Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Vito De Tullio
piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: > You see, Javascript, for one, behaves the same way as Python (no variable > declaration) but JS has curly braces and you know the variable you have > just used is limited in scope to the code within the { }. With Python, you > have to search the whole file. I d

Re: encoding error in python 27

2013-02-24 Thread Peter Otten
Hala Gamal wrote: > thank you :)it worked well for small file but when i enter big file,, i > obtain this error: "Traceback (most recent call last): > File "D:\Python27\yarab (4).py", line 46, in > writer.add_document(**doc) > File "build\bdist.win32\egg\whoosh\filedb\filewriting.py", lin

Re: PyQT app accessible over network?

2013-02-24 Thread Alec Taylor
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 02/22/2013 02:49 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote: >> Web2py does seem pretty attractive in that it seems to come with a lot >> of functionality rolled in already. It seems to be pretty easy to >> deploy... since this would be more of a case whe

webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread llanitedave
I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in a documentation folder. I used webbrowser.open() to fetch the page. On linux -- KDE specifically, the command opens the local file on my default browser with no issues. However, on Windows 7, it opens Internet Explorer,

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Rebert
On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: > > I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in a documentation folder. I used webbrowser.open() to fetch the page. > > On linux -- KDE specifically, the command opens the local file on my default browser with no issues.

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread Demian Brecht
Rather than using a relative path, try using webbrowser.open('{}/documentation/help.html'.format(os.path.dirname(__file__))). On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:17 AM, llanitedave wrote: > I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in a > documentation folder. I used webbrows

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Rebert
On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: > > I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in a documentation folder. I used webbrowser.open() to fetch the page. > > On linux -- KDE specifically, the command opens the local file on my default browser with no issues.

Re: [Python-ideas] iterable.__unpack__ method

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On 24/02/13 23:59, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Larry Hastings >> wrote: >>> >>> Or >>> >>> command, subcommand = next(iterargs), next(iterargs) >> >> >> Err is there a language guarantee of the or

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/02/2013 04:20, Larry Hudson wrote: On 02/23/2013 03:46 PM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, ... I have discovered today there is no do...while type loop. [Sigh] No biggie. This is easily simulated with: while True: ... if : break Less easily simulated i

Re: PyQT app accessible over network?

2013-02-24 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> My concern is that using postgres or mysql for this would be akin to > using a sledgehammer to swat a fly, I wouldn't use MySQL for anything that requires anything else than "select". And PostgreSQL has extremely spartanic resource requirements in the default configuration. It runs on Linux on

Re: PyQT app accessible over network?

2013-02-24 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> As far as doing client/server stuff with just a database engine, > unless you have tight control over the environment end to end, from a > security pov, it's not a good idea to expose the database engine > itself to the internet. Better to put a restricted web services API > in front of it that

Re: [Python-ideas] iterable.__unpack__ method

2013-02-24 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-02-25 01:19, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> command, subcommand = next(iterargs), next(iterargs) > >> > >> > >> Err is there a language guarantee of the order of evaluation > >> in a tuple, or is this just a "CPython happens to evaluate > >> independent expressions left-to-right"? Thi

Re: [Python-ideas] iterable.__unpack__ method

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2013-02-25 01:19, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> command, subcommand = next(iterargs), next(iterargs) >> >> >> >> >> >> Err is there a language guarantee of the order of evaluation >> >> in a tuple, or is this just a "CPython happens to

Re: PyQT app accessible over network?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> As far as doing client/server stuff with just a database engine, >> unless you have tight control over the environment end to end, from a >> security pov, it's not a good idea to expose the database engine >> itself to the internet. Bette

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread piterrr . dolinski
Hi guys, Question. Have this code intX = 32 # decl + init int var intX_asString = None # decl + init with NULL string var intX_asString = intX.__str__ ()# convert int to string What are these ugly underscores for? _str__

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > Hi guys, > > Question. Have this code > > intX = 32 # decl + init int var > intX_asString = None # decl + init with NULL string var > > intX_asString = intX.__str__ ()# convert int to string > > What are these ug

Re: subclassable types

2013-02-24 Thread Wolfgang Maier
Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes: > > On 2/22/2013 4:35 AM, Wolfgang Maier wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am wondering what the rules are that determine whether a built-in type is > > subclassable or not. > > As examples, why can you base your classes on int or set, > > but not on bool or range? > > Als

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > The "dunder" methods ("d"ouble "under"score, leading and trailing), > also called "magic methods", are the implementations of various > special features. For instance, indexing foo[1] is implemented using > the __getitem__ method. Here's a list: > > http://d

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/24/2013 07:46 AM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote:> Hi guys, Question. Have this code intX = 32 # decl + init int var intX_asString = None # decl + init with NULL string var intX_asString = intX.__str__ ()# convert int to string What are these

Re: subclassable types

2013-02-24 Thread Wolfgang Maier
> The complete list of types classes that *cannot* be subclassed is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these range, memoryview, slice and bool are the only ones in builtins. I am sorry, but again I forgot to say which Python version I'm referring to: I used Python 3.3 :) Ha

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 22/02/2013 21:37, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: if (some statement):# short form rather than if (some statement == true):# long form What all those ugly brackets are for? Peter -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 02/24/2013 09:23 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 02/24/2013 07:46 AM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote:> Hi guys, >> >> Question. Have this code >> >> intX = 32 # decl + init int var >> intX_asString = None # decl + init with NULL string var >> >> intX_asStrin

Re: tkinter / gui

2013-02-24 Thread inq1ltd
On Saturday, February 23, 2013 02:50:43 PM Rex Macey wrote: > Here is one general and one specific question about creating GUIs using > tkinter from a newbie. I have created a class in which to hold some data. > I want to create a GUI to get the data from the user and store it in the > object. B

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:46:07 -0800, piterrr.dolinski wrote: > Hi guys, > > Question. Have this code > > intX = 32 # decl + init int var > intX_asString = None # decl + init with NULL string var > > intX_asString = intX.__str__ ()# convert int to string

"The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays"

2013-02-24 Thread 7segment
Hi! The subject is a segment of a sentence which I copied from Python's official homepage. In whole, it reads: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays while waiting for a network connection to be set up. This means that it is difficult to build an interacti

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 02/24/2013 10:37 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Decided to look up the VAX/VMS scheme... > > """ > If you know the condition code for a message, you can use F$MESSAGE to > translate the code to its associated message. For example: > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE(%X0001) > %SYSTEM-S-NOR

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Mitya Sirenef
On 02/24/2013 12:29 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > I think he's maintaining existing code. It's unfortunate that his first > exposure to python is code written by someone else in such a poor style, > and in a way that definitely isn't pythonic. No wonder he's struggling > to like python! Though I'

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Michael Torrie wrote: > It's interesting to note that Windows NT sort of descends from VMS. More than "sort of". Dave Cutler was the chief architect of both. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-02-23, Chris Angelico wrote: > It's worth noting, though, that there are self-perpetuating aspects to > it. I can happily distribute a .py file to a Linux audience, because > many Linux distros come with a Python already installed, or at very > least can grab one easily via the package ma

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:09:56 -0500, Mitya Sirenef wrote: > On 02/24/2013 12:29 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > > Another way to explain the double underscore methods is that they are > > how things like operator overloading is performed. Want to make a > > class that you can use the [index] notati

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/24/2013 09:29 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: On 02/24/2013 09:23 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 02/24/2013 07:46 AM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote:> Hi guys, Question. Have this code intX = 32 # decl + init int var intX_asString = None # decl + init with

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Mitya Sirenef
On 02/24/2013 01:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:09:56 -0500, Mitya Sirenef wrote: > >> On 02/24/2013 12:29 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> > Another way to explain the double underscore methods is that they are >> > how things like operator overloading is performed. Want to

Re: intX.__str__() ??

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Ethan Furman wrote: > On the bright side, if this is one of his 2000 line scripts, he should be > able to get it down > to at least half that once he has a good feel for Python and re-writes it. I hope he doesn't get paid by the line :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays"

2013-02-24 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM, 7segment <7segm...@live.com> wrote: > Hi! > > The subject is a segment of a sentence which I copied from Python's > official homepage. In whole, it reads: > > "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long > delays while waiting for a network

Re: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays"

2013-02-24 Thread MRAB
On 2013-02-24 18:55, Ian Kelly wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM, 7segment <7segm...@live.com> wrote: Hi! The subject is a segment of a sentence which I copied from Python's official homepage. In whole, it reads: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delay

Re: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays"

2013-02-24 Thread 7segment
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:55:09 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM, 7segment <7segm...@live.com> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> The subject is a segment of a sentence which I copied from Python's >> official homepage. In whole, it reads: >> >> "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions c

Re: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays"

2013-02-24 Thread 7segment
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:04:28 +, MRAB wrote: > On 2013-02-24 18:55, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM, 7segment <7segm...@live.com> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> The subject is a segment of a sentence which I copied from Python's >>> official homepage. In whole, it reads: >>> >>> "T

Re: Correct handling of case in unicode and regexps

2013-02-24 Thread jmfauth
On 23 fév, 15:26, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm pretty unsure of myself when it comes to unicode. As I understand > it, you're generally supposed to compare things in a case insensitive > manner by case folding, right? So instead of a.lower() == b.lower() > (the ASCII way), you do a.

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread piterrr . dolinski
> To demonstrate that the person who wrote this code was not a good Python > > programmer. I hope it wasn't you :-) This person obviously had a very > > basic, and confused, understanding of Python. > > > > And, quite frankly, was probably not a very good programmer of *any* > > language:

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread piterrr . dolinski
> > if (some statement):# short form > > > > rather than > > > > if (some statement == true):# long form > > > What all those ugly brackets are for? > Mark, Back in the day when C was king, or take many newer long established languages (C#, Java), the use of () has bee

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Mitya Sirenef
On 02/24/2013 02:40 PM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: if (some statement): # short form >>> >>> rather than >>> >>> if (some statement == true): # long form >> >> >> What all those ugly brackets are for? >> > > Mark, > > Back in the day when C was king, or take many newer long established >

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-02-23, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> It's worth noting, though, that there are self-perpetuating aspects to >> it. I can happily distribute a .py file to a Linux audience, because >> many Linux distros come with a Python already install

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread llanitedave
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: > > > > > > I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in a > > documentation folder.  I used webbrowser.open() to fetch the page. > > > > > > On linu

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Michael Ross
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:40:05 +0100, wrote: > if (some statement): # short form > > rather than > > if (some statement == true): # long form What all those ugly brackets are for? Mark, Back in the day when C was king, or take many newer long established languages (C#,

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread MRAB
On 2013-02-24 19:40, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: if (some statement):# short form rather than if (some statement == true):# long form What all those ugly brackets are for? Mark, Back in the day when C was king, or take many newer long established languages (C#, Java

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:34 AM, MRAB wrote: > Some languages require parentheses, others don't. > > C does. C++, Java and C# are descended from, or influenced by, C. > > Algol didn't (doesn't?). Pascal, Modula-2, Oberon, Ada, and others > don't. > > Parentheses are used where required, but not us

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/02/2013 19:40, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: if (some statement):# short form rather than if (some statement == true):# long form What all those ugly brackets are for? Mark, Back in the day when C was king, or take many newer long established languages (C#, Jav

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/24/2013 11:40 AM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the day when C was king, or take many newer long established languages (C#, Java), the use of () has been widespread and mandated by the compilers. I have never heard anyone moan about the requirement to use parentheses. Now come

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/02/2013 20:28, llanitedave wrote: On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in a documentation folder. I used webbrowser.open() to fetch th

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > One of the things I love about Python is its ability to get out of the way > and let me work: > > - no variable declarations, just use 'em > - no type declarations, just use 'em > - no need to remember what's an object and what's not --

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM, llanitedave wrote: > On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: >> On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: >> > I created an html help page for my Python 2.7.3 application and put it in >> > a documentation folder. I used webbrowse

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread llanitedave
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:48:40 PM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM, llanitedave wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: > > >> On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: > > >> > I created an html help page for my P

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:34 AM, MRAB wrote: > > Some languages require parentheses, others don't. > > > > C does. C++, Java and C# are descended from, or influenced by, C. > > > > Algol didn't (doesn't?). Pascal, Modula-2, Oberon, Ada, and others > > don't.

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread llanitedave
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:50:02 PM UTC-8, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 24/02/2013 20:28, llanitedave wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: > > >> On Feb 24, 2013 1:21 AM, "llanitedave" wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> I created an html help pa

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > > no need to remember what's an object and what's not -- everything is an > > object Well, not quite everything. If I write: if foo: do_this() and_this() the code block making up the body of the "if" statement is not an object. In some languages,

Re: "The urlopen() and urlretrieve() functions can cause arbitrarily long delays"

2013-02-24 Thread Thomas Rachel
Am 24.02.2013 20:27 schrieb 7segment: When in doubt, check some other way, such as with a browser. Thank you Ian. Browser is not a good idea, because I need this tool to work automatically. I don't have time to check and compare the response times manually and put them into the database. Of

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joshua Landau
On 24 February 2013 19:29, wrote: > Hi. Steve, I don't know where you have been over the past couple of days > but it is widely known (if the thread title is any indication) that I am > indeed very new to Python, but not new to programming in general. > > To give a bit of background where I found

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joshua Landau
On 24 February 2013 20:48, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:34 AM, MRAB > wrote: > > > Some languages require parentheses, others don't. > > > > > > C does. C++, Java and C# are descended from, or influenced by, C. > > > > > > Algol didn't

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Joshua Landau wrote: > def solve_quadratic(a, b, c): > """Solve a quadratic equation of the form ax² + bx + c = 0 > > The result will be a tuple of the two results; the results can be equal if > the determinant is 0. > This supports imaginary results for if the det

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread MRAB
On 2013-02-24 20:28, llanitedave wrote: On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: [snip] Sounds like this might be your problem: http://bugs.python.org/issue8936 The fix would seem to be ensuring that the URL you pass includes the scheme (in your case, "file:"). Hol

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Mitya Sirenef
On 02/24/2013 04:44 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Roy Smith wrote: >> In article , >> Chris Angelico wrote: >> no need to remember what's an object and what's not -- everything is an object > > Careful on the citations - Ethan Furman said that, I just

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/24/2013 12:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: - no variable declarations, just use 'em Variable declarations can go either way; Python requires you to name all globals that you mutate I'm not sure what you mean -- example? -- ~Ethan~

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread piterrr . dolinski
Josh, Not thank you for your malicious post. I think you are missing the point here. My source code was just a dummy to offer context for the question I wanted to ask. Further down the line, if I ever feel I don't need to pseudo-declare variables I will stop doing it. But for the moment I am tr

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Dave Angel
On 02/24/2013 10:46 AM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Question. Have this code intX = 32 # decl + init int var intX_asString = None # decl + init with NULL string var None is not a str, and it's not a "NULL string var" Perhaps what you wa

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM, wrote: > Josh, > > Not thank you for your malicious post. > I think you are missing the point here. > > My source code was just a dummy to offer context for the question I wanted > to ask. Further down the line, if I ever feel I don't need to > pseudo-declare vari

Motorola RAZR HD

2013-02-24 Thread 23alagmy
Motorola RAZR HD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u28AjcMah0o -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joshua Landau
On 24 February 2013 22:43, wrote: > Josh, > > Not thank you for your malicious post. > Be careful, us programmers do *eventually* catch on to who is a troll, and if you say things like that we may eventually mark you off as just to hostile. I *honestly* meant no malice or insult. If you can't ta

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joshua Landau
On 24 February 2013 22:08, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Joshua Landau > wrote: > > def solve_quadratic(a, b, c): > > """Solve a quadratic equation of the form ax² + bx + c = 0 > > > > The result will be a tuple of the two results; the results can be equal > if > > the

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joshua Landau
On 24 February 2013 23:18, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 24 February 2013 21:35, Joshua Landau > wrote: > > > > determinant = b**2 - 4*a*c > > It's called the discriminant. A determinant is something altogether > different. *cries at own idiocy* Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Albert Hopkins
> Most of what gets hung in art galleries these days is far less > visually pleasing than well-written code. +1 QOTW -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread piterrr . dolinski
>> intX = 32 # decl + init int var > How is it not obvious that "intX" is an integer *without* the comment? Indeed the assignment is enough to deduce "intX" is an int. The comment is there to let me know it is unlikely intX appears earlier in the code. Please, let me do

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 02/24/2013 12:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: >>> >>> >>>- no variable declarations, just use 'em >> >> >> Variable declarations can go either way; Python requires you to name >>

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, wrote: > >>> intX = 32 # decl + init int var >> How is it not obvious that "intX" is an integer *without* the comment? > > Indeed the assignment is enough to deduce "intX" is an int. The comment is > there to let me know it is unlikely i

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread Demian Brecht
For the record, I completely misread and misunderstood the question. I should stop posting that late at night :P On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Demian Brecht wrote: > Rather than using a relative path, try using > webbrowser.open('{}/documentation/help.html'.format(os.path.dirname(__file__))).

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/24/2013 03:38 PM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: intX = 32 # decl + init int var How is it not obvious that "intX" is an integer *without* the comment? Indeed the assignment is enough to deduce "intX" is an int. The comment is there to let me know it is unl

using urllib on a more complex site

2013-02-24 Thread Adam W.
I'm trying to write a simple script to scrape http://www.vudu.com/movies/#tag/99centOfTheDay/99c%20Rental%20of%20the%20day in order to send myself an email every day of the 99c movie of the day. However, using a simple command like (in Python 3.0): urllib.request.urlopen('http://www.vudu.com/mo

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread piterrr . dolinski
> For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX with > some integer value does *nothing* to maintain > > X as an integer: > > --> intX = 32 > > --> intX = intX / 3.0 > > --> intX > > 10.66 > Yes I did see that it is possible to redefine the type of a variable

Re: using urllib on a more complex site

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sunday, February 24, 2013, Adam W. wrote: > I'm trying to write a simple script to scrape > http://www.vudu.com/movies/#tag/99centOfTheDay/99c%20Rental%20of%20the%20day > > in order to send myself an email every day of the 99c movie of the day. > > However, using a simple command like (in Pytho

Re: using urllib on a more complex site

2013-02-24 Thread Dave Angel
On 02/24/2013 07:02 PM, Adam W. wrote: I'm trying to write a simple script to scrape http://www.vudu.com/movies/#tag/99centOfTheDay/99c%20Rental%20of%20the%20day in order to send myself an email every day of the 99c movie of the day. However, using a simple command like (in Python 3.0): urllib

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Joshua Landau
On 25 February 2013 00:08, wrote: > > For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX > with some integer value does *nothing* to maintain > > > > X as an integer: > > > > --> intX = 32 > > > > --> intX = intX / 3.0 > > > > --> intX > > > > 10.66 > > > > Yes I did see

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/02/2013 00:08, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX with some integer value does *nothing* to maintain X as an integer: --> intX = 32 --> intX = intX / 3.0 --> intX 10.66 Yes I did see that it is possible to

yield expression

2013-02-24 Thread Ziliang Chen
Hi folks, When I am trying to understand "yield" expression in Python2.6, I did the following coding. I have difficulty understanding why "val" will be "None" ? What's happening under the hood? It seems to me very time the counter resumes to execute, it will assign "count" to "val", so "val" sho

yield expression

2013-02-24 Thread Ziliang Chen
Hi folks, When I am trying to understand "yield" expression in Python2.6, I did the following coding. I have difficulty understanding why "val" will be "None" ? What's happening under the hood? It seems to me very time the counter resumes to execute, it will assign "count" to "val", so "val" sho

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/24/2013 04:08 PM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX with some integer value does *nothing* to maintain X as an integer: --> intX = 32 --> intX = intX / 3.0 --> intX 10.66 Yes I did see that it is possible

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:08:01 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> > no need to remember what's an object and what's not -- everything is >> > an object > > Well, not quite everything. If I write: > > if foo: >do_this() >and_this() > > the code block ma

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Ethan Furman wrote: > On 02/24/2013 03:38 PM, piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >>> intX = 32 # decl + init int var > >> How is it not obvious that "intX" is an integer *without* the comment? > > > > Indeed the assignment is enough to deduce "intX" is

Re: yield expression

2013-02-24 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 25 February 2013 00:39, Ziliang Chen wrote: > Hi folks, > When I am trying to understand "yield" expression in Python2.6, I did the > following coding. I have difficulty understanding why "val" will be "None" ? > What's happening under the hood? It seems to me very time the counter resumes >

yield expression

2013-02-24 Thread Ziliang Chen
Hi folks, When I am trying to understand "yield" expression in Python2.6, I did the following coding. I have difficulty understanding why "val" will be "None" ? What's happening under the hood? It seems to me very time the counter resumes to execute, it will assign "count" to "val", so "val" sho

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 25 February 2013 00:08, wrote: Chris Angelico wrote: >> For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX with >> some integer value does *nothing* to maintain >> >> X as an integer: >> >> --> intX = 32 >> >> --> intX = intX / 3.0 >> >> --> intX >> >> 10.66 >> > > Y

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Roy Smith
In article , piterrr.dolin...@gmail.com wrote: > Yes I did see that it is possible to redefine the type of a variable. But I > don't think I would ever do this intentionally One does not need language features to protect themselves against things they do intentionally. They need language feat

Re: yield expression

2013-02-24 Thread Ziliang Chen
On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:51:28 AM UTC+8, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 25 February 2013 00:39, Ziliang Chen wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > When I am trying to understand "yield" expression in Python2.6, I did the > > following coding. I have difficulty understanding why "val" will be "None" >

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:40:05 -0800, piterrr.dolinski wrote: >> > if (some statement): # short form >> > >> > rather than >> > >> > if (some statement == true): # long form >> >> >> What all those ugly brackets are for? >> >> > Mark, > > Back in the day when C was king, or

Re: webbrowser.open("./documentation/help.html")-- No Go in Windows

2013-02-24 Thread llanitedave
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:15:10 PM UTC-8, MRAB wrote: > On 2013-02-24 20:28, llanitedave wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:35:31 AM UTC-8, Chris Rebert wrote: > > [snip] > > >> Sounds like this might be your problem: > > >> > > >> http://bugs.python.org/issue8936 > > >> > > >>

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:08:06 -0800, piterrr.dolinski wrote: >> For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX >> with some integer value does *nothing* to maintain >> >> X as an integer: >> >> --> intX = 32 >> >> --> intX = intX / 3.0 >> >> --> intX >> >> 10.66 >

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:40:54 -0500, Mitya Sirenef wrote: > But if block doesn't have to be inside a function, right? It needs to be > inside a module, but then again everything is inside a module, but it > wouldn't be very object-oriented if the module was the only object in > Python :-). Python

Re: using urllib on a more complex site

2013-02-24 Thread Adam W.
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:30:00 PM UTC-5, Dave Angel wrote: > On 02/24/2013 07:02 PM, Adam W. wrote: > > > I'm trying to write a simple script to scrape > > http://www.vudu.com/movies/#tag/99centOfTheDay/99c%20Rental%20of%20the%20day > > > > > > in order to send myself an email every day o

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 25 February 2013 00:08, wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: >>> For example (I believe it's already been mentioned) "declaring" intX with >>> some integer value does *nothing* to maintain >>> >>> X as an integer: >>> >>> --> intX = 32 >>>

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Not at all. The only difference is whether you get a compiler error or a > runtime error. Instead of: > > 10 Write code. > 20 Compile. > 30 If compiler error, GO TO 10. > 40 REM code compiles, but it still needs to be tested > 50 Test code

Re: using urllib on a more complex site

2013-02-24 Thread Adam W.
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:27:54 PM UTC-5, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Sunday, February 24, 2013, Adam W. wrote: > I'm trying to write a simple script to scrape > http://www.vudu.com/movies/#tag/99centOfTheDay/99c%20Rental%20of%20the%20day > > > > > in order to send myself an email every day

Re: Python Newbie

2013-02-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 02/24/2013 03:40 PM, Mitya Sirenef wrote: > But if block doesn't have to be inside a function, right? It needs > to be inside a module, but then again everything is inside a module, but > it wouldn't be very object-oriented if the module was the only object in > Python :-). A module indeed fits

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