popular. It is a superset of C.
>>
>> Actually, it never was.
>
> Yes, there are a few
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> David Cournapeau wrote:
>
>> > Yes, there are a few corner cases where valid C syntax has different
>> > semantics in C and C++. But, they are very few. Calling C++ a superset
>> > of C i
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:10 AM, W. eWatson wrote:
> On 8/7/2010 4:45 PM, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
>>>
>>> To add to the msg I just sent to M. Torrie. We are given the msi
>>> programs for Python, PIL,matplotlib, and numpy. The question of how to
>>> uninstall and re-install a different version rem
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:14 PM, John Nagle wrote:
>>
>>> The languages which have real multidimensional arrays, rather
>>> than arrays of arrays, tend to use 1-based subscripts. That
>>> reflects standard practice in mathematics.
>
> Not alway
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Carlos Grohmann
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to hear from you on the benefits of using numpy.power(x,y)
> over (x*x*x*x..)
Without more context, I would say None if x*x*x*x*... works and you
are not already using numpy. The point of numpy is mostly to work on
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Chandramouli wrote:
> I built and installed Numpy on my campus account, the install couldn't
> be done on the python install location. So I did it on my local
> storage location but I am clueless about how to use it I was expecting
> to see a numpy.py in the install
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:33:36 GMT, Alan G Isaac wrote:
>>
>> On 6/12/2009 5:55 AM Virgil Stokes apparently wrote:
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on installing matplotlib for Python 2.6.2 on a Windows
>>> Vista platform?
>>
>>
>> Maintainers for
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> Creating binaries is not the same as creating /fast, efficient/ binaries.
>> Py2Exe bundles it all together, but does not make it any faster.
>>
>
> How inefficient is py2exe.
It is neither efficient or inefficient: it is just a distribution
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> It is neither efficient or inefficient: it is just a distribution
>> tool, to deploy python software in a form familiar to most windows
>> users. It does not make it any faster than running the software under
>> a python prompt.
>>
>> As much
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Nanime Puloski wrote:
> Does Numpy use Python's standard math library when calculating
> elementary functions such as exp(x) and acos(x)?
It depends on the dtype: for fundamental types (float, int, etc...),
the underlying implementation is whatever the (C) math li
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Hendrik van
Rooyen wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 August 2009 21:13:10 Kosta wrote:
>> I am a Python newbie, tasked with automating (researching) building
>> Windows drivers using the WDK build environment. I've been looking
>> into Python for this (instead of writing a bun
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Kosta wrote:
>
> Setenv.bat sets up the path and other environment variables build.exe
> needs to compile and link (and even binplace) its utilities. So
> building itself is not the issue. The problem is that if I call
> setenv.bat from Python and then build.exe,
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm trying to build a Cython-extension as Egg.
>
> However, this doesn't work - I can either use distutils to build the
> extension, creating a myextension.c-file on the way.
>
> If that's there, I can use setuptools to build the e
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
>
> Tried that, nothing changed :(
Then you will have to modify Cython.Distutils to be aware of
setuptools, I think (and soon Distribute... ).
David
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On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:11 PM, kj wrote:
> In Chris Rebert
> writes:
>
>>The double-underscores indicate that the Python interpreter itself
>>usually is the caller of the method, and as such some level of "magic"
>>may be associated with it. Other languages have you do the equivalent
>>of `def
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
>
>> On 26 Aug, 17:48, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if you are thinking about Debian Linux, it's not as much
>>> "ripping out" as "splitting into a separate package with a non-obvious
>>> name". Annoying at times, b
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Michael Kreim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was comparing the speed of a simple loop program between Matlab and
> Python.
>
> My Codes:
> $ cat addition.py
> imax = 10
> a = 0
> for i in xrange(imax):
> a = a + 10
> print a
>
> $ cat addition.m
> imax = 1e9;
> a = 0
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, BartC wrote:
>
> One order of magnitude (say 10-20x slower) wouldn't be so bad. That's what
> you might expect for a dynamically typed, interpreted language.
10/20x slower than C is only reached by extremely well optimized
dynamic languages. It would be a tremendo
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> _wolf, 11.09.2010 20:15:
>>
>> does anyone have a suggestion for a ready-to-go, fast kdtree
>> implementation for python 3.1 and up, for nearest-neighbor searches? i
>> used to use the one from numpy/scipy, but find it a pain to install
>> fo
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Ralf Haring wrote:
>
> After running into the error "Setup script exited with error: Unable
> to find vcvarsall.bat" when trying to use easy_install / setuptools a
> little digging showed that the MS compiler files in distutils only
> support up to Studio 2008. Doe
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> David Cournapeau writes:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Ralf Haring wrote:
>>>
>>> After running into the error "Setup script exited with error: Unable
>>> to find vcvarsall.bat&quo
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> Ant writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
>>
>> Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
>> relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> David Cournapeau writes:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
>>> Ant writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've just seen this: http://shed
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:54:55 -0700, Ant wrote:
>
>> Yes you are right - I've checked on my home machine, and it is indeed
>> 2.6. Still, no Python 3 unless I upgrade to Fedora 13, and upgrading an
>> OS in order to get the latest version of
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
>> Typically, if your want to install say
>> matplotlib with pygtk with a custom built python, you are in for a fun
>> ride because you have to rebuild everything.
>
> That's not what I consider a typical case. But I take your point.
It is
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