Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3

2013-04-17 Thread nagia . retsina
Τη Κυριακή, 14 Απριλίου 2013 12:28:32 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Cameron Simpson έγραψε: > On 13Apr2013 23:00, nagia.rets...@gmail.com wrote: > > | root@nikos [/home/nikos/public_html/foo-py]# pwd > > | /home/nikos/public_html/foo-py > > | root@nikos [/home/nikos/public_html/foo-py]# cat foo.py >

Re: The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:38:29 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote: >> (Note this contrasts starkly with Java(script), which doesn't seem >> to be based on anything -- can anyone clarify where Java actually comes >> from?) > > C. offee. ChrisA --

Re: Missing decimals in the code - some suggestions?

2013-04-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:20:18 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> This isn't a Python question. If you take a look at the csv file that >> you download from Yahoo, you will see that it only contains 2 digits of >> precision. There's no way to ma

Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM, wrote: > can you help please or tell me what else i need to try? You need to try trimming quoted text in replies, not double-spacing, and paying for help. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Rebert
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:38:29 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote: > > (Note this contrasts starkly with Java(script), which doesn't seem > > to be based on anything -- can anyone clarify where Java actually comes > > from?) > > C. "Influenced by

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Bruce McGoveran wrote: > These are terms that appear in section 5 (Expressions) of the Python online > documentation. I'm having some trouble understanding what, precisely, these > terms mean. I'd appreciate the forum's thoughts on these questions: > > 1. Sect

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Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM, wrote: > can you help please or tell me what else i need to try? You need to try trimming quoted text in replies, not double-spacing, and paying for help. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Understanding Boolean Expressions

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:19:25 -0700, Bruce McGoveran wrote: > Hello. I am new to this group. I've done a search for the topic about > which I'm posting, and while I have found some threads that are > relevant, I haven't found anything exactly on point that I can > understand. So, I'm taking the

Re: Understanding Boolean Expressions

2013-04-17 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
Steven D'Aprano writes: > So paradoxically, that means that "x or y" counts as an and_test > (obviously!) but also as an or_test, since every and_test also > counts as an or_test. Here's some crappy ASCII art of a Venn diagram I think you mean to say that "x and y" counts as an and_test and also

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-17 Thread Antoine Pitrou
rusi gmail.com> writes: > > Just what I said: ecosystem matters. We may or may not argue about > "more than language", but it surely matters. Some examples: > > 1. In the link that Roderick originally posted there is a long comment > that adds perl to the languages the author discussed. As a la

RGB combine

2013-04-17 Thread m . shemuni
Hi everyone. I have 3 grayscaled picture. These are Red, Green and Blue filtered. I want to colorize it. I'm a GNU/Linux user and I did it with imagemagick using this code: convert r.png g.png b.png -set colorspace RGB -combine -set colorspace sRGB rgb.gif But I want to colorize it with using c

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Uday S Reddy
Mark Janssen writes: > > Having said that, theorists do want to unify concepts wherever possible > > and wherever they make sense. Imperative programming types, which I > > will call "storage types", are semantically the same as classes. > > I like that word "storage type", it makes it much clea

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:02:01 -0400, Rodrick Brown wrote: > I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with > modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript for > anything serious or Node itself but I found this article really > informational. > > "The

Re: Understanding Boolean Expressions

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:47:49 +0300, Jussi Piitulainen wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > >> So paradoxically, that means that "x or y" counts as an and_test >> (obviously!) but also as an or_test, since every and_test also counts >> as an or_test. Here's some crappy ASCII art of a Venn diagram >

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Uday S Reddy
Mark Janssen writes: > From: en.wikipedia.org: Programming_paradigm: > > "A programming paradigm is a fundamental style of computer > programming. There are four main paradigms: object-oriented, > imperative, functional and declarative. Their foundations are distinct > models of computation: Tur

Re: Understanding Boolean Expressions

2013-04-17 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:47:49 +0300, Jussi Piitulainen wrote: > > > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > > >> So paradoxically, that means that "x or y" counts as an and_test > >> (obviously!) but also as an or_test, since every and_test also counts > >> as an or_test. Here's so

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
17.04.13 07:57, Larry Hudson написав(ла): So using a list comprehension you can do it in two lines: def get_rule(num): bs = bin(num)[2:] return [0] * (8 - len(bs)) + [int(i) for i in bs] You can do it in one line! def get_rule(num): return list(map(int, '{:08b}'.format(num)))

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread aaB
Hello, Thanks for all your replies, things are getting clearer. - copy/paste vs retyping: Several people have remarked that I had retyped instead of copy/pasting. This is exactly what happened, the fact is I haven't figured out yet how to enable copy/pasting from urxvt to vim. I'll try to get th

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Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Dave Angel
On 04/16/2013 10:57 PM, Bruce McGoveran wrote: These are terms that appear in section 5 (Expressions) of the Python online documentation. I'm having some trouble understanding what, precisely, these terms mean. I'd appreciate the forum's thoughts on these questions: 3. Section 5.3.1 offers

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread Lele Gaifax
aaB writes: > - copy/paste vs retyping: > Several people have remarked that I had retyped instead of copy/pasting. > This is exactly what happened, the fact is I haven't figured out yet how to > enable copy/pasting from urxvt to vim. I used to use rxvt, but since a while I switched to roxterm fo

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:57:25 -0700, Bruce McGoveran wrote: > These are terms that appear in section 5 (Expressions) of the Python > online documentation. I'm having some trouble understanding what, > precisely, these terms mean. I'd appreciate the forum's thoughts on > these questions: > > 1.

Re: The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 16-04-13 18:49, Terry Jan Reedy schreef: > On 4/16/2013 5:07 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 16-04-13 05:17, Terry Jan Reedy schreef: >> >>> I will keep the above in mind if I write or review a patch. here are 4 >>> non-subclassable builtin classes. Two are already documented. Bool in >>> one, fo

Parsing soap result

2013-04-17 Thread Ombongi Moraa Fe
My client.service.gere(ri) method call logs the below soap response in my log file. http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"; xmlns:xsi=" http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";>http://www.csapi.org/schema/parlayx/sms/send/v2_2/local ">254727DeliveredToNetwork If I assign the client.serv

Tornado with cgi form

2013-04-17 Thread Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira
*I installed tornado and he is functional, but when I execute the following script:* import tornado.ioloop import tornado.web import cgi class MainHandler(tornado.web. RequestHandler): form = cgi.FieldStorage() # parse form data print('Content-type: text/html\n')#

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Rishiyur Nikhil
>If you have trouble getting hold of "The Essence of Algol", ... There seems to be a downloadable copy at: www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Reynolds81.ps It's in PostScript, which is easily convertible to PDF if you wish. Nikhil On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Uday S Reddy wrote: > [ T

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread darnold
On Apr 17, 5:25 am, aaB wrote: > > - the "complement" thing: > I haven't yet tried to reproduce this, but I will, and I will post back if I > see > this happening again, this time with a real log of python's interactive > console, > or a complete script which people can use. > That was happenin

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Miki Tebeka
>> I'm trying to find a way to have json emit float('NaN') as 'N/A'. > No. There is no way to represent NaN in JSON. It's simply not part of the > specification. I know that. I'm trying to emit the *string* 'N/A' for every NaN. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tornado with cgi form

2013-04-17 Thread Lele Gaifax
Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira writes: > *I installed tornado and he is functional, but when I execute the following > script:* I think this is the wrong place to ask such a question, more appropriate would be http://groups.google.com/group/python-tornado Anyway, you defined a MainHandler class *wi

Re: [TYPES] The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages

2013-04-17 Thread Andreas Abel
On 17.04.2013 11:30, Uday S Reddy wrote: Mark Janssen writes: From: en.wikipedia.org: Programming_paradigm: "A programming paradigm is a fundamental style of computer programming. There are four main paradigms: object-oriented, imperative, functional and declarative. Their foundations are dis

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread John Gordon
In Miki Tebeka writes: > >> I'm trying to find a way to have json emit float('NaN') as 'N/A'. > > No. There is no way to represent NaN in JSON. It's simply not part of the > > specification. > I know that. I'm trying to emit the *string* 'N/A' for every NaN. import math x = possibly_NaN()

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread 88888 Dihedral
Serhiy Storchaka於 2013年4月17日星期三UTC+8下午5時35分07秒寫道: > 17.04.13 07:57, Larry Hudson написав(ла): > > > So using a list comprehension you can do it in two lines: > > > > > > def get_rule(num): > > > bs = bin(num)[2:] > > > return [0] * (8 - len(bs)) + [int(i) for i in bs] > > > > You

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-17 Thread Stefan Behnel
Steven D'Aprano, 17.04.2013 11:16: > If you look at the node.js site, the first thing that jumps out at me is > that the culture encourages churning out packages rather than encouraging > quality packages. The front page offers author recognition for being > prolific, but not for writing good co

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Bruce McGoveran
Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I appreciate your collective insight. I didn't mean to cast the concept of recursion in a negative light - I'm actually comfortable with the concept, at least to some extent, and I appreciate the need for its use in this documentation. I also appreci

Re: Parsing soap result

2013-04-17 Thread darnold
On Apr 17, 8:50 am, Ombongi Moraa Fe wrote: > how do I use xml.etree.ElementTree to print the parameters address and > deliveryStatus? Or is there a better python method? > I'm sure there are prettier ways to do this, but you can use XPath syntax to find all of your ns1:result nodes and loop th

Re: Parsing soap result

2013-04-17 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 17.04.2013 19:55, schrieb darnold: > On Apr 17, 8:50 am, Ombongi Moraa Fe > wrote: > >> how do I use xml.etree.ElementTree to print the parameters address and >> deliveryStatus? Or is there a better python method? >> > > > I'm sure there are prettier ways to do this, but you can use XPath >

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 4/17/2013 12:10 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: Serhiy Storchaka於 2013年4月17日星期三UTC+8下午5時35分07秒寫道: 17.04.13 07:57, Larry Hudson написав(ла): So using a list comprehension you can do it in two lines: def get_rule(num): bs = bin(num)[2:] return [0] * (8 - len(bs)) + [int(i) for i in bs]

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > On 4/17/2013 12:10 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: >> Well, a new object is returned and can be used. >> Then who is going to clean up the object when required? > > > This is a key thing to understand about Python: memory is managed > automatica

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Wow, that's some impressive wall of text! Splitting your comments up into a few paragraphs would make it much easier to read :-) My comments below... On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:15:02 -0700, Bruce McGoveran wrote: > Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I appreciate your collective > insight.

Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 4/17/2013 12:10 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: >> Well, a new object is returned and can be used. >> Then who is going to clean up the object when required? > > This is a key thing to understand about Python: memory is managed > automatically, no one has to clean up the obj

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Johann Hibschman
Miki Tebeka writes: >>> I'm trying to find a way to have json emit float('NaN') as 'N/A'. >> No. There is no way to represent NaN in JSON. It's simply not part of the >> specification. > I know that. I'm trying to emit the *string* 'N/A' for every NaN. Easiest way is probably to transform your

Re: Parsing soap result

2013-04-17 Thread darnold
On Apr 17, 1:05 pm, Christian Heimes wrote: > Am 17.04.2013 19:55, schrieb darnold: > > > On Apr 17, 8:50 am, Ombongi Moraa Fe > > wrote: > > >> how do I use xml.etree.ElementTree to print the parameters address and > >> deliveryStatus? Or is there a better python method? > > > I'm sure there are

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2013-04-17 Thread someone
Hi, Here's my script (from http://brenda.moon.net.au/category/data-visualisation/: #!/usr/bin/python import pandas import datetime import numpy datesList = [datetime.date(2011,12,1), \ datetime.date(2011,12,2), \ datetime.date(2011,12,3)

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Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Miki Tebeka
> >>> I'm trying to find a way to have json emit float('NaN') as 'N/A'. > Easiest way is probably to transform your object before you try to write Yeah, that's what I ended up doing. Wondered if there's a better way ... Thanks, -- Miki -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Dave Angel
On 04/17/2013 03:05 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote: Miki Tebeka writes: I'm trying to find a way to have json emit float('NaN') as 'N/A'. No. There is no way to represent NaN in JSON. It's simply not part of the specification. I know that. I'm trying to emit the *string* 'N/A' for every NaN.

Re: Parsing soap result

2013-04-17 Thread Burak Arslan
On 04/17/13 16:50, Ombongi Moraa Fe wrote: My client.service.gere(ri) method call logs the below soap response in my log file. xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"; xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";>xmlns:ns1="http://www.csapi.org/schema/parlayx/sms/s

Re: Preparing sqlite, dl and tkinter for Python installation (no admin rights)

2013-04-17 Thread James Jong
I managed to compile sqlite with: CPPFLAGS='-I/path_to_sqlite-3.7.16.2/include -I/path_to_tk8.6.0/include' DFLAGS='-L/path_to_sqlite-3.7.16.2/lib -L/path_to_tk8.6.0/lib/' ./configure --prefix=/path_to_python-2.7.4 --enable-shared However, _tkinter is still failing. I don't know what else to try.

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Roland Koebler
Hi, > > Easiest way is probably to transform your object before you try to write > Yeah, that's what I ended up doing. Wondered if there's a better way ... yes, there is: subclass+extend the JSON-encoder, see pydoc json. e.g.: class JsonNanEncoder(json.JSONEncoder): def default(self, obj):

Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3

2013-04-17 Thread Cameron Simpson
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Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Mark Janssen
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM, rusi wrote: > On Apr 17, 7:57 am, Bruce McGoveran wrote: >> 3. Section 5.3.1 offers this definition of an attributeref: >> attributeref ::= primary "." identifier >> > > One general comment I will make is regarding your distress at what you > call 'circular'

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread alex23
On Apr 18, 9:40 am, Mark Janssen wrote: > This is what this list (python) has not figured out yet, because they > look up to the theoretical C.S. field and it hasn't yet been > published. No one here idolises "the theoretical C.S. field". They *use* Python to *get things done*, not to engage in p

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: > Rercursion the "bedrock" of language-design. I don't think so. From > what I know, a well-defined language ends at its symbols. It makes no > use of "infinities". >From what I know, you can't have a Turing-complete language without some fo

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Mark Janssen
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, alex23 wrote: > On Apr 18, 9:40 am, Mark Janssen wrote: >> This is what this list (python) has not figured out yet, because they >> look up to the theoretical C.S. field and it hasn't yet been >> published. > > No one here idolises "the theoretical C.S. field". Th

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Mark Janssen
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mark Janssen > wrote: >> Rercursion the "bedrock" of language-design. I don't think so. From >> what I know, a well-defined language ends at its symbols. It makes no >> use of "infinities". > > From what I kn

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/04/2013 01:41, Mark Janssen wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, alex23 wrote: On Apr 18, 9:40 am, Mark Janssen wrote: This is what this list (python) has not figured out yet, because they look up to the theoretical C.S. field and it hasn't yet been published. No one here idolises

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/04/2013 02:04, Mark Janssen wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: Rercursion the "bedrock" of language-design. I don't think so. From what I know, a well-defined language ends at its symbols. It makes no use of "

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Miki Tebeka
[Roland] > yes, there is: subclass+extend the JSON-encoder, see pydoc json. Please read the original post before answering. What you suggested does not work since NaN is of float type. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Roland Koebler
Hi, > > yes, there is: subclass+extend the JSON-encoder, see pydoc json. > Please read the original post before answering. What you suggested does not > work since NaN is of float type. ok, right, default does not work this way. But I would still suggest to extend the JSON-encoder, since that is

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Miki Tebeka wrote: > [Roland] >> yes, there is: subclass+extend the JSON-encoder, see pydoc json. > Please read the original post before answering. What you suggested does not > work since NaN is of float type. You may be able to override a bit more of the code,

Re: Encoding NaN in JSON

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Roland Koebler wrote: > as a quickhack, you > could even monkey patch json.encoder.floatstr with a wrapper which > returns "N/A" for NaN. (I've tested it: It works.) Wait... you can do that? It's internal to iterencode, at least in Python 3.3 and 2.7 that I'm loo

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM, rusi wrote: >> On Apr 17, 7:57 am, Bruce McGoveran wrote: >>> 3. Section 5.3.1 offers this definition of an attributeref: >>> attributeref ::= primary "." identifier >>> >> >> One general comment I will

Re: Preparing sqlite, dl and tkinter for Python installation (no admin rights)

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:39 AM, James Jong wrote: > I managed to compile sqlite with: > > CPPFLAGS='-I/path_to_sqlite-3.7.16.2/include -I/path_to_tk8.6.0/include' > > DFLAGS='-L/path_to_sqlite-3.7.16.2/lib -L/path_to_tk8.6.0/lib/' > > ./configure --prefix=/path_to_python-2.7.4 --enable-shared > >

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:33:09 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mark Janssen > wrote: >> Rercursion the "bedrock" of language-design. I don't think so. From >> what I know, a well-defined language ends at its symbols. It makes no >> use of "infinities". > > From what I

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mark Janssen >> wrote: >>> Rercursion the "bedrock" of language-design. I don't think so. From >>> what I know, a well-defined language ends at its symb

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Incorrect. Early Fortran, which was definitely Turing complete, was > incapable of using recursion. But that doesn't matter, since any > recursive algorithm can be re-written as iteration. So long as a language > can iterate an indefinite n

Re: Unicode issue with Python v3.3

2013-04-17 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
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Novice Issue

2013-04-17 Thread Bradley Wright
Good Day all, currently writing a script that ask the user for three things; 1.Name 2.Number 3.Description I've gotten it to do this hurah! print "Type \"q\" or \"quit\" to quit" while raw_input != "quit" or "q": print "" name = str(raw_input("Name: ")) number = str(raw_input("Num

Re: Novice Issue

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Bradley Wright wrote: > Good Day all, currently writing a script that ask the user for three things; > 1.Name > 2.Number > 3.Description > I've gotten it to do this hurah! > > print "Type \"q\" or \"quit\" to quit" > while raw_input != "quit" or "q": You'll want t

Re: Atoms, Identifiers, and Primaries

2013-04-17 Thread 88888 Dihedral
Ian於 2013年4月17日星期三UTC+8下午3時21分00秒寫道: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Bruce McGoveran > > wrote: > > > These are terms that appear in section 5 (Expressions) of the Python online > > documentation. I'm having some trouble understanding what, precisely, > > these terms mean. I'd appreciate