Re: XML Binding

2015-09-04 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi, On 03/09/2015 21:54, Burak Arslan wrote: Hello, On 09/03/15 19:54, Palpandi wrote: Hi All, Is there any module available in python standard library for XML binding? If not, any other suggestions. lxml is the right xml library to use. You can use lxml's objectify or Spyne. I second lx

Re: Reading \n unescaped from a file

2015-09-04 Thread Friedrich Rentsch
My response was meant for the list, but went to Peter by mistake. So I repeat it with some delay: On 09/03/2015 04:24 PM, Peter Otten wrote: Friedrich Rentsch wrote: On 09/03/2015 11:24 AM, Peter Otten wrote: Friedrich Rentsch wrote: I appreciate your identifying two mistakes. I am curious

Python Package installation causing [Error 13] Permission Denied on Windows 7

2015-09-04 Thread moinakb
I am running Python 3.4 on Windows 7 and is facing [Error 13] Permission Denied while installing Python packages such as SciPy, NumPy etc; here are the facts that I tried but failed: 1. I have admin privileges in my machine 2. The folder where pip/easy_install copies contents have full

Re: Python Package installation causing [Error 13] Permission Denied on Windows 7

2015-09-04 Thread Laura Creighton
Over in the physics lab we have a big sign, which (translated) says: 'For windows 7, it is not enough to _be_ an admininstrator to install packages. When opening up the command prompt you also have to select the 'run as administrator' option.' No windows system here to test, but maybe this is y

Re: Python Package installation causing [Error 13] Permission Denied on Windows 7

2015-09-04 Thread moinakb
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 3:07:19 PM UTC+5:30, moi...@gmail.com wrote: > I am running Python 3.4 on Windows 7 and is facing [Error 13] Permission > Denied while installing Python packages such as SciPy, NumPy etc; here are > the facts that I tried but failed: > 1.I have admin privileges

Permission denied error in download nltk_data...

2015-09-04 Thread Dwight GoldWinde
Please helpŠ(my apologizesŠI got a response to this before, but I CANNOT find it now)Š Using this code: import nltk nltk.download('maxent_treebank_pos_tagger¹) I get this error: [nltk_data] Downloading package maxent_treebank_pos_tagger to [nltk_data] /Users/dwightgoldwindex/nltk_data... T

Re: Permission denied error in download nltk_data...

2015-09-04 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:50:11 +0800, Dwight GoldWinde writes: >Please helpŠ(my apologizesŠI got a response to this before, but I CANNOT >find it now)Š https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2015-August/695546.html Laura -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Permission denied error in download nltk_data...

2015-09-04 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:50:11 +0800, Dwight GoldWinde writes: >>Please helpŠ(my apologizesŠI got a response to this before, but I CANNOT >>find it now)Š > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2015-August/695546.html >

Re: Porting Python Application to a new linux machine

2015-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-09-04, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 03.09.15 um 16:32 schrieb Heli Nix: > >> I have my python scripts that use several python libraries such as >> h5py, pyside, numpy >> >> In Windows I have an installer that will install python locally on >> user machine and so my program gets acc

Re: packing unpacking depends on order.

2015-09-04 Thread Sven R. Kunze
On 04.09.2015 05:36, random...@fastmail.us wrote: You haven't demonstrated that the RHS is affected by anything. The sample code in the original post of this thread behaves identically if the RHS is a simple tuple of (2, 1) [or (1, 2)] respectively. If you have another sample that shows differe

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Chris Warrick
On 4 September 2015 at 15:14, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 04:27:47 +0100, Mark Lawrence > declaimed the following: > > >>python3 just doesn't exist on Windows, it's always python.exe or > > Really? > > [snip] > 09/17/2013 12:37 AM40,448 python.exe > 09/17/20

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 5:20:17 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote: > Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip is cont ained in Python > 3.4. But I am having the most extreme problems with simply typing "pip" into > my command prompt and then getting back the normal information on

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Cody Piersall
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Steve Burrus wrote: > > Well I think that this is a Win 10 "thing" befcause using previous versions of Windows all I had to do was to type in "pip" to get the pip info. but now apparently it's "python -m pip". Can someone please "set me straight" about the path I

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:12:23 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 04/09/2015 02:04, Steve Burrus wrote: > > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 7:06:27 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> On 03/09/2015 23:20, Steve Burrus wrote: > >>> Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Nick Sarbicki
In the cmd "echo %path%" and send us the output. Also try to run "pip" as opposed to "python -m pip". Nick. On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 17:41 Steve Burrus wrote: > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:12:23 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > On 04/09/2015 02:04, Steve Burrus wrote: > > > On Thursday, S

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread tdev
Before responding (later) I have to add something additional first: Cause of complaints and while still exists and again and again: When I mentioned maybe OO first than for also this reason cause Python is a powerful language and supports procedural and OO features and many more. And cause a

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Cody Piersall
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Steve Burrus wrote: > I mcan assure you that the Scripts folder is in both my Users and the System path! I even haVE the folder "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\django\bin" in the Path. But I still cannot simply type out "pip" without getti ng the usual error message

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Cody Piersall
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: > > "C:\Python34\Tools\Scripts>python checkpip.py > The latest version of setuptools on PyPI is 18.2, but ensurepip has 12.0.5 > The latest version of pip on PyPI is 7.1.2, but ensurepip has 6.0.8" > > I ran this pythpon file, checkpip.py, and g

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Cody Piersall
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: > > "Do you have pip.exe in C:\Python34\Scripts?" well I remember seeing it in thar folder the other day but not now! D oes this mean I have to re-install python or just pip? Please respond to the list as well as the person you're actually talk

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Sven R. Kunze
On 04.09.2015 18:55, t...@freenet.de wrote: From knowing e.g Java as OO language I had no need to set such a keyword "global" to get write access to class members. It is true and I really dislike Java for having this. Please consider this class MyClass: @classmethod def method(cls):at

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread tdev
Now I want reflecting the latest answers: I think mostly everything is said. Maybe you skip directly to my conclusion on the end. -- Nevertheless I want grasp some points out where I think I could give a respective answer: "You are shifting declaration from one to another place" I would n

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, wrote: > 6- "include" script statement (extending namespace to another script, like > PHP) def include(filename): exec(open(filename).read()) > Last but not least: > Why does javascript, as sripting language too, need not such things like > a keyword "global

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, wrote: >> 6- "include" script statement (extending namespace to another script, like >> PHP) > > def include(filename): > exec(open(filename).read()) Sorry, that doesn't work because it takes locals from the

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 04/09/2015 17:04, Steve Burrus wrote: On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 5:20:17 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote: Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip is cont ained in Python 3.4. But I am having the most extreme problems with simply typing "pip" into my command prompt and then

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 04/09/2015 17:44, Nick Sarbicki wrote: In the cmd "echo %path%" and send us the output. Also try to run "pip" as opposed to "python -m pip". Nick. Will you please stop top posting, it's driving me nuts, thank you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask wh

Accumulating points in batch for sending off

2015-09-04 Thread Victor Hooi
Hi, I'm using Python to parse out metrics from logfiles, and ship them off to a database called InfluxDB, using their Python driver (https://github.com/influxdb/influxdb-python). With InfluxDB, it's more efficient if you pack in more points into each message. Hence, I'm using the grouper() re

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Vladimir Ignatov
> To me, marking a variable as global in a large number of functions is > a code smell that indicates that you're probably overusing globals. > Lua is an example of a language that takes the opposite approach: in > Lua, every variable is global unless you explicitly mark it as local. > Lua is a fin

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 5:11 AM, wrote: > 1. optional keyword "global" (if technical possible) As we've been saying in this thread, the problem isn't the technicalities of implementation, but the ambiguity of syntax. To eliminate the global statement, you need to either (a) declare all your globa

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Rob Hills
On 05/09/15 01:47, Cody Piersall wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Steve Burrus > mailto:steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote: > <..> > >> "echo %path% > >> > >> C:\Python34;C:\Python34\python.exe;C:\Python34\Scripts; It's a long time since I last used Windoze in anger, but that second path e

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread MRAB
On 2015-09-05 01:35, Rob Hills wrote: On 05/09/15 01:47, Cody Piersall wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Steve Burrus mailto:steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote: <..> >> "echo %path% >> >> C:\Python34;C:\Python34\python.exe;C:\Python34\Scripts; It's a long time since I last used Windoze

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/04/2015 06:27 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > If you want the first one, well, there are languages like that, and > you're welcome to use those. For the latter, it's easy enough to do > something like this: > > import types > _g = types.SimpleNamespace() > > def accumulate(x): > _g.accum +=

Re: Python handles globals badly.

2015-09-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 09/04/2015 06:27 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> If you want the first one, well, there are languages like that, and >> you're welcome to use those. For the latter, it's easy enough to do >> something like this: >> >> import types >> _g = ty

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Rob Hills
On 05/09/15 08:55, MRAB wrote: > On 2015-09-05 01:35, Rob Hills wrote: >> On 05/09/15 01:47, Cody Piersall wrote: >>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Steve Burrus >>> mailto:steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >> <..> >>> >> "echo %path% >>> >> >>> >> C:\Python34;C:\Python34\python.exe;C:\Pytho

Re: Hello

2015-09-04 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:37:04 AM UTC+5:30, Phuong Phan wrote: > Hi Python community, Hi Phuong Phan > I am new to Python and currently taking one online course of computer science > and programming using Python. I really like Python because it is simple and > clarity but powerful t

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 9:20:14 PM UTC-5, Rob Hills wrote: > On 05/09/15 08:55, MRAB wrote: > > On 2015-09-05 01:35, Rob Hills wrote: > >> On 05/09/15 01:47, Cody Piersall wrote: > >>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Steve Burrus > >>> mailto:steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>> > >> <

Program in or into (was Python handles globals badly)

2015-09-04 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:24:47 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > Indeed. The key to being a good programmer is not "write your code > despite the language you're using", but "write the code in the > language you're using". > A thought experiment for you Chris! Here's mergesort writ

Re: Program in or into (was Python handles globals badly)

2015-09-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > Now the thought experiment: > > For some reason you need to code in C# > [You need to do this part of the experiment honestly!!] > > Would you write the C# code? > Or would you write the python-ish code in C# ? As I'm not familiar with C#, I'd

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread eryksun
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Steve Burrus wrote: > > "C:\Users\SteveB>py -m pip > Job information querying failed You're using build 10074, an old build of Windows 10 that had a buggy Job object API. This was fixed in build 10159: http://bugs.python.org/issue24127 FYI, the py launcher runs

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread eryksun
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: > so what is my hopefully sinple solution anyway? i do n't see myself anytime > soon getting off of Build 10074 of Win 10. Script wrappers such as pip.exe are simple versions of the py launcher that execute an embedded script. For example, here'

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
Well actually pip [at least a foolder called pip] is in the "C:\lib\site-packages" folder but not in any Scripts folder. Should it be in the Scripts folder? On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Cody Piersall wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Steve Burrus > wrote: > > > > "Do you have pip

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
*so what is my hopefully sinple solution anyway? i do n't see myself anytime soon getting off of Build 10074 of Win 10. i don't have pip in the Scripts folder where I was told it should be. I was thinking of doing a complete disinstall/reinstall of Python 3.4 to see if that helps. * *On Fri, Sep

Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread eryksun
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: > well everyone there must be sometjhing about upgrading Python up to version > 3.5 rc > because everything works just fine now, beyond my wildest dreams! I am even > able > now to type in "pip" and get the usual info. on it and I have connect