Re: python to enable javascript , tried selinium, ghost, pyQt4 already

2014-01-19 Thread Giorgos Tzampanakis
On 2014-01-18, Jaiprakash Singh wrote: > hi, > > can you please suggest me some method for study so that i can > scrap a site having JavaScript behind it > > > i have tried selenium, ghost, pyQt4, but it is slow and as a am > working with thread it sinks my ram memory very fast. I

Re: graphical python

2014-01-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:40 PM, buck wrote: > I'm trying to work through Skienna's algorithms handbook, and note that the > author often uses graphical representations of the diagrams to help > understand (and even debug) the algorithms. I'd like to reproduce this in > python. > > How would y

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:29:58 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > > Because these two pieces of code > def foo(x): print x+1 > def bar(x): return x+1 > > look identical (to a beginner at least) > foo(3) > > 4 > bar(3)

Re: Python declarative

2014-01-19 Thread sertorbe
El miércoles, 15 de enero de 2014 18:02:08 UTC+1, Sergio Tortosa Benedito escribió: > Hi I'm developing a sort of language extension for writing GUI programs > > called guilang, right now it's written in Lua but I'm considreing Python > > instead (because it's more tailored to alone application

python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Asaf Las
Hi Community Is there ported to Python v3 python-daemon package? https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-daemon/ i am afraid it is not as simple as correction of relative path input feature and except clauses in mentioned package. Thanks Asaf -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > If you want to give an irrelevant example at least give a correct one :D > the difference between str and hex is an arcane difference (Ive never used > hex) > the difference between functions and procedures is absolutely basic. They don't giv

Re: python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Asaf Las writes: > Is there ported to Python v3 python-daemon package? > > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-daemon/ Have a read through the archives for the ‘python-daemon-devel’ discussion forum http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/python-daemon-devel>, where we have had discussio

Re: graphical python

2014-01-19 Thread Irmen de Jong
On 19-1-2014 6:40, buck wrote: > I'm trying to work through Skienna's algorithms handbook, and note that the > author often uses graphical representations of the diagrams to help > understand (and even debug) the algorithms. I'd like to reproduce this in > python. > > How would you go about thi

Re: python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Asaf Las
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:41:31 PM UTC+2, Ben Finney wrote: > Have a read through the archives for the ‘python-daemon-devel’ > discussion forum > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/python-daemon-devel>, > where we have had discussions about porting the library to Python 3. > I'd b

Re: Need help vectorizing code

2014-01-19 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 18 January 2014 20:51, Kevin K wrote: > I have some code that I need help vectorizing. > I want to convert the following to vector form, how can I? I want to get rid > of the inner loop - apparently, it's possible to do so. > X is an NxD matrix. y is a 1xD vector. > > def foo(X, y, mylambda, N

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-18, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 1/18/2014 1:30 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> Pardon me for being cynical, but in the entire history of the universe, >> has anybody ever used input()/raw_input() for anything other than a >> homework problem? > > Homework problems (and 'toy' programs, such as hangm

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-18, indar kumar wrote: > I want to show a code for review but afraid of plagiarism issues. > Kindly, suggest how can I post it for review here without masking it > visible for public http://www.python.org/community/jobs/ I'm sure once you've agreed on contract and payment terms with

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/19/2014 12:26 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: On Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:29:58 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: As do these pieces of code: --> def quux1(x): return str(x+1) --> def quux2(x): return hex(x+1)[2:] They do? --> quux1(2.3

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: >>> --> def quux1(x): return str(x+1) >> --> quux1(2.3) >> '3.3' > > (Will be) fixed in 3.5 [1] :) > [1] Which is to say, both will raise an exception. Why would that raise? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-19, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 16:14:48 + (UTC), Grant Edwards > declaimed the following: > >>On 2014-01-18, Terry Reedy wrote: >>> On 1/18/2014 1:30 PM, Roy Smith wrote: Pardon me for being cynical, but in the entire history of the universe, has anybo

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > 2) I didn't claim that sys.stdin.readline() was as simple as using >input. I didn't claim it was preferable. I merely presented it as >a refutation to the argument that if you don't use input/raw_input >then you have to use a GU

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/01/2014 18:41, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 18/01/2014 18:30, Roy Smith wrote: Pardon me for being cynical, but in the entire history of the universe, has anybody ever used input()/raw_input() for anything other than a homework problem? Not me personally. I guess raw_input must have been us

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-19, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 18/01/2014 18:41, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 18/01/2014 18:30, Roy Smith wrote: >>> Pardon me for being cynical, but in the entire history of the universe, >>> has anybody ever used input()/raw_input() for anything other than a >>> homework problem? >> >> N

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/19/2014 08:38 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: --> def quux1(x): return str(x+1) --> quux1(2.3) '3.3' (Will be) fixed in 3.5 [1] :) [1] Which is to say, both will raise an exception. Why would that raise? Sorry, should have read that c

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Grant Edwards wrote: > I can still remember the point in my first trip to the UK when I > accidentally stumbled across darts on TV. Given the endless variety > (and quantity) of pointless crap that people watch here in the US, I > can't really explain why I was so baffled and amused

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > The difference I was thinking of is: > > "%h" % 3.14 # this works > > vs. > > hex(3.14) # this raises > > In 3.5 both will raise. Now you have me *thoroughly* intrigued. It's not %h (incomplete format - h is a modifier), nor %H (unsuppo

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > What's so complicated? > > points = 501 > for dart in throws(): >if points - dart == 0 and dart.is_double(): > raise YouWin >if points - dart < 0: > continue >points -= dart >beer.drink() assert victory raise beer Ch

What’s wrong with scientific Python?

2014-01-19 Thread candide
http://cyrille.rossant.net/whats-wrong-with-scientific-python/ Any comments ? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Scalability TCP Server + Background Game

2014-01-19 Thread Philip Werner
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:19:24 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 18/01/2014 12:40, phi...@gmail.com wrote: > > [snip the stuff I can't help with] > > Here's the link you need to sort the problem with double spacing from > google groups https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython Thanks for the

Re: Python Scalability TCP Server + Background Game

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Philip Werner wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:19:24 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> On 18/01/2014 12:40, phi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> [snip the stuff I can't help with] >> >> Here's the link you need to sort the problem with double spacing from >> google groups h

Re: What’s wrong with scientific Python?

2014-01-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/01/2014 18:46, candide wrote: http://cyrille.rossant.net/whats-wrong-with-scientific-python/ Any comments ? Not worth reading as doesn't seem to have anything new to say. As for Python 2 being obsolete, well I just give up :( -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-19, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I can still remember the point in my first trip to the UK when I >> accidentally stumbled across darts on TV. Given the endless variety >> (and quantity) of pointless crap that people watch here in the US, I >> can't real

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/01/2014 18:15, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-01-19, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 18/01/2014 18:41, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 18/01/2014 18:30, Roy Smith wrote: Pardon me for being cynical, but in the entire history of the universe, has anybody ever used input()/raw_input() for anything other th

Re: What’s wrong with scientific Python?

2014-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
candide writes: > http://cyrille.rossant.net/whats-wrong-with-scientific-python/ > Any comments ? It's in need of a good summary. -- \ “I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or | `\anything that could be understood as anthropomorphic.” —Albert | _o__)

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Larry Martell
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 19/01/2014 18:15, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2014-01-19, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> Actually, to go off at a tangent, I'm just getting into GUIs via >>> wxPython. I've discovered there are distinct advantages having to >>> write endles

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/01/2014 19:24, Larry Martell wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 19/01/2014 18:15, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-01-19, Mark Lawrence wrote: Actually, to go off at a tangent, I'm just getting into GUIs via wxPython. I've discovered there are distinct advan

Re: python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Larry Martell
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Asaf Las wrote: > Hi Community > > Is there ported to Python v3 python-daemon package? > > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-daemon/ > > i am afraid it is not as simple as correction of relative path input > feature and except clauses in mentioned package. I use

Re: graphical python

2014-01-19 Thread buck
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:19:29 AM UTC-8, Ian wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:40 PM, buck wrote: > > > I'm trying to work through Skienna's algorithms handbook, and note that the > > author often uses graphical representations of the diagrams to help > > understand (and even debug) the

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/19/2014 10:41 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: The difference I was thinking of is: "%h" % 3.14 # this works vs. hex(3.14) # this raises In 3.5 both will raise. Now you have me *thoroughly* intrigued. It's not %h (incomplete form

Re: Help with simple code that has database defined

2014-01-19 Thread Denis McMahon
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:23:01 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > I have to save students information in a database that is keeping > continuously track of the information. Format is as follows: You probably need to use one of the database modules. > Note: if this name already exists there in database, j

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 January 2014 15:11:52 Larry Martell did opine: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > On 19/01/2014 18:15, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2014-01-19, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >>> Actually, to go off at a tangent, I'm just getting into GUIs via > >>> wxPython. I'v

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 January 2014 15:08:31 Roy Smith did opine: > In article , > > Grant Edwards wrote: > > I can still remember the point in my first trip to the UK when I > > accidentally stumbled across darts on TV. Given the endless variety > > (and quantity) of pointless crap that people watch her

Re: graphical python

2014-01-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM, buck wrote: > Thanks Ian. > Have you personally used pyjs successfully? > It's ominous that the examples pages are broken... I don't have any personal experience with either project. I don't know what's going on with pyjs.org currently, but the examples at the p

Re: question about input() and/or raw_input()

2014-01-19 Thread Larry Martell
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 19 January 2014 15:11:52 Larry Martell did opine: > >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: >> > On 19/01/2014 18:15, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2014-01-19, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >>> Actually, to go off at

Documentation of dict views change request

2014-01-19 Thread Charles Hixson
Could it please be clearly documented that keys(), values(), and items() are not writeable. I agree that this is how they should be, but it would be still better if they were clearly documented as such. The labeling of them as dynamic, while true, was a bit confusing here. (I.e., it was talk

Re: Documentation of dict views change request

2014-01-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/01/2014 21:26, Charles Hixson wrote: Could it please be clearly documented that keys(), values(), and items() are not writeable. I agree that this is how they should be, but it would be still better if they were clearly documented as such. The labeling of them as dynamic, while true, was

Re: Documentation of dict views change request

2014-01-19 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Charles Hixson wrote: > Could it please be clearly documented that keys(), values(), and items() > are not writeable. We'll, technically, they are. >>> d = {'foo': 1, 'bar':2} >>> k = d.keys() >>> k ['foo', 'bar'] >>> k[0] = "some other key" >>> k ['some other key', 'bar'] Of co

Re: Documentation of dict views change request

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Charles Hixson wrote: > >> Could it please be clearly documented that keys(), values(), and items() >> are not writeable. > > We'll, technically, they are. > > Of course, this only changes the list that keys() returns, it doesn't

Re: How to write this as a list comprehension?

2014-01-19 Thread Piet van Oostrum
John Allsup writes: > Hi, > > I'd agree with the advice that it's not the best idea: readability sucks > here, but consider the following: > > > import time > > def somefunc(a,b,c,d): # dummy function > return "{} - {} - {} : {}".format(a,b,c,d) > l = [(time.time(),"name {}".format(n)) for n

Re: Documentation of dict views change request

2014-01-19 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/19/2014 4:41 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 19/01/2014 21:26, Charles Hixson wrote: Could it please be clearly documented that keys(), values(), and items() are not writeable. I agree that this is how they should be, but it would be still better if they were clearly documented as such. The l

Re: Python program distribution - a source of constant friction

2014-01-19 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 11:39:13PM +, Nicholas Cole wrote: > This email is inspired by a YouTube video of a talk that Jessica McKellar Could you please share the link to the video please? > recently gave. I was struck by her analysis that it is hard to remain a > popular language (as Python

Re: How to write this as a list comprehension?

2014-01-19 Thread Rhodri James
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:00:45 -, Jussi Piitulainen wrote: Rustom Mody writes: On Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:06:29 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Otten wrote: > What would a list-comp with `let` or `where` look like? Would it > win the beauty contest against the loop? For me this is neat [somefu

Re: [newbie] advice and comment wanted on first tkinter program

2014-01-19 Thread Jean Dupont
Op zaterdag 18 januari 2014 16:12:41 UTC+1 schreef Oscar Benjamin: > On 18 January 2014 14:52, Jean Dupont wrote: > > > > Thanks Peter and Terry Jan for the useful suggestions. One thing which I > >find a bit weird: when asking for Python-help concerning raspberry pi code > > or problems, a lot

Re: python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Asaf Las
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:30:21 PM UTC+2, larry@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Asaf Las wrote: > I use this technique for demonizing: > http://www.jejik.com/articles/2007/02/a_simple_unix_linux_daemon_in_python/ > And has been ported to 3: > http://www.jejik.com/files/

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:32:21 -0800, indar kumar wrote: > >> @Roy Smith >> >> Can you help me privately because its an assignment and have to submit >> plagiarism free > > Then don't plagiarise. > > > Plagiarism means YOU copy other people.

Re: python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Larry Martell
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Asaf Las wrote: > On Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:30:21 PM UTC+2, larry@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Asaf Las wrote: >> I use this technique for demonizing: >> http://www.jejik.com/articles/2007/02/a_simple_unix_linux_daemon_in_python/ >>

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked > significantly. There was no "who copied off of whom?", it was > "someone shared when they shouldn't have." W

Re: [newbie] advice and comment wanted on first tkinter program

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Jean Dupont wrote: > I started a thread "[newbie] starting geany from within idle does not > work" both here and in the raspberry pi forum. I just wondered why I never > got an answer concerning that topic. I saw that thread. It looked like a R-Pi problem, not a P

Re: python-daemon for Python v3

2014-01-19 Thread Asaf Las
On Monday, January 20, 2014 8:19:04 AM UTC+2, larry@gmail.com wrote: > Nope, no problems at all. Thanks! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python declarative

2014-01-19 Thread Francesco Bochicchio
Looking at my own code after four years, I just realized that most of parentheses can be avoided by redefining the += operators to be a synonym of the add method. Go figure, I guess that with age it _does_ come a little wisdom ... :-) Ciao - FB -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

2014-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Angelico writes: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > I did a short time of teaching while I was in school. If three > > students all turned in the same assignment, they all got docked > > significantly. There was no "who copied off of whom?", it was > > "someone sha

Generating documentation for Python and JavaScript/AngularJS to the one doc server?

2014-01-19 Thread Alec Taylor
The advantages of this approach include: - Consistent docstring syntax everywhere - Centralsied documentation server; find all your docs in one place Search and jump-to-source from any documented function or class; in either language Are there any modules integrating with Sphinx or simila