Re: [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread prilisauer
Hey :-P I think I should rename the threads name into a new "Doc" project, I'm sure It won't take much time to fill a book with our knowledge. Thanks to Rick, you have Posted exactly what I wanted to ask. I know the that __variable = 'xyz' _variable = 'xyz' are used to make them private, but I

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:19:18 -0500, Dave Angel wrote: > Nobody's going to be able to understand your code if you persist in > using self in unpythonic ways. It's used as the first argument of a > class method. Period. To be pedantic, "self" is the conventional argument for *instance* methods, n

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread prilisauer
Hello Steven, to "learn python" I've bought a book, and it's not a "thin" one :-) it's more a 788p. long documentation about python. BUT! I have to say: The autor started using the "self." argument at the chapter classes. So You've shown me the book descr. non "correct" way. Better using t

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread Dave Angel
On 12/25/2012 09:41 AM, prilisa...@googlemail.com wrote: > Hello Steven, > > to "learn python" I've bought a book, and it's not a "thin" one :-) it's more > a 788p. long documentation about python. > > BUT! I have to say: The autor started using the "self." argument at the > chapter classes.

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread prilisauer
By the way i haven't add the Title because it's a german only book named "Python 3: Das umfangreiche Handbuch, Published by Galileo Computing" and also, because I've registered to first check if the Autor has allready published a update. Too many information's could ocurre in an avalanche I se

Re: Scrapy/XPath help

2012-12-25 Thread donarb
On Friday, December 21, 2012 1:58:47 PM UTC-8, Always Learning wrote: > The errors I get are > >>File > >>"C:\python27\lib\site-packages\scrapy-0.16.3-py2.7.egg\scrapy\selector\lxmlsel.py", > >> line 47, in select > > >>raise ValueError("Invalid XPath: %s" % xpath) > > >>exceptions.ValueError: I

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:10:49 AM UTC-6, Dave Angel wrote: > We all make mistakes, like my referring to class methods when I > meant instance methods. This mistake reminded of how people in this group (maybe not you in particular) happily accept the terms "instance method" and "class me

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:16:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:10:49 AM UTC-6, Dave Angel wrote: > >> We all make mistakes, like my referring to class methods when I meant >> instance methods. > > This mistake reminded of how people in this group (maybe not you in > p

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 3:08:21 PM UTC-6, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Only that many of us don't believe Python has /variables/, the use > of instance/class as a modifier is thereby moot. What IS a variable Dennis? # #

regarding compiling the Python 2.7 and 3.3 with mingw

2012-12-25 Thread ginzzer
Hi all, For some reason, I have to develop my software with mingw under windows. First of all, I need python installed in the msys but I try all my ways to install 2.6.x, 2.7.x, 3.2.x and 3.3.0, no one succeed. I search all issues and google the related information online, it seems that it do

Re: [Help] [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 4:56:44 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Rick, what makes you think that this is logically inconsistent? > "Method" is the accepted name for functions attached to classes. They > report themselves as "methods": > [...] > There are two built-ins for creating differen

Simple audio library

2012-12-25 Thread Abhas Bhattacharya
Which simple python audio library will you suggest for low level audio creation (for eg I want to create tones of different intensities and frequency continously and then record the whole sequence)? (Although a minimal audio library is ok, it would be better if you can tell me about a full-fledg

Re: Finding the name of a function while defining it

2012-12-25 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Abhas Bhattacharya wrote: > While I am defining a function, how can I access the name (separately as > string as well as object) of the function without explicitly naming > it(hard-coding the name)? > For eg. I am writing like: > def abc(): > #how do i access the function abc

Re: [Newbie] Require help migrating from Perl to Python 2.7 (namespaces)

2012-12-25 Thread alex23
On 26 Dec, 09:42, Rick Johnson wrote: > Python classes CAN and DO have variables, just as Python modules > have variables; psst: they're called "global variables"! Actually, they're called "module attributes", but don't let the facts get in the way of your little rant. You never have before. --

Re: Password hash

2012-12-25 Thread Ramchandra Apte
On Monday, 24 December 2012 08:08:12 UTC+5:30, Robert Montgomery wrote: > I am writing a script that will send an email using an account I set up > > in gmail. It is an smtp server using tls on port 587, and I would like > > to use a password hash in the (python) script for login rather than >

Re: Simple audio library

2012-12-25 Thread Xantipius
On Dec 26, 5:07 am, Abhas Bhattacharya wrote: > Which simple python audio library will you suggest for low level audio > creation (for eg I want to create tones of different intensities and > frequency continously and then record the whole sequence)? (Although a > minimal audio library is ok, i

EOFError why print(e) cannot print out any information ?

2012-12-25 Thread iMath
why print(e) cannot print out any information ? class user: def __init__(self, x,y,z): self.id = x self.name = y self.emailadd=z def dispuser(self): print('User ID: ', self.id) print('User Name : ', se

Re: EOFError why print(e) cannot print out any information ?

2012-12-25 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2012.12.25 23:26, iMath wrote: > why print(e) cannot print out any information ? If you want to manipulate tracebacks, use sys.exc_info() and the traceback module from the standard library. The logging module also comes with an exception() function and an exception() method for Logger objects th

Command Line Progress Bar

2012-12-25 Thread Kevin Anthony
Hello, I'm writing a file processing script(Linux), and i would like to have a progress bar. But i would also like to be able to print messages. Is there a simple way of doing this without implementing something like ncurses? -- Thanks Kevin Anthony www.NoSideRacing.com Do you use Banshee? Dow

Re: Command Line Progress Bar

2012-12-25 Thread Mitya Sirenef
On 12/26/2012 01:17 AM, Kevin Anthony wrote: Hello, I'm writing a file processing script(Linux), and i would like to have a progress bar. But i would also like to be able to print messages. Is there a simple way of doing this without implementing something like ncurses? -- Thanks Kevin Ant

I am facing an issue while decoding json string using json.loads

2012-12-25 Thread sajuptpm
I am facing an issue while decoding json string using json.loads(jstring). Its working, if i do json.dumps(eval(jstring)) before json.loads(jstring). I could not figure out the issue. I want to avoide use of "eval" here. ## Failing without json.dumps(eval(jstring)) def