duncan smith writes:
> I'm just getting to grips with RDF and rdflib, and I've hit
> something I can't figure out.
>
> I have a graph with information on two people. (I haven't shown the
> imports below because they're scattered around my interactive session
> and I might reconstruct them i
Chris Angelico :
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I was talking about JSON for the standard I/O, not the command-line
>> arguments, as in:
>>
>>ps -ef | awk '/httpd/ { print $2 }'
>>
>> where "ps -ef" emits SPC-separated fields and LF-separated records, and
>> awk pa
Hello,
I know Python does not have variables, but names.
Multiple names cant then be bound to the same objects.
So this behavior
>>> b = 234
>>> v = 234
>>> b is v
True
according to the above that is ok
But where is the consistency ? if I try :
>>> v = 890
>>> w = 890
>>> v is w
False
It
Den 02-03-2016 kl. 09:32 skrev Salvatore DI DIO:
Hello,
I know Python does not have variables, but names.
Multiple names cant then be bound to the same objects.
So this behavior
b = 234
v = 234
b is v
True
according to the above that is ok
But where is the consistency ? if I try :
v =
On 02/03/2016 09:32, Salvatore DI DIO wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I know Python does not have variables, but names.
> Multiple names cant then be bound to the same objects.
>
> So this behavior
Python has variables. They are just not the kind of variables
you find in C and variations but more like variab
Salvatore DI DIO wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I know Python does not have variables, but names.
> Multiple names cant then be bound to the same objects.
>
> So this behavior
>
b = 234
v = 234
b is v
> True
>
> according to the above that is ok
>
>
>
> But where is the consistency ? if
"ast" a écrit dans le message de
news:56d5d043$0$632$426a7...@news.free.fr...
ty for the détailed explanations.
An other question:
What is the very first method launched when an instantiation is done ?
e.g obj = MyClass(0, 5, 'xyz')
is it __call__ (from object or MyClass if overriden) ?
Salvatore DI DIO writes:
[- -]
> But where is the consistency ? if I try :
>
v = 890
w = 890
v is w
> False
I think it goes as follows.
Python keeps a cached pool of some numbers that may occur relatively
often. When a numerical expression evaluates to a cached value, it
returns
Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>Gordon Levi :
>
>> Nobody likes filling in forms but how do you suggest converting a form
>> based app into something loveable.
>
>Straight HTML does forms just fine without CSS or JavaScript, yet few
>can resist.
>
>> What interface would make you love adding a new contact
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 7:53:10 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:29 am, Ian Kelly wrote:
> >
> >> There's a big difference between
> >> that and clocking a year of uptime just because you can, though.
> >
> > What othe
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 07:32 pm, Salvatore DI DIO wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I know Python does not have variables, but names.
> Multiple names cant then be bound to the same objects.
Multiple names CAN be bound to the same object:
py> x = y = []
py> x is y
True
py> z = x
py> y.append("Hello world!")
py>
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:45:28 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 7:53:10 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:29 am, Ian Kelly wrote:
> > >
> > >> There's a big difference between
> > >>
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:03 pm, Jesper K Brogaard wrote:
> As I understand it, when you use 'is', you are comparing addresses to
> objects, not the values contained in the objects. Use '==' instead.
You should not think about addresses, because the location of objects is not
part of the language. It
Thank you very much all of you.
I better understand now
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It is a little difficult to explain this behavior to a newcommer in Python
Can someone give me the right argument to expose ?
It is explained with many details here:
http://blog.ler
Thank you very much ast and all of you.
I better understant now
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:23 pm, ast wrote:
> An other question:
>
> What is the very first method launched when an instantiation is done ?
> e.g obj = MyClass(0, 5, 'xyz')
>
> is it __call__ (from object or MyClass if overriden) ?
No, not object or MyClass. The *metaclass* __call__ is called.
F
Terry Reedy at 2016/3/2 UTC+8 3:04:10PM wrote：
> On 3/1/2016 9:35 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote:
> > Recently I was puzzled by a tkinter problem. The codes below (from a book)
> > can display the picture correctly.
> >
> > gifdir = "../gifs/"
> > from tkinter import *
> > win = Tk(
Gordon Levi :
> I find it difficult to believe that you _love_ updating your contacts
> using Emacs even if it gives you an excuse to get some therapy from
> Eliza. It seems equally unlikely that you can do without phone numbers
> and addresses for your contacts.
WP8 doesn't allow me to modify th
Steven D'Aprano :
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:03 pm, Jesper K Brogaard wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, when you use 'is', you are comparing addresses to
>> objects, not the values contained in the objects. Use '==' instead.
>
> You should not think about addresses, because the location of objects
> is
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> The ontological question is, can two *distinct* objects with *identical*
> characteristics exist?
>
> The fermionic answer is, no.
>
> The bosonic answer is, sure.
>
> Set theory has fermionic ontology (it's called extensionality).
>
> Pytho
Chris Angelico writes:
> Python defines that every object has an identity, which can be
> represented as an integer. Since this is an intrinsic part of the
> object, no two distinct objects can truly have identical
> characteristics. Python's objects are like rifles - there are many
> like it, bu
Chris Angelico :
> Python defines that every object has an identity, which can be
> represented as an integer. Since this is an intrinsic part of the
> object, no two distinct objects can truly have identical
> characteristics. Python's objects are like rifles - there are many
> like it, but this
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> Python defines that every object has an identity, which can be
>> represented as an integer. Since this is an intrinsic part of the
>> object, no two distinct objects can truly have identical
>> characteristics. Python'
Hi,
it seems that urlopen had no context manager for versions < 3. The
following code therefore will crash on py2 but not on py3.
from six.moves.urllib.request import urlopen
with urlopen('http://www.google.com') as resp:
_ = resp.read()
Error:
AttributeError: addinfourl instance has no a
Chris Angelico :
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Chris Angelico :
>>
>>> Python defines that every object has an identity, which can be
>>> represented as an integer. Since this is an intrinsic part of the
>>> object, no two distinct objects can truly have identical
>>
On 2 March 2016 at 14:05, Fabien wrote:
> [snip]
> My question is: why does the python3 version need a "with" block while the
> python2 version doesn't? Can I skip the "with" entirely, or should I rather
> do the following:
It's not a case of "need", using the "with" construction is an added
feat
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>> from six.moves.urllib.request import urlopen
>>
>> try:
>> with urlopen('http://www.google.com') as resp:
>> _ = resp.read()
>> except AttributeError:
>> # python 2
>> resp = urlopen('http://www.google.com')
>> _ = resp
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 7:42:09 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> Chris Angelico :
> >>
> >>> Python defines that every object has an identity, which can be
> >>> represented as an integer. Since this is
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
> The following are too delicate for me. I suppose the answers could have
> been different, but I can't guess what mechanism actually leads to these
> results. Just idle curiosity on my part.
>
890 is 890
> True
id(890) == id(890)
On 2016-03-02, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Software updates? The nice thing about *nix systems is that *most*
> updates don't require a reboot. I'm still going to reboot any time
> there's a kernel update though, and those are fairly frequent. I could
> read the patch notes to determine whether this new k
On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 12:23:02 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 2/29/2016 7:42 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > Is import needed at all when trying out in Idle?
> ...
> > So it does appear that
> > 1. import not necessary with(in) idle
> > 2. However import and f5 (ie is run as main) are di
On 03/02/2016 03:35 PM, Matt Wheeler wrote:
I agree that six should probably handle this,
Thank you Matt and Chris for your answers. Do you think I should open an
issue on six? It sounds unlikely that I am the first one having this
problem...
(until this difference with urlopen I have found
Ian Kelly writes:
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>> The following are too delicate for me. I suppose the answers could have
>> been different, but I can't guess what mechanism actually leads to these
>> results. Just idle curiosity on my part.
>>
> 890 is 890
>> Tru
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Fabien wrote:
> On 03/02/2016 03:35 PM, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>>
>> I agree that six should probably handle this,
>
>
> Thank you Matt and Chris for your answers. Do you think I should open an
> issue on six? It sounds unlikely that I am the first one having this
> pr
On 02/03/16 08:16, dieter wrote:
> duncan smith writes:
>
>> I'm just getting to grips with RDF and rdflib, and I've hit
>> something I can't figure out.
>>
>> I have a graph with information on two people. (I haven't shown the
>> imports below because they're scattered around my interactiv
On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 10:36:02 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 04:08 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > And who is the last arbiter on that 'reality'?
>
> I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is a genuine question, and
> not just an attempt to ask a rhetorica
Speaking of Javascript exploits:
http://thedailywtf.com/articles/bidding-on-security
This is a real exploit, and Ebay have refused to fix it. Yay them!
More here:
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/02/02/ebay-platform-exposed-to-severe-vulnerability/
--
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 12:48 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Chris Angelico :
>>
>>> Python defines that every object has an identity, which can be
>>> represented as an integer. Since this is an intrinsic part of the
>>> object, no two distinct o
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 01:11 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> What is missing is the rules that are obeyed by the "is" operator.
I think what is actually missing is some common bloody sense. The Python
docs are written in English, and don't define *hundreds*, possible
*thousands* of words because they are
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:53:40 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 01:11 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
> > What is missing is the rules that are obeyed by the "is" operator.
>
> I think what is actually missing is some common bloody sense. The Python
> docs are written
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:24:12 +0100, ast wrote:
>
> It's not clear to me what arguments are passed to the
> __new__ method. Here is a piece of code:
>
>
> class Premiere:
>
> def __new__(cls, price):
> return object.__new__(cls)
>
> def __init__(self, price):
> pass
[snip
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Speaking of Javascript exploits:
>
> http://thedailywtf.com/articles/bidding-on-security
>
>
> This is a real exploit, and Ebay have refused to fix it. Yay them!
>
> More here:
>
> http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/02/02/ebay-platform-exposed-
Salvatore DI DIO writes:
> I know Python does not have variables, but names.
In addition to the other food answers in this thread, you will want to
watch http://nedbatchelder.com/text/names.html> Ned Batchelder's
presentation on “Facts and myths about Python names and values”.
--
\“Me
Peter Pearson wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:24:12 +0100, ast wrote:
>>
>> It's not clear to me what arguments are passed to the
>> __new__ method. Here is a piece of code:
>>
>>
>> class Premiere:
>>
>> def __new__(cls, price):
>> return object.__new__(cls)
>>
>> def __init__(sel
Steven D'Aprano :
> In this case, "same object" carries the normal English meaning of
> "same" and the normal computer science meaning of "object" in the
> sense of "Object Oriented Programming". There's no mystery here, no
> circular definition.
I see three possible ways of defining "is" / objec
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Rob Gaddi
wrote:
> Peter Pearson wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:24:12 +0100, ast wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not clear to me what arguments are passed to the
>>> __new__ method. Here is a piece of code:
>>>
>>>
>>> class Premiere:
>>>
>>> def __new__(cls, price):
>>
On 2016-03-02, Chris Angelico wrote:
> To be fair, this isn't a JS exploit; it's a trusting-of-trust issue -
> eBay has declared that you can trust them to sanitize their sellers'
> listings, and so you trust eBay, but this exploit gets past the
> filter.
This is true. It sounds like their filter
Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with multiple
conditions like this:
if (some_condition and
some_other_condition and
some_final_condition):
play_bingo()
the tool complains that the indentation of the conditions is the same
as the next block. In th
Skip Montanaro :
> Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with multiple
> conditions like this:
>
> if (some_condition and
> some_other_condition and
> some_final_condition):
> play_bingo()
> [...]
>
> is there a better way to break lines I'm missing whic
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Jon Ribbens
wrote:
> On 2016-03-02, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> To be fair, this isn't a JS exploit; it's a trusting-of-trust issue -
>> eBay has declared that you can trust them to sanitize their sellers'
>> listings, and so you trust eBay, but this exploit gets past
On 3/2/2016 21:43, Skip Montanaro wrote:
Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with multiple
conditions like this:
if (some_condition and
some_other_condition and
some_final_condition):
play_bingo()
the tool complains that the indentation of the c
Skip Montanaro wrote:
> Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with multiple
> conditions like this:
>
> if (some_condition and
> some_other_condition and
> some_final_condition):
> play_bingo()
>
> the tool complains that the indentation of the conditi
Skip Montanaro writes:
> Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with multiple
> conditions like this:
>
> if (some_condition and
> some_other_condition and
> some_final_condition):
> play_bingo()
>
> the tool complains that the indentation of the conditi
On 02/03/2016 17:23, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 01:11 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
What is missing is the rules that are obeyed by the "is" operator.
I think what is actually missing is some common bloody sense. The Python
docs are written in English, and don't define *hundreds*,
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Are we discussing UK (highly generalised), Geordie, Glaswegian, US,
> Canadian, South African, Australian, New Zealand, or some other form of
> English?
Is there any disagreement among them about the word "same"?
ChrisA
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On 03/02/2016 12:50 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Skip Montanaro queried:
Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with multiple
conditions like this:
if (some_condition and
some_other_condition and
some_final_condition):
play_bingo()
[...]
is there a
"Python code can be packaged into stand-alone executable programs for
some of the most popular operating systems, allowing the distribution of
Python-based software for use on those environments without requiring
the installation of a Python interpreter." (wikipedia)
How correct is that? Which
Am 02.03.16 um 09:20 schrieb Marko Rauhamaa:
Chris Angelico :
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I was talking about JSON for the standard I/O, not the command-line
arguments, as in:
ps -ef | awk '/httpd/ { print $2 }'
where "ps -ef" emits SPC-separated fields and LF-
On 2016-03-02, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Jon Ribbens
> wrote:
>> On 2016-03-02, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> You're no more vulnerable looking at one of those listings
>>> than you would be going to a web site entirely controlled by the
>>> attacker, save that (particul
Ethan Furman :
> No, it isn't. Using '\' for line continuation is strongly discouraged.
Why would you discourage valid syntax?
Marko
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crankypuss writes:
> "Python code can be packaged into stand-alone executable programs for
> some of the most popular operating systems, allowing the distribution of
> Python-based software for use on those environments without requiring
> the installation of a Python interpreter." (wikipedia)
Christian Gollwitzer :
> Have a look at PowerShell. It's not Python, and it is from MS - but it
> works along those lines, passing .NET objects through the pipe. Owing
> to that, instead of $2=="something" in the awk progra, you can address
> the field(attribute) $2 by the correct name instead of
Thanks for the replies, folks. I'll provide a single response:
1. Using backslash to continue... When I first started using Python in
the mid-90s I don't recall that parenthesized expressions could be
continued across lines (at least, not in all contexts), so the
backslash was required. I believe
On 03/02/2016 02:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Ethan Furman :
No, it isn't. Using '\' for line continuation is strongly discouraged.
Why would you discourage valid syntax?
1) It's ugly
2) Any non-newline whitespace after the '\' and you don't have line
continuation any more, and no visib
On 02/03/2016 21:52, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Are we discussing UK (highly generalised), Geordie, Glaswegian, US,
Canadian, South African, Australian, New Zealand, or some other form of
English?
Is there any disagreement among them about the w
On 03/02/2016 02:44 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
I don't know. Maybe I need to ask the flake8 author about his
rationale for this message. It seems to me from my experience with the
language that this particular message is going against pretty common
practice. Does vim's Python mode exhibit similar
Is there a way to prevent the dialog from displaying hidden
directories? My research has not found anything relating
to hidden files or directories.
--
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"Philosophy is common sense with big words."
-James Madison
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On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:35:32 AM UTC-8, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote:
> Terry Reedy at 2016/3/2 UTC+8 3:04:10PM wrote：
> > On 3/1/2016 9:35 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote:
> > > Recently I was puzzled by a tkinter problem. The codes below (from a
> > > book) can display the picture correctly
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Ethan Furman :
>
>> No, it isn't. Using '\' for line continuation is strongly discouraged.
>
> Why would you discourage valid syntax?
>
Isn't that exactly the point of style guides? They stipulate/encourage
a particular subset of valid synt
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>
> if (some_condition and
> some_other_condition and
> some_final_condition):
> play_bingo()
How about:
continue_playing = (
some_condition and
some_other_condition and
some_fi
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>
>> if (some_condition and
>> some_other_condition and
>> some_final_condition):
>> play_bingo()
>
> How about:
>
> continue_playing = (
> some_co
On 03/02/2016 04:54 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>
>>> if (some_condition and
>>> some_other_condition and
>>> some_final_condition):
>>> play_bingo()
>>
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>
>>> if (some_condition and
>>> some_other_condition and
>>> some_final_condition):
>>> play_bingo()
>>
>> How about:
>>
>>
(Igor, your “From” field doesn't contain a name for you. Can you put
your name, e.g. “Igor Whateverisyoursurname”, in the “From” field?)
codewiz...@gmail.com writes:
> How about:
>
> continue_playing = (
> some_condition and
> some_other_condition and
> some_final_condition
>
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 3:22:42 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> > Are we discussing UK (highly generalised), Geordie, Glaswegian, US,
> > Canadian, South African, Australian, New Zealand, or some other form of
> > English?
>
> Is t
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 05:12 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano :
>
>> In this case, "same object" carries the normal English meaning of
>> "same" and the normal computer science meaning of "object" in the
>> sense of "Object Oriented Programming". There's no mystery here, no
>> circular def
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 08:49 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 02/03/2016 17:23, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 01:11 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
>>> What is missing is the rules that are obeyed by the "is" operator.
>>
>> I think what is actually missing is some common bloody sense. The Py
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 09:10 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Ethan Furman :
>
>> No, it isn't. Using '\' for line continuation is strongly discouraged.
>
> Why would you discourage valid syntax?
Because it is error-prone and ugly.
This is valid syntax too. Do you write your code like this?
x
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 11:02 am, Carl Meyer wrote:
> On 03/02/2016 04:54 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM, wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Skip Montanaro wrote:
if (some_condition and
some_other_condition and
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight
> to be the weight of the universe?
Is that a trick question?
"How is a raven like a writing desk?"
"Neither of them are made of cheese cake."
We can be absolutely certain t
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> If you only use "continue_playing" in exactly one place, then it
> doesn't deserve a name.
I disagree. If it's complex, then it may still deserve a name.
> > Names are important!
>
> Too important to waste on every single-use expression.
To waste on *every* single-use
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> If your functions are so long that you fear using a specific name will
> deter you from using it again *in the same scope*, then the name isn't
> descriptive and a better one should be chosen, or the function is too
> large and should be broken i
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> We can be absolutely certain that Kenneth weighs less than the entire
> universe. We don't even need a set of scales.
Formal proof:
1) No physical object can have negative mass.
2) I am a part of the universe and have positive mass.
3) I a
sohca...@gmail.com at 2016/3/3 UTC+8 7:38:45AM wrote:
> "label" might be a local variable, but it's constructor includes a reference
> to the frame in which it is going. The frame object will create a reference
> to the newly-created Label object. At that point, there will be two
> references
On 3/2/2016 10:22 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 12:23:02 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:42 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Is import needed at all when trying out in Idle?
...
So it does appear that
1. import not necessary with(in) idle
2. However import and f5 (
On 03/02/2016 06:33 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It's not just name collisions. You should be able to keep in your head
every local name in a section of code. Giving a name to a single-use
expression wastes one of those precious slots in your mind, even if
it's easily and safely unique.
If it's a
On 2016-03-03 08:29, Ben Finney wrote:
> Skip Montanaro writes:
>> Running flake8 over some code which has if statements with
>> multiple conditions like this:
>>
>> if (some_condition and
>> some_other_condition and
>> some_final_condition):
>> play_bingo()
>
> For th
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:59:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight
> > to be the weight of the universe?
>
> Is that a trick question?
>
> "How is a raven like a
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 8:11:20 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 3/2/2016 10:22 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 12:23:02 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> >> On 2/29/2016 7:42 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is import needed at all when trying out in Idle?
> >> .
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 9:38:11 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 8:11:20 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > On 3/2/2016 10:22 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 12:23:02 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > >> On 2/29/2016 7:42 AM, Rustom
Is it possible to embed CPython in CPython, e.g. using ctypes, cffi, or cython?
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Denis Akhiyarov writes:
> Is it possible to embed CPython in CPython, e.g. using ctypes, cffi,
> or cython?
I don't know what you mean by “embed” in this context. What would
qualify as “yes” for you?
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Ben Finney writes:
> Denis Akhiyarov writes:
>
> > Is it possible to embed CPython in CPython, e.g. using ctypes, cffi,
> > or cython?
>
> I don't know what you mean by “embed” in this context. What would
> qualify as “yes” for you?
Here is CPython embedded in CPython::
>>> import subproce
Embed using C-API from ctypes, cffi or cython, but not using subprocesses.
Thanks for asking!
Here is link to official documentation about embedding:
https://docs.python.org/3.6/extending/index.html
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Denis Akhiyarov writes:
> Embed using C-API from ctypes, cffi or cython, but not using
> subprocesses. Thanks for asking!
I'm glad you appreciate my asking, but I am no closer to an answer. What
would meet your requirements, what would be a “yes” for you?
> Here is link to official documentatio
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:13:58 AM UTC+5:30, Denis Akhiyarov wrote:
> Embed using C-API from ctypes, cffi or cython, but not using subprocesses.
> Thanks for asking!
>
> Here is link to official documentation about embedding:
>
> https://docs.python.org/3.6/extending/index.html
Nowadays
Ben Finney writes:
> I'm familiar with that document. It doesn't help me understand what you
> mean by “embed CPython in CPython”.
It seems straightforward enough to me. Lots of Python programs load C
extensions. Denis is asking whether one of those C extensions could
itself embed CPython throu
On Mar 2, 2016 9:01 PM, "Rustom Mody" wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:59:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >
> > > And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight
> > > to be the weight of the universe?
> >
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 23:29:43 +
Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 29/02/2016 22:40, Larry Martell wrote:
>> I think for the most part, the mental health industry is most
>> interested in pushing drugs and forcing people into some status quo.
> I am disgusted by your comments. I'll keep my original
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