Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

Dealing with stdout / stderr is bash is just syntax. I don’t always remember it off the top of my head but … stackoverflow.com. On Linux at least it’s possible to pipe to arbitrary streams, it seems. The following uses bash to write “Hi” to the file “third” opened by Python. I determined the fi

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 2023-01-04 at 12:02:55 +, "Weatherby,Gerard" wrote: > Dealing with stdout / stderr is bash is just syntax. I don’t always > remember it off the top of my head but … stackoverflow.com. https://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html > On Linux at least it’s possible to pipe to arbitrary

No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

Hello, first I have to say that in my current and fresh humble opinion the often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on "stdout". That is what this question is about. The logging module is not an option becau

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 00:54, wrote: > > Hello, > > first I have to say that in my current and fresh humble opinion the > often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should > affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on > "stdout". That is what this question is

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

A couple options. The -vvv is more of Linux thing rather than Pythonic, to my way of thinking. import argparse parser = argparse.ArgumentParser() parser.add_argument('-v',action='store_true') parser.add_argument('-vv',action='store_true') parser.add_argument('-vvv',action='store_true') args = p

Re: Python - working with xml/lxml/objectify/schemas, datatypes, and assignments

aapost wrote at 2023-1-3 22:57 -0500: > ... >Consider the following: > >from lxml import objectify, etree >schema = etree.XMLSchema(file="path_to_my_xsd_schema_file") >parser = objectify.makeparser(schema=schema, encoding="UTF-8") >xml_obj = objectify.parse("path_to_my_xml_file", parser=parser) >xm

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

On 1/4/23, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > > often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should > affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on > "stdout". That is what this question is about. Is this additional context information such as help and definitions? If

Re: No solution for "--verbose" (on stdout) output in Pythonds standard library?

> On Jan 4, 2023, at 8:56 AM, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > > Hello, > > first I have to say that in my current and fresh humble opinion the > often seen "--verbose" switch in command line applications should > affect only the messages given to the users. This means messages on > "stdout". That is

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 04/01/2023 02:26, Chris Angelico wrote: Reading/writing the FD is the same as using stdout (technically you'd write to fd 1 and read from fd 0), but yes, can use /dev/tty to reach for the console directly. I think the logic is more like checking that stdin is a tty then using the tty it to

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 04/01/2023 06:46, Chris Angelico wrote: I've known some systems to have a trigger of "reading on FD 0 flushes FD 1" C++ has this feature: Quote from https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/io/cin "Once |std::cin| is constructed, std::cin.tie() returns &std::cout

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 2023-01-04 16:46:37 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 15:11, Eryk Sun wrote: > > On 1/3/23, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > writing the FD is the same as using stdout > > > > Except stdout may be buffered. Maybe I'm overly lax in my terminology, but I frequently use the term "s

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 2023-01-03 21:24:20 +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > The main question here is why does Python deciecded to make all logs go to > stderr? It doesn't. The Python logging system provides a plethora of handlers to log to lots of different places. Only the StreamHandler defaults to writing to std

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 1/3/2023 10:35 AM, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: The logging module write everything to stderr no matter which logging level is used. The OP wrote this, but it's not so by default. There is a HOW-TO page that explains this and how to get the logging package to log everything to a file, along w

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 03/01/2023 21:24, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: Am 03.01.2023 17:51 schrieb r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: logging.getLogger().addHandler( logging.StreamHandler( sys.stdout )) But I don't want to make all log levels go to stdout. Just DEBUG and INFO. But this would be a workaround. The main quest

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On 03/01/2023 21:24, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: Am 03.01.2023 17:51 schrieb r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: logging.getLogger().addHandler( logging.StreamHandler( sys.stdout )) But I don't want to make all log levels go to stdout. Just DEBUG and INFO. But this would be a workaround. The main quest

Re: What should go to stdout/stderr and why Python logging write everything to stderr?

On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 05:06, Barry Scott wrote: > > > On 03/01/2023 21:24, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > > Am 03.01.2023 17:51 schrieb r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: > >> logging.getLogger().addHandler( logging.StreamHandler( sys.stdout )) > > > > But I don't want to make all log levels go to stdout. Just

Re: Python - working with xml/lxml/objectify/schemas, datatypes, and assignments

On 1/4/23 09:42, Dieter Maurer wrote: aapost wrote at 2023-1-3 22:57 -0500: ... Consider the following: from lxml import objectify, etree schema = etree.XMLSchema(file="path_to_my_xsd_schema_file") parser = objectify.makeparser(schema=schema, encoding="UTF-8") xml_obj = objectify.parse("path_to