On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
character), and switch back?
... very fast.
Is not this nicer?
>>> Π = pi
>>>
>>> sin(Π/4)
0.7071067811865475
>>>
>>> cos(Π/4)
0.7071067811865476
>>>
my pdeclib constants exte
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:38:43 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > Its already there -- and even easier
> > Switch to cyrillic-jis-russian (whatever that is!)
> > and I get л from k Л from K
> How quickly can you switch, type one letter
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
>> character), and switch back?
>
>
> ... very fast.
>
> Is not this nicer?
>
Π = pi
sin(Π/4)
> 0.70710678118
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:57:19 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Can you imagine a high level language without a simple notation for
> variable assignment? Certainly not.
I don't know... what a stack based or concatenative language like Forth,
Postscript, Joy or Factor count as high-level?
I'm prett
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:44:42 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
> On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
> > character), and switch back?
> ... very fast.
> Is not this nicer?
> >>> Π = pi
> >>> sin(Π/4)
> 0
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> So let me talk of which input methods I use -- devanagari and tex.
> I have devanagari-itrans set up in emacs as default (other) input method
> So Ctrl-\ (ie 1½ keystrokes) puts emacs into devanagari mode
Yes, but putting emacs into a differen
On 3/25/14 12:27 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
my pdeclib constants extension will have alternate spellings for Π and Γ
and Δ and others...
That's good! (Although typing Π quicker than pi is majorly pushing it.
Well, I'll tell ya, its exactly the same--- two key-strokes, believe it
or not.
On 3/25/14 12:28 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
π = pi
sin(π/4)
0.7071067811865475
cos(π/4)
0.7071067811865476
Looks better in emacs
Input with tex mode -- 1 char to switch
slightly verbose to type -- \pi gives π \Pi gives Π
Whoohoo... yes, way more betterer/
:)
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> On Monday, March 17, 2014 6:36:33 PM UTC+5:30, Frank Millman wrote:
>> Hi all
>
>> I know I *should* be using a Source Control Management system, but at
>> present I am not. I tried to set up Mercurial
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:57:19 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Can you imagine a high level language without a simple notation for
>> variable assignment? Certainly not.
>
> I don't know... what a stack based or concatenative language like
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:04:40 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
> On 3/25/14 12:27 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> my pdeclib constants extension will have alternate spellings for Π and
> >> Γ
> >> and Δ and others...
> > That's good! (Although typing Π quicker than pi is majorly pushing
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> Because the character selector is up on the gui (for me, far left) and the
> two strokes are {mouse click the Π } and {mouse click the insert}; rather
> than {p} {i} . There is of course a brief time-lag because my right hand
> has to move t
On 3/25/14 12:42 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
You are not counting mouse
For an emacs user
Looking at mouse counts as 3 keystrokes
ha! I would not be surprised that just "thinking" about the mouse
might be worth 3 key-strokes for an emacs user!
I use vi all the time; emacs less; depends on the
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:57:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Rustom Mody
> wrote:
>> What you are missing is that programmers spend 90% of their time
>> reading code
>> 10% writing code
>>
>> You may well be in the super-whiz category (not being sarcastic here)
>>
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> You are not counting mouse
> For an emacs user
> Looking at mouse counts as 3 keystrokes
> Touching is more like 5-8
> https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/effective-emacs
I think the cost of the mouse varies according to technology. I'm
On 3/25/14 12:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Yup. Welcome to timezones. I'm UTC +11 here, although we'll drop back
to +10 shortly as DST finishes (yay!). It's currently 0547 UTC, so
you're presumably five hours behind UTC, which would put you east
coast USA, most likely. (Especially since your mail
On 3/25/14 12:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
(Especially since your mailer is putting the
dates as mm/dd/yy, which is an abomination peculiar to Americans.)
I did not know that; so is 25 Mar 2014 the preferred way?
marcus
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:19:50 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Mark H Harris
> wrote:
>> I personally think the answer is extended key maps triggered by meta
>> keys shift ctrl opt alt command | which call up full alternate
>> mappings of Greek|Latin|Math|symbols &c
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:14:42 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
>> character), and switch back?
>
> ... very fast.
>
> Is not this nicer?
>
> >>> Π = pi
That's the product operato
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:57:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> No, I'm not missing that. But the human brain is a tokenizer, just as
>> Python is. Once you know what a token means, you comprehend it as that
>> token, and it takes up space in
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:17:51 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:57:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > wrote:
> >> What you are missing is that programmers spend 90% of their time
> >> reading code
> >> 10% writing code
> >> You may well be in the super-whiz catego
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/25/14 12:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> Yup. Welcome to timezones. I'm UTC +11 here, although we'll drop back
>> to +10 shortly as DST finishes (yay!). It's currently 0547 UTC, so
>> you're presumably five hours behind UTC, which wou
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:44:37 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/24/14 6:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Easy fix. Use the "explicit capture" notation:
>
>> adders[n] = lambda a, n=n: a+n
>
>> And there you are, out of your difficulty at once!
>
> Yes, yes, yes, and example:
>
> adder
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:58:11 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Mark H Harris
> wrote:
>>Aside from the sin of spelling out "lambda,"
>> should be ( \x y -> x + y ) a b ) but, neither here nor
>> there...
>
> Well no, it *should* be λx y . x + y but app
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> I can get up a character map on any platform fairly easily, and if not,
>> I can always Google the name of the character I want and copy and paste
>> from fileformat.info or some other handy site. It's not that hard. But
>> if I want to sa
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:16:15 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/24/14 7:11 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Mark H Harris
>> wrote:
>>> What is needed is the explicit closure "grab" recommended by ChrisA.
>>
>> Which does work. You do know why, right?
>
> Sure. ...
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Something that Chris may relate to:
>
> You type a music score into lilypond
> Then call lilypond to convert it into standard western staff notation
>
> Why not put up the lilypond (ASCII) directly on the piano/organ when you play?
>
> This is
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:42:50 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:57:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> No, I'm not missing that. But the human brain is a tokenizer, just as
> >> Python is. Once you know wha
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:03:24 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > Something that Chris may relate to:
> > You type a music score into lilypond
> > Then call lilypond to convert it into standard western staff notation
> > Why not put up
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> I dont think we are anywhere near making real suggestions for real changes
> which would need to talk of compatibility, portability, editor support
> and all such other good stuff.
>
> Just a bit of brainstorming to see how an alternative pytho
On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
character), and switch back?
Ok.. after installing Ukelete from Summer Institute of Linguistics SIL I
can now edit the installed keymaps and select them from input sources at
the t
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> ALl of which is isomorphic to Steven's point that forty is less
> eyeballable than 40
>
> And mine that ∅ is more eyeballable than set([])
I don't disagree that it is; the short tokens are easier to read in
quantity. I just don't think that it
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:15:11 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > I dont think we are anywhere near making real suggestions for real changes
> > which would need to talk of compatibility, portability, editor support
> > and all such oth
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:39:33 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/24/14 8:20 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> On 3/24/2014 7:56 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
>
>>> the list which is used for each of the adder[] functions created.
>>
>> Wrong. Functions look up global and nonlocal names, such as n, when the
>>
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