Demel, Jeff wrote:
> Björn replied:
>>IIRC, differences to 2.4 are in it, too.
> Interesting. The description I read said 2.3. That's good to
> know.
Whoops, I think it was Python Cookbook that has also remarks about
2.4. Learning Python is only about 2.3 as it seems.
Regards,
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lee wrote:
> whats the way to read the sourcecode of methods
Easy. Look up the .py file and open it in an editor of your choice.
Those files are, for example, in "/usr/lib/python".
> and built in functions?
Get your python interpreter's source code and look up the functions
there.
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B
Laszlo Nagy wrote:
>> I'm still thinking there is a better way to do it, and would
>> appreciate any ideas.
>
> Everything can be implemented with goto and arrays.
But is that really better?
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Dr. Who wrote:
> What's more amazing is that anyone would click on the link at all
> given the increasing number of website that provide hidden content
> that tries to deliver spyware or viruses just by getting visitors.
How could active input reach *me* if I just fed the W3C validator
with the U
belinda thom wrote:
> This becomes a lot easier if you use IPython (which embellishes
> the python shell in many useful ways). For instance, I did a "dir
> (__builtins__)" to find out what some of the builtin functions
> were.
Sure.
> HTH
I'm sorry, it doesn't help me.
And *please* don't send
siggi wrote:
> Thanks, Diez. I forgot to mention that I am learning Python with
> python 2.5 on WinXP. And both pymedia and pygame require somewhat
> older versions of python, 1.3 and 2.4, respectively.
1.3? I've found both for 2.4, and in one site's forum some guy
offers windows binaries for 2.
Simon Burton wrote:
> The pypy'ers have written a brief description on
> using rpython to create standalone executables:
>
> http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/standalone-howto.html
>
> This is definately worth playing around with, it's very nice
> writing (r)python code that gets executed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Any one looking for job.. I need someone good at phyton
Sorry, you'll only sporadically find people competent with plants
here.
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Salvatore Di Fazio wrote:
> I would like wait until a new line will be write in the file.
>
> Something like the "watch cat Log" command on Linux os.
Why not read the file continuously and only do something if a new
line is complete (i. e. a newline char is detected)?
> How can I check the eof
Marcpp wrote:
> Hi, when i mount a share with python...
>
> os.system ("mount -t smbfs -o username=nobody ...")
>
> the problem is that I'll to be root.
Consider modifying /etc/fstab.
> Have a comand to send a root password...?
> I've tried
>
> os.system ("su")
> os.system ("the password")
>
Méta-MCI wrote:
> Example, with meta-data (attributs of function) :
Apart from asking what counting "nb call" of a function means, I
wonder why you didn't use an iterator?
> @-salutations
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Gosi wrote:
> J is in many ways similar to Python.
The only one I see at the moment is that they're both some kind of
programming languages.
> J has very many advanced operations.
Sure.
Mh, just looking at some "advanced" J source taken from
wikipedia.org makes me feel sick:
| Here's a J prog
Méta-MCI wrote:
> If the iterator is extern (to the function), it's like decorator,
> or global var.
Please excuse me, I don't understand your point. I'm not even sure
if both of us speak of the same iterators.
> If it is internal, it's huge, compare to this.count=this.count+1
> (or this.count
Alexander Schmolck wrote:
> Apart from being less to type
Cool. Less to type.
> and it is superior in that it's
> generalizes much better, e.g:
>
> avg&.^. NB. geomtric mean
> avg&.%NB. harmonic mean
> avg M NB. column mean of matrix M
> avg"1 M NB. row mean of matrix M
Is there
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I want a specific packet format for packet exchange between a
> client server across the network. For example frame format
> as a python class could be:
> class Frame:
> def __init__(self, buffer=None, count=0, offset=0):
> self.buffer = buffer
>
S.Mohideen wrote:
> There is a dictionary on which I store/read data values. I want to
> seperate the send and recv functionality on two different
> processes so that the parallel execution becomes fast.
What makes you think that'll be faster?
Remember:
- If you have one CPU, there is no paralle
John wrote:
> Visual Basic is also good.
For what -- headache? 8)
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Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote:
> Not necessarily, if he's on a full duplex ethernet connection,
> then there is some parallelity he can take advantage of. He has
> upstream and downstream.
Partly agreed. There is one bus to the network device, and CPU
should be very much faster than the network devi
Stef Mientki wrote:
> - in Delphi the GUI design itself is done in a graphical
> environment, making it much easier and faster
RAD possible with Python, too.
> - auto-scaling of components on a form is very easy (so if the
> user changes form size ..)
Just to name one library, wxPython can do
akonsu wrote:
> hello, can someone recommend a good library to verify whether a
> file is in swf format (and ideally flv as well)? i need it to
> enable file uploading on to my web site.
Look how GNU "file" does it:
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stdazi wrote:
> Many times I was suggested to use xrange and range instead of the
> while constructs, and indeed, they are quite more elegant - but,
> after calculating the overhead (and losen flexibility) when
> working with range/xrange, and while loops, you get to the
> conclusion that it isn't
mralokkp wrote:
> I need help guys. I have a code running properly and execute again
> after a certain time.
> In Simple words [incomplete and useless code line] is not solving
> my purpose. Would any body like to help.
Please be so kind and read this paragraph:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/sm
exhuma.twn wrote:
> * Sockets
>Advantage: Supported per se in nearly every programming
>language without even the need to install additional packages
>Disadvantage: Lot's of code to write,
Who's Lot? :)
No, seriously. Why would you think that it's much to write? It can,
especially us
Eduardo "EdCrypt" O. Padoan wrote:
>> But this long int => int issue should not exist in a future
>> python version any more, IIRC int and long int is scheduled to be
>> merged somehow. (Or isn't it?)
>
> It is done.
Thanks for the info.
Please don't send mail copies!
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Stef Mientki wrote:
> Although the GUI of Python is not as good as VB,
What is the GUI of a language?
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placid wrote:
> if i want to treat every cmdloop prompt entry as a potential
> command then i need to overwrite the default() method ?
Excuse me, what's a cmdloop prompt? What's the "default() method"?
> What i want to achieve is to be able to support global variable
> creation for example;
>
Stef Mientki wrote:
> Some examples:
> - Creating a treeview (like in the M$ explorer), with full edit
> capabilities and full drag & drop facilities: Delphi takes about
> 40 lines of code (most of them even ^C ^V). - Creating a graphical
> overview of relations between database tables, which can
jupiter wrote:
> My problem is I want to use threading
You're right. Why do you think you want to use (multi-)threading?
> and I might need to pass values between function and classes. I am
> not sure how this can be done. I have read about classes and I
> know they are like function however do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have the following code:
>
> colorIndex = 0;
>
> def test():
> print colorIndex;
Don't use ";". It's redundant.
> This won't work. But it works if i do this:
>
> colorIndex = 0;
>
> def test():
> global colorIndex;
> print colorIndex;
>
> My qu
jupiter wrote:
> I am getting this error when I am using sql command within
> class.function accessing from another class
>
> how can I create seperate instance for sqlite objects ???
Trying to help you gets boring. I suggest reading the material
that's being offered.
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ken wrote:
> Hi,
> i have a class:
>
> class LogHandler(ContentHandler):
> # a reference to a file open by some other function/class
> outputFile;
What do you intend to achieve with this last line, and what's
the ';' for?
> First, I get an error saying 'NameError: global name 'outputFil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I end up with a single list, but with two brackets on each end,
> for example, [[3.5, 4.5, 5.5, 6.5, 7.5]].
>
> Unfortunately, when I try to use that last list in a NumPy
> function, I'm
> told that it cannot be broadcast to the correct shape. So, what I
> want to d
Wensui Liu wrote:
> I just start learning python and have a question regarding books
> for a newbie like me.
http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks
> If you are only allowed to buy 1 python book, which one will you
> pick? ^_^.
I'd pick a reference. YMMV.
Regards,
Björn (having been a
Greg Hoover wrote:
> How does one get access to the class that imported a module. For
> example: foo imports bar -- how does bar access foo?
Directly? Not at all in sane programs, IMHO. That's the job of clear
interfaces.
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tubby wrote:
> Right now I'm just prototyping and the threaded hosts portion
> works very well for my needs. I'd just like to add a threaded
> ports check and wanted to know if anyone had done something
> similar in Python.
Taken the vast amount of threads you'll need, there will be a big
overhead
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> def compareValue(n1, n2):
> i1 = int(n1)
> i2 = int(n2)
>
> dx = abs(i2 - i1)/min(i2, i1)
> print dx
> return dx < 0.05
You could also prepend
from __future__ import division
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tubby wrote:
> Have you tried it? Nmap is sequential.
RTFM?
| NMAP(1)Nmap Reference GuideNMAP(1)
| [...]
| TIMING AND PERFORMANCE
| [...] While Nmap utilizes parallelism and many advanced
| algorithms to accelerate these scans, the user has ultimate
|
Phoe6 wrote:
import telnetlib
tn = telnetlib.Telnet("172.31.128.244")
tn.read_until("Login: ")
> '\r\nLogin: '
tn.write("root\n:")
^^^
With telnet, use "\r\n" for line breaks at *all* times to be on the
safe side. Also, what's the ":" at the end for?
Regards
Phoe6 wrote:
> That did help and solved my problem. ":" after \n was just a typo.
Thanks for feedback :) I've had a similar problem once, too.
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Luis M. González wrote:
> I've come across a code snippet in www.rubyclr.com where they show
> how easy it is to declare a class compared to equivalent code in
> c#. I wonder if there is any way to emulate this in Python.
>
> The code is as follows:
>
> Person = struct.new( :name, :birthday, :ch
Ryan K wrote:
> It doesn't even run but when I go through it interactively it
> seems okay. Once again, any help is appreciated.
I haven't tested yet, but why don't you make a list of words of the
text (with split), and then accumulate words in a list until the
next word would make the line too l
Ben Finney wrote:
> A tuple implies a meaning associated with each position in the
> sequence (like a record with a positional meaning for each field),
> a list implies the opposite (a sequence with order but not meaning
> associated with each position).
Explain. I know tuples as immutable lists
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> class Toto(object):
> pass
>
> print Toto.__name__
Okay, I revoke my statement and assert the opposite.
But what's it (__name__) good for?
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Andi Clemens wrote:
> I want to change the A-Record for some IPs, this shouldn't be too
> hard. I looked at dnspython and twisted, but I really don't have a
> clue how to do this.
> Has anyone done this before?
Read RFC 2136 (Dynamic updates in the DNS) and see if your server
can be configured to
Ben Finney wrote:
> Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Explain.
>
> Well, since you ask so politely :-)
I admit, sometimes I'm a little short-spoken ;)
>> I know tuples as immutable lists ...
>
> That's a common misconception.
> [...]
Michele Simionato wrote:
> On Mar 1, 9:40 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bjoern Schliessmann
>>> But what's it (__name__) good for?
>>
>> As objects don't know to which name they are bound,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It worked before with a perl script, but now I'm using django for
> all our web services so I want to implement this update function
> in Python as well.
> I don't know how to do this in Python, right now I'm trying it
> with twisted, but I don't what to do exactly. It w
Andi Clemens wrote:
> It's working!!!
> Yeah!
> I don't know why I didn't get this the first time I tried
> dnspython, but now its working! And it's so easy, 3 lines of code:
Great, thanks for reporting back.
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Duncan Booth wrote:
> Why not try it out for yourself (both of you). Globals do not need
> to be defined in the global scope so long as the first 'access' is
> to bind a value to the variable:
Well, I did. I (mis)understood the OP to mean "read" by "access". I
didn't consider rebinding another obj
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Bjoern Schliessmann a écrit :
>> You can't just declare in Python, you always define objects (and
>> bind a name to them).
>
> def toto():
>global p
>p = 42
>
> Here I declared 'x' as global without defining
Jim Hendricks wrote:
> This sounds like an issue of terminology. I understand that I
> don't declare variables like I would in C or Java, but that they
> are implicitly declared via the first assignment.
I think yes, it's an issue of terminology. As mentioned I used the
terms I know from C/C++,
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter wrote:
> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'x' referenced before assignment
For your reference:
http://groups.google.de/groups?q=group:comp.lang.python+UnboundLocalError
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Jeff McNeil wrote:
> I've used the 'os.path.realpath(os.path.pardir)' construct in a
> couple of scripts myself.
In Windows? Using Linux, this gives me "..".
I use os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))
> That ought to work within the interactive interpreter.
Why do you also enter that cod
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> So what's the difference ? Why can't bar be called a method
> of foo, or is it merely a convention that classes have
> methods and modules have functions?
In depends on which terminology you use. As Steven told, Python
methods are special functions. In contrast, the t
Michael wrote:
> Björn, what library files end up being in your dist directory for
> that project? Would you mind posting a copy of the output of dir?
Okay, sorry for the delay. Here the output of py2exe is, for
directory contents see below.
| The following modules appear to be missing
| ['FCNT
Grant Edwards wrote:
> Yes, it's "modern" enough to run Linux/X11 -- horsepower-wise
> it's sort of in the PDA class of devices. wxWidgets has been
> tried, but it's pretty sluggish. Hence the search for something
> a littler lighter weight.
Erm, wxWidgets is implemented in C++ and wxPython is j
Pawel wrote:
> Is there any way to disable global for x? Something like that:
x = 12345
def foo():
> ... global x
> ... print x
> ... noglobal(x) # ???
> ... x = 0# now this is local x
Not really. Why don't you choose meaningful variable names? You
practically sa
klenwell wrote:
> Bjoern Schliessmann wrote:
>> I use os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))
>
> That makes sense, as it is almost a literal translation of what
> I'm used to using in PHP. Thanks for pointing this out.
You're welcome, happy coding :)
Regards,
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2007-11-04, Bjoern Schliessmann
>> Erm, wxWidgets is implemented in C++
>
> Are you saying C++ software can't be large and slow?
No, but wxWidgets is quite mature and my experience is that it's
faster than Qt (partly, I think, because it alway
ce wrote:
> is there a way to figure out which scripting language was used in
> a cgi. I used to watch extensions (i.e. py, pl, asp or php)
I'd say that ASP and PHP are rather rarely used for CGI scripts.
Also, extensions are essentially meaningless.
> nowadays i hardly see any extensions and re
Janne Härkönen wrote:
class X:
> ... def x(self):
> ...pass
> ...
class Y(X):
> ... def y(self):
> ...pass
> ...
y = Y()
y.x.im_class
>
y.y.im_class
>
>
> What I would like to find out is the declaring class of method x,
> ie. class X How to do this ?
The g
Benjamin wrote:
> Python is has duck typing. "If it quacks like a duke, it's duck."
How do dukes quack, exactly? :)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would argue that interfaces/(similar feature) are necessary in
> any modern language
I wouldn't, but have a look at the Zope interfaces module. It seems
to work similar to Java's interfaces.
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Jorgen Bodde wrote:
> There are two roles:
>
> Repository maintainer:
> -
> - Developer of the 'repository' creates a snapshot
> - This archive is uploaded on his private site
> - A file that accompanies the archive containing the list of
> updates is sent last
>
> Repository updater:
> -
Jorgen Bodde wrote:
> As for subversion, this is not possible as I want to provide
> people wihtout the ability to have a subversion server but only a
> plain web site,
What's a "plain web site"? Could mod_python be on it?
> to download a file that can upgrade a local work copy.
As others men
Robin Becker wrote:
> I'm trying to determine the transparency information for a png
> image. With gif images I can determine the colour that is used for
> transparent areas using im.info['transparency']. For the png
> images of interest there is no such entry in the info dict. I
> assume that's b
Licheng Fang wrote:
> I mean, all the class instances that equal to each other should be
> reduced into only one instance, which means for instances of this
> class there's no difference between a is b and a==b.
If you only want that if "a == b" is True also "a is b" is True,
overload the is_ attr
Licheng Fang wrote:
> I find myself frequently in need of classes like this for two
> reasons. First, it's efficient in memory.
Are you using millions of objects, or MB size objects? Otherwise,
this is no argument.
BTW, what happens if you, by some operation, make a == b, and
afterwards change b
Licheng Fang wrote:
> On Nov 24, 7:05 pm, Bjoern Schliessmann > BTW, what happens if you, by some operation, make a == b, and
>> afterwards change b so another object instance must be created?
>> This instance management is quite a runtime overhead.
>
> I probably need th
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> No advantage? That's for sure. There is no is_ attribute of
> generic classes, and even if there was, it would have no special
> meaning.
Argl, I confused the operator module's attributes with objects ;)
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Alexander Tuchacek wrote:
> i try to adress an qt object
>
> self.statusbar.showMessage("rtt %s" % (n.rtt))
>
> in an callback function, comming from a shared lib importet by
> ctypes, on osx this works wonderfull
>
> when i run the same code on linux (ubuntu gutsy), i get this core
> dump,
Aurélien Campéas wrote:
> I mean : aren't C variables also bindings from names to objects ?
No, C variables are aliases for memory addresses.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a problem with reading from a Java server after I have
> written to it - it just hangs. It works fine if I just write to
> the server and not try to write.
Excuse me?
> I have read the HOWTO on sockets - and it states that there is a
> problem (something about f
Glich wrote:
> hi, how can I, control mouse position and clicking from python?
>
> I want to interact with a flash application inside firefox.
> thanks.
>
> ps: I am not using windows.
On Mac, IIRC, you can't.
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Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Nonetheless, this extremely useful list is so crowded that if
> checking email is not carried out every few hours, it is difficult
> to detect other messages in the plethora of pythons and spams
> arrived.
Why don't you use a newsreader to access comp.lang.python? It's
s
Tony wrote:
[place mouse programmatically]
> well, you can do it from Java,
Are you absolutely positive? IIRC the Mac UI guidelines forbid such
things, and there's no API function for it; so Java wouldn't have
any chance.
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Glich wrote:
> I am running ubuntu. :)
I neither asserted differently nor am I competent in clairvoyance.
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Siah wrote:
> I need to convert the string: '(a, b, "c", d, "e")' into the
> following list ['a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e']. Much like a csv reader
> does. I usually use the split function, but this mini-monster
> wouldn't properly get split up due to those random quotations
> postgresql returns to me.
Robert Kern wrote:
> There is an API for it. Not all programs have GUIs so the HIG
> doesn't restrict the scope of the OS's APIs.
Ah, okay. In (IIRC) wxPython docs, I read differently.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> First, python also means snake, Monty Python. If we search
> "python" in google, emule, many results are not programming
> resource. If we search PHP, all results are programming resource.
Who cares? No one looking for special Python programming tips will
use only "pytho
Siah wrote:
> The basic split/strip method wouldn't split '(a, b, "c,...", d)',
> which is why I chose not to use it.
Could you please explain which part of my example doesn't work?
split takes arguments which enables it to split your string as
desired.
> The csv solution seems to work well, th
Russ P. wrote:
> I agree that Python is not a good name for a programming language,
Why not?
BTW, is "Windows" a great name for an operating system?
> If I had invented Python, I would have called it Newton or Euler,
> arguably the greatest scientist and mathematician ever,
> respectively. The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> New name "Pytn" may be better, do you think so ?
No. How would you pronounce it? Pai-tn?
Why don't you create a fork where the only difference is the name?
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Dotan Cohen wrote:
> C was named after the B programming language, as it was inspired
> and meant to replace it. C++ is obviously C+1
Strictly speaking, C++ evalutes to C, but C is incremented
afterwards.
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John Machin wrote:
> Amazing what you can find in obscure corners of the obscure docs!
> BTW, how many folks know what "bijective" means ?
Everyone that can read and is smart enough to enter "bijective" into
Wikipedia search.
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Tóth Csaba wrote:
> Lets evaluate from the Python3000: Newton3 (N3).
>
> +1 vote from me :)
Nah.
BTW, why exactly do you keep using an X-Face header completely
identical to mine?
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Russ P. wrote:
> Python is an "acceptable" name, but Newton1 (or Newton3) would be
> a great name.
Nah, I like Monty and Snakes. Newton already has his name as unit
for kg*m/s^2. :)
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Tommy Grav wrote:
> The class method needs a self argument so that
> disp.fill_canvas() can parse the class instance disp
> to the method.
It's an instance method, no class method.
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Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:31:55 +0100, Zara wrote:
>> He meant quetzatcoatl. We could rename the language.
>
> That name is already taken in the programming language domain.
> There's a Tiny C compiler for 6510 based targets:
Uh, why don't take one of his aliases?
Piet van Oostrum wrote:
> "Adrian Cherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (AC) wrote:
>> For that matter C# is no better, I thought that # was
>> pronounced hash, I still refer to C# as C-hash.
>
> Are you musically illiterate?
I wonder what Cb (C-flat) would be. Ada? :)
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Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> I wouldn't be that harsh... Though I've never heard # as "hash"...
Python programmer and never heard of the hashbang? :)
Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign
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Joe Goldthwaite wrote:
> I read that the range function builds a list and that xrange
> returns an iterator and is therefore more efficient.
This is generally not true.
> In my testing, they both come out to almost exactly the same
> performance wise. Did something get changed in Python 2.4 to
Mario M. Mueller wrote:
> I have a binary file containing 3 byte float values (big endian).
> How can I read them into python? The struct module does not work,
> since it expects 4 byte floats.
Since the module crystalball is still in development, you'll have to
analyze your three byte float forma
Mario M. Mueller wrote:
> It's output of a digitizer (but not that old). I was also
> wondering about the reason for this limitation (maybe the design
> is ~20 years old).
Uh, that's weird. Since Python cannot guess its format, you'll have
to try it out. Why don't you try to let the device output
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> A RST when you close a socket is OK.
Says who? MS? ;)
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Object01 wrote:
> The server is multithreaded, handling each request on its own
> thread.
Ugh.
> But is a RST really a part of a valid close operation?
Depends on the state of the parties :) The proper way to close
non-defunct connections is using FIN segments.
> It was my understanding that
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>> The problem is '2' != 2
>
> It would indeed be a problem if this expression eval'd to True.
> That's the case in some, hem, 'languages', and believe me it's
> *not* the RightThing.
What kind of "hem" language is this? :)
>>> '2' != 2
T
Object01 wrote:
> Is there something I can look for in the packet traffic that would
> indicate one party is misbehaving? The sequence numbers seem ok.
> *shrug* I'd expect to see data sent from server to client and
> then see a sequence of packets that close the connection
> gracefully. Instead
Xavier Barthelemy wrote:
> so when I call another array with these indices
> ArrayWithData[i,int(choice[i].current[0])]
You don't "call" "arrays" "with indices". You are indexing the list
ArrayWithData using the index "i,int(blah)" which is invalid.
Indices must be integers, not comma seperated v
SMALLp wrote:
> remember worked file when i wrote eg. import myFile but now in
> Ubuntu it says Module not found. (I'm using Ubuntu and I've
> installed python 2.5 and wxPython 2.8.4, and I'm using GedIt as my
> favorite text editor). The question is how to make this work
> (files are in the same
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