On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT), Ramchandra Apte
wrote:
>> Definitely not plug 'n play :-/
>
>Well the plug and play standard is superseded by USB practically.
Indeed ;-)
Anyway, Support finally got back to me, and it turns out that they
have Flup alreay installed on shared hosts, so I
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:08:03 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:51:29 -0400, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
>>
>>> It is not necesarily calling the parent class. It calls the
>>> initializer of the next class in the MRO order an
On 28 September 2012 17:26, Rolando Cañer Roblejo
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Please, I need you suggest me a way to get statistics about a progress of
> my python script. My python script could take a lot of time processing a
> file, so I need a way that an external program check the progress of the
> s
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:32 PM, FPEFPE wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:02:13 AM UTC-4, Kwpolska wrote:
>>
>> Python has problems with encoding the arguments to look properly with
>>
>> the crappy Windows cmd.exe encodings. They cannot be encoded for some
>>
>> reason. You may need ma
Steven D'Aprano scripsit :
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:08:03 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:51:29 -0400, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
>>>
It is not necesarily calling the parent class. It calls the
initializer
On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:05:16 UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
> For some time now, I've wanted to suggest a better abstraction for the
> type in Python. It currently uses an antiquated C-style interface for moving
> around in a file, with methods like tell() and seek(). But after attributes
Hi!
I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is ugly.
So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they are cute.
So, assuming you'll say me "learn python", why should I learn it o
On 09/29/2012 06:53 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hello,
I've created a 3.3 category on the buildbots:
http://buildbot.python.org/3.3/
http://buildbot.python.org/3.3.stable/
Someone will have to update the following HTML page:
http://python.org/dev/buildbot/
Should be done now.
Georg
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:58 PM, tcgo wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
> programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is ugly.
> So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they are cute.
> So, assum
On 09/30/12 07:58, tcgo wrote:
> So, assuming you'll say me "learn python", why should I learn it
> over Ruby?
For me, most of Chris's answers apply to both Python and Ruby.
Well, I can't speak regarding the Ruby community being as awesome,
but it doesn't seem to scare off folks.
*READABILITY* is
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:58 AM, tcgo wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
> programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is
> ugly. So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they
> are cute.
> So, assum
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
> there's no efficient and reliable way to change/reload code in a
> running application (not often an issue).
What we do (largely cribbed from django's runserver) is start up a
thread which once a second, looks at all the modules in sys.modules,
checks to
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> there's no efficient and reliable way to change/reload code in a
>> running application (not often an issue).
>
> What we do (largely cribbed from django's runserver) is start up a
> thread which once a
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> What I'm talking about is
> having a single process that never terminates, never stops accepting
> connections, but at some point new connections begin to be served with
> new code...
And to clarify, only the code that needs updating gets u
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Chris Angelico wrote:
> >
> >> there's no efficient and reliable way to change/reload code in a
> >> running application (not often an issue).
> >
> > What we do (largely cribbed from d
On Sep 30, 5:58 pm, tcgo wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
> programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is ugly.
> So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they are cute.
> So, assuming you'll say
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> Well, more strictly, what you need is to keep your state somewhere else.
> Doesn't have to be on disk. Could be in memory, if that memory belongs
> to another process (memcache, redis, or any of a number of in-memory
> databases).
Sure. I'll gen
On 30/09/2012 13:58, tcgo wrote:
Hi!
I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is ugly.
So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they are cute.
So, assuming you'll say me "lea
On 30 September 2012 13:58, tcgo wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
> programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is
> ugly. So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of them
> are cute.
> So, assuming y
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> at http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/news.html, there is now
> a rendering of Misc/NEWS with tracker links and a crude filtering
> capability. I thought that this will complement the "whatsnew"
> documents nicely for people looking for more
Has there been any official software that allows both the Python 2.x and
3.x releases to coexist on the same OS so that the end-user can easily
switch between them when invoking Python scripts after each has been
installed to their own directories/folders ?
I know of some unoffical solutions,
On 2012.09.30 14:14, Edward Diener wrote:
> The situation is so confusing on Windows, where the file associations,
> registry entries, and other internal software which allows a given
> Python release to work properly when invoking Python is so complicated,
> that I have given up on trying to in
Hello!
I'm still new to Python, so here's another easy one. After I save something
I've done as a .py file, how do I import it into something else I work on?
Every time I try to import something other than turtle or math, I get this
error message:
'module' object is not callable
What am I doi
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Peter Farrell
wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm still new to Python, so here's another easy one. After I save something
> I've done as a .py file, how do I import it into something else I work on?
> Every time I try to import something other than turtle or math, I get thi
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:42:37 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm still new to Python, so here's another easy one. After I save
> something I've done as a .py file, how do I import it into something
> else I work on? Every time I try to import something other than turtle
> or math, I get
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:42:37 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm still new to Python, so here's another easy one. After I save
> something I've done as a .py file, how do I import it into something
> else I work on? Every time I try to import something other than turtle
> or math, I get
On 30/09/12 21:42:37, Peter Farrell wrote:
> I'm still new to Python, so here's another easy one. After I save something
> I've done as a .py file, how do I import it into something else I work on?
> Every time I try to import something other than turtle or math, I get this
> error message:
>
> '
On 30 September 2012 02:27, Kevin Anthony wrote:
> I have a list of filenames, and i need to find files with the same name,
> different extensions, and split that into tuples. does anyone have any
> suggestions on an easy way to do this that isn't O(n^2)?
>>> import os, itertools
>>> filenames =
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
> you can't, for instance, retain a "socket connection object" across
> that sort of reload.
Yeah, that's a problem. There's nothing fundamental about a TCP
connection endpoint which precludes it being serialized and passed
around. The amount of state inv
In article
<4806a0b7-818a-4844-8286-f1b891a3c...@rj6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
rusi wrote:
> Here's a test to help you decide: How do you respond to the word
> 'magic'? If positive you will like Ruby, if not you may prefer
> Python.
Some might say that magic underscores a lot of the really
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> Yeah, that's a problem. There's nothing fundamental about a TCP
> connection endpoint which precludes it being serialized and passed
> around. The amount of state involved is pretty small. Unless I've
> forgotten something, 2 IP addresses, 2 po
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:17:17 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article
> <4806a0b7-818a-4844-8286-f1b891a3c...@rj6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> rusi wrote:
>
>> Here's a test to help you decide: How do you respond to the word
>> 'magic'? If positive you will like Ruby, if not you may prefer Python.
$ crontab -l
* * * * * env
This produces mail with the following contents:
HOME=/home/spjsf
LOGNAME=spjsf
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
PWD=/home/spjsf
SHELL=/bin/sh
SHLVL=1
USER=spjsf
_=/usr/bin/env
On the other hand
$ env
produces about 100 entries, most of which are provided by my .bashrc;
cron provid
Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole error
message. Now my problem is I just installed VPython and I'm trying to run the
very first example, bounce.py which I located. I opened it and ran it in Idle.
I got this message:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C
On 09/30/2012 08:11 PM, Jason Friedman wrote:
First comment: I don't know anything about an "environment file." An
environment is an attribute of a process, and it's inherited by
subprocesses that process launches. This is not a Python thing, it's an
OS thing, for whatever OS you're running.
>
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 12:15:57 AM UTC+8, Thomas Bach wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> say we have the following:
>
>
>
> >>> data = [('foo', 1), ('foo', 2), ('bar', 3), ('bar', 2)]
>
>
>
> is there a way to code a function iter_in_blocks such that
>
>
>
> >>> result = [ list(block) for bloc
On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Peter Farrell wrote:
You top-posted, which means there's no context; the message is now out
of order. Please put your responses after the parts you're quoting, or
don't bother quoting.
> Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole error
> message
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:11:09 -0600, Jason Friedman wrote:
> $ crontab -l
> * * * * * env
>
> This produces mail with the following contents:
[snip]
Yes, env returns the environment variables of the current environment.
> On the other hand
>
> $ env
>
> produces about 100 entries, most of whi
On 1 October 2012 01:35, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole error
> message. Now my problem is I just installed VPython and I'm trying to run
> the very first example, bounce.py which I located. I opened it and ran it
> in Idle. I got this m
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:35:02 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole
> error message. Now my problem is I just installed VPython and I'm trying
> to run the very first example, bounce.py which I located. I opened it
> and ran it in Idle. I
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:25:29 PM UTC-7, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:35:02 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole
>
> > error message. Now my problem is I just installed VPython and I'm trying
>
> > t
On 30 September 2012 23:08, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> On 30 September 2012 02:27, Kevin Anthony
> wrote:
> > I have a list of filenames, and i need to find files with the same name,
> > different extensions, and split that into tuples. does anyone have any
> > suggestions on an easy way to do t
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:35:50 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Since I use Python 3.2.3 I've had trouble with programs and modules
> designed for Python 2 and many programs don't work on my 64-bit system.
While Python tries very hard to be backward compatible, the transition
from the 2.x series to t
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:35:50 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Since I use Python 3.2.3 I've had trouble with programs and modules
> designed for Python 2 and many programs don't work on my 64-bit system.
While Python tries very hard to be backward compatible, the transition
from the 2.x series to t
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:35:50 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
>
>> Since I use Python 3.2.3 I've had trouble with programs and modules
>> designed for Python 2 and many programs don't work on my 64-bit system.
>
> While Python tries very hard t
Plus from What's New From Python 3", which are things you should be
able to change comes:
http://docs.python.org/release/3.0.1/whatsnew/3.0.html
Change the module yourself.
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On 9/30/2012 3:38 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 2012.09.30 14:14, Edward Diener wrote:
The situation is so confusing on Windows, where the file associations,
registry entries, and other internal software which allows a given
Python release to work properly when invoking Python is so complicated,
tha
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> Plus from What's New From Python 3", which are things you should be
> able to change comes:
>
> http://docs.python.org/release/3.0.1/whatsnew/3.0.html
>
> Change the module yourself.
>
>
And, of course:
http://docs.python.org/library/2to3.h
On 09/30/2012 09:35 PM, Peter Farrell wrote:
> On Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:25:29 PM UTC-7, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:35:02 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole
>>> error message. Now my problem is I j
On 2012.09.30 22:06, Edward Diener wrote:
> The problem with that is that one has to already being using 3.3 to use
> this facility. I was hoping for a solution which was backwards
> compatible with Python 2.x.
It's a separate tool that comes with 3.3. You can install 3.3 and never
use the actual
On 09/30/2012 11:06 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
> On 9/30/2012 3:38 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
>> On 2012.09.30 14:14, Edward Diener wrote:
>>> The situation is so confusing on Windows, where the file associations,
>>> registry entries, and other internal software which allows a given
>>> Python release t
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Jason Friedman wrote:
> $ env
>
> produces about 100 entries, most of which are provided by my .bashrc;
> cron provides only a limited number of environment variables.
>
> I want my python 3.2.2 script, called via cron, to know what those
> additional variables are
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:19:28 PM UTC-7, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 09/30/2012 09:35 PM, Peter Farrell wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:25:29 PM UTC-7, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:35:02 -0700, Peter Farrell wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>> Thanks for
On 28/09/12 12:57, Roy Smith wrote:
> But, you might as well get into the habit of
> using the /usr/bin/env flavor because it's more flexible.
In the same manner as one's freedom-fighter is another's fundamentalist
terrorist, what's flexible could be also dangerous. E.g.,
#!/usr/bin/env python
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:35:02 PM UTC-7, Peter Farrell wrote:
> Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole error
> message. Now my problem is I just installed VPython and I'm trying to run the
> very first example, bounce.py which I located. I opened it and ran it
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