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On 10/13/15 00:52, Anthony Papillion wrote:
>> Check out the email.parser module, or the convenience function
>> > email.message_from_string - you should be able to get at the
>> > different parts (including attachments) from there.
>> >
> Many th
On Oct 13, 2015 2:11 AM, "Steven D'Aprano" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:20 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
> > As for managing complexity, many people believe static typing is a
> > crucial tool. I disagree. Static typing adds vast amounts of noise to
> > the code.
>
> Only if you are stuck in th
W dniu 13.10.2015 o 03:35, Michael Torrie pisze:
> On 10/12/2015 06:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> > Where is the "vast amounts of noise" added to the code?
> Well in Java code for one. No wonder they require auto-completion.
> Java class-based namespaces must be a nightmare to work with.
IMHO
I'm sending you this email, as I'm having problems trying to install and use
Python.
I've been tryng to install Python on one System :
HP Intel Core 2 Duo 4300, 1,8 GHz
2 Gb RAM
Windows XP Professional SP 3
And I've got the following screens, with no visible Command Buttons. I've
been ab
Hi Cinto,
Python 3.5 does not work on Windows XP. Can you use Python 3.4 instead?
Best,
Mathew Carrick
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Cinto Llach wrote:
> I’m sending you this email, as I’m having problems trying to install and
> use Python.
>
>
>
> I’ve been tryng to install Python on one
In a message of Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:58:40 -0600, Ian Kelly writes:
>Just saying that it doesn't work doesn't help us help you. What
>precisely have you tried, and what was the error that you got when you
>tried it?
What Ian said. Also what python version are you using and what OS?
Laura
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In a message of Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:35:57 -0600, Michael Torrie writes:
>On 10/12/2015 06:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Where is the "vast amounts of noise" added to the code?
>
>Well in Java code for one. No wonder they require auto-completion.
>Java class-based namespaces must be a nightmare
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On October 13, 2015 2:04:09 AM CDT, Burak Arslan
wrote:
>
>
>On 10/13/15 00:52, Anthony Papillion wrote:
>>> Check out the email.parser module, or the convenience function
>>> > email.message_from_string - you should be able to get at the
>>> > d
[This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group
meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany]
ANKÜNDIGUNG
Python Meeting Düsseldorf
http://pyddf.de/
Ein Treffen
I have a package that defines a variety of collections based on the ABCs
provided by collections.abc (Mapping, Sequence, etc). I wanted to take
advantage of the type hinting facilities introduced in Python 3.5, and I'm
having doubts as to what would be the best way to go about it.
Lets take one of
Laura Creighton :
> When Design Patterns were new, the 2 of the first books to come out
> were 'Design Patterns'[1995] which was C++ focused, and the 'Design
> Patterns Smalltalk Companion'[1998]. If you read the two of them, side
> by side (as DPSTC asks you to) you will be struct by how little o
re-reading what I wrote after Marko quoted it, I see an
unacceptable level of typos and other sentence structure
errors. I have eyedrops in my eyes today. I really cannot
read what I type well enough.
Amusing that my fingers find 'struct' a more reasonable thing to
type than 'struck', (to me
import time
#this is so that i can set a timer
print ("only print numbers as your answers (Round all numbers up): ")
time.sleep(2)
#this is to let the person know what format to write it in#
answer = input ("enter the height of the room walls between 2 to 6 metres: ")
#this is the first input t
Hello there,
I'm interesting for the embeding of Python code - the examples and docs are
very helpfully. The main code, which embeds the Python interpreter, had
written in C. There are several functions, what I have to use in embedded
(Python) code, so I must to write them as Python extension.
Th
import time
#this is so that i can set a timer
print ("only print numbers as your answers (Round all numbers up): ")
time.sleep(2)
#this is to let the person know what format to write it in#
answer = input ("enter the height of the room walls between 2 to 6 metres: ")
#this is the first input t
On 13/10/2015 11:42, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
A few years back I programmed in Java. I literally had to write (or
generate) 2,000 lines of code to satisfy the structural requirements
(interfaces, method stubs, javadocs, ...) before the code actually did
anything.
And this is the recommended langu
Are you looking for this:?
https://docs.python.org/3.5/library/runpy.html
or maybe this:?
https://docs.python.org/3.5/library/importlib.html#importlib.import_module
Or is your real problem 'I don't have a filesystem'?
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:31:56 +0100, Bartc writes:
>On 13/10/2015 11:42, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>> A few years back I programmed in Java. I literally had to write (or
>> generate) 2,000 lines of code to satisfy the structural requirements
>> (interfaces, method stubs, javadocs, ...) be
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:55 pm, Todd wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2015 2:11 AM, "Steven D'Aprano" wrote:
>> Consider the following piece of code:
>>
>> def addone(x):
>> return x + 1
>>
>>
>> The human programmer reading that can trivially infer that x must be a
>> number (or at least something which s
In Python 3, comparisons between arbitrary types raise TypeError:
py> None < 2
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
TypeError: unorderable types: NoneType() < int()
In Python 2, that same comparison will arbitrarily return True or False,
according to some implementation-depe
On Oct 13, 2015 7:48 AM, "Steven D'Aprano" wrote:
>
> In Python 3, comparisons between arbitrary types raise TypeError:
>
> py> None < 2
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> TypeError: unorderable types: NoneType() < int()
>
>
> In Python 2, that same comparison will arb
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 02:51:21PM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote:
> Are you looking for this:?
> https://docs.python.org/3.5/library/runpy.html
I think I'm not - I'm afraid, the runpy modul wasn't developed
for me, for this reason.
> or maybe this:?
> https://docs.python.org/3.5/library/impo
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
> no, I have filesystem. I help to contribute a software, which had
> written in C. The configuration schema is very simple, there are
> several keywords, but not all required function could be
> configure with them. Python would be a good choi
Ian Kelly writes:
> You couldn't do this with a __future__ import because those must be
> confined to the importing module and are therefore generally limited
> to syntax changes.
In principle, it could be a syntax change to the < operator (etc) to
cause it to try to call a different method first
Hi Chris,
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:05:43AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
> > no, I have filesystem. I help to contribute a software, which had
> > written in C. The configuration schema is very simple, there are
> > several keywords, but no
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
>>
>> Sounds to me like the easiest way would be to inject into the
>> builtins. You should be able to import the builtins module from your C
>> code, and then stuff some extra attributes into it; they'll be
>> automatically available to the sc
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Random832 wrote:
> Ian Kelly writes:
>> You couldn't do this with a __future__ import because those must be
>> confined to the importing module and are therefore generally limited
>> to syntax changes.
>
> In principle, it could be a syntax change to the < operato
On 10/13/2015 8:29 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:05:43AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
Sounds to me like the easiest way would be to inject into the
builtins. You should be able to import the builtins module from your C
code, and then stuff some extra attributes
Hi Glenn,
Welcome to the community and thank you for creating this module. It's great
you want to get this going in Python (3?).
A couple of things:
1) I looked at the github repo. You do not have anything to be deployed there.
Actually, that repo has nothing to do with python as of yet, as
Forgot to mention. you might want to take a look at numpy and pandas for their
structures.
https://github.com/numpy/numpy
https://github.com/pydata/pandas
I always find it easier to look at something concrete.
Ivan
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Am 13.10.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Ben Finney:
Sibylle Koczian writes:
Am 12.10.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
Auto-complete is a fine and useful tool. But if you are crippled as a
programmer without it, well, then you can hardly claim to understand the
language or framework you are progr
Hi
I am working on python 2.x for long time.
I thought of testing python 3.5 for possible usage.
The problem is that when I installed python 3.5, all the pip installs are
directing to python 3.5, instead of my native python 2.7.
I heard of a feature called pylauancher; but I didn't find any sa
On Oct 13, 2015 1:16 PM, "Uday Pethakamsetty"
wrote:
> The problem is that when I installed python 3.5, all the pip installs are
directing to python 3.5, instead of my native python 2.7.
>
Probably, this is because the Python 3 directories appears first in the
PATH variable.
Python 3 has venv.
Hi Uday,
Pip should support using the pip{version} command to install
version-specific packages. Try using pip2.7 to install 2.7 packages.
Best,
Mathew Carrick
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Uday Pethakamsetty <
uday.pethakamse...@infor.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> I am working on python 2.x for
In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:28:29 -0600, paul.hermeneu...@gmail.com wri
tes:
>On Oct 13, 2015 1:16 PM, "Uday Pethakamsetty"
>wrote:
>
>> The problem is that when I installed python 3.5, all the pip installs are
>directing to python 3.5, instead of my native python 2.7.
>>
>
>Probably, this
Hi Chris,
what I misses: currently I'm using Python 2.7.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:48:57AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
> >>
> >> Sounds to me like the easiest way would be to inject into the
> >> builtins. You should be able to import the
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 08:55:42AM -0700, Emile van Sebille wrote:
> On 10/13/2015 8:29 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:05:43AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> >>Sounds to me like the easiest way would be to inject into the
> >>builtins. You should be
On 10/13/2015 1:32 PM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 08:55:42AM -0700, Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 10/13/2015 8:29 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:05:43AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
Sounds to me like the easiest way would be to inject into
In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:28:54 +0200, Ervin Hegedüs writes:
>Hi Chris,
>
>what I misses: currently I'm using Python 2.7.
>
>On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:48:57AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like the easiest
Ben Finney wrote:
* The overwhelming majority of .NET and Java programmers would feel
crippled without auto-complete. (assertion made by Sibylle)
An obvious resolution is to conclude that the
overwhelming majority of Java and .NET programmers cannot claim to
understand those technologies.
A
Bartc wrote:
I've surprised Basic needs it. The last time I looked, $A was a string,
%B an integer, and C a number.
A$ and B%, actually.
Although if you didn't like the type suffixes, you
could say DEFINT I-N and pretend you were writing
Fortran code. :-)
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m wrote:
W dniu 13.10.2015 o 03:35, Michael Torrie pisze:
Well in Java code for one. No wonder they require auto-completion.
Java class-based namespaces must be a nightmare to work with.
IMHO mainly because their naming convention. They just love typing long
names.
The biggest verbosity p
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> what I misses: currently I'm using Python 2.7.
Oh, sorry. In that case, you'll be importing "__builtin__" rather than
"builtins", but the same technique works.
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:48:57AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:52:32 PM UTC-4, Sibylle Koczian wrote:
> Am 13.10.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Ben Finney:
> > Sibylle Koczian <> writes:
> >
> >> Am 12.10.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
> >>> Auto-complete is a fine and useful tool. But if you are crippled as a
> >>> programmer
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 9:40:56 AM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:55 pm, Todd wrote:
>
> > On Oct 13, 2015 2:11 AM, "Steven D'Aprano" <...> wrote:
>
> >> Consider the following piece of code:
> >>
> >> def addone(x):
> >> return x + 1
> >>
> >>
> >> The human p
On 10/13/2015 9:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
In Python 3, comparisons between arbitrary types raise TypeError:
py> None < 2
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
TypeError: unorderable types: NoneType() < int()
In Python 2, that same comparison will arbitrarily return Tru
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Uday Pethakamsetty
wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am working on python 2.x for long time.
>
> I thought of testing python 3.5 for possible usage.
>
> The problem is that when I installed python 3.5, all the pip installs are
> directing to python 3.5, instead of my native python
Marcos Dione writes:
> ...
> My problem is modifying the
> locals ...
In Python 2.7, I succeeded with the following code:
>>> def f():
... x = 1
... exec('x=2')
... return x
...
>>> f()
2
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:02:36AM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:28:54 +0200, Ervin Hegedüs writes:
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >what I misses: currently I'm using Python 2.7.
> >
> >On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:48:57AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
[...]
> >
> >PyModule_
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