On 4/8/2012 7:04, Bryan wrote:
Kiuhnm wrote:
My question is this: can I use 'threading' without interfering with the
program which will import my module?
Yes. The things to avoid are described at the bottom of:
http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html
On platforms without threads, 'impor
hi guys,
sorry am feeling a bit prolifit lately.
today's show, is: 〈Fuck Python〉
http://xahlee.org/comp/fuck_python.html
Fuck Python
By Xah Lee, 2012-04-08
fuck Python.
just fucking spend 2 hours and still going.
here's the short story.
so recently i swi
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 04:11:20 -0700, Xah Lee wrote:
[...]
I have read Xah Lee's post so that you don't have to.
Shorter Xah Lee:
"I don't know Python very well, and rather than admit I made
some pretty lousy design choices in my code, I blame Python.
And then I cross-post about it,
Congratulations. You just tried to treat Python as though it were a
hammer and your task as though it were a nail. And you bashed your
thumb while doing it. You also hurt yourself on Windows and blamed it
on Python. I'm afraid I'm fresh out of sympathy, won't get a new
shipment till tomorrow.
Chri
On Apr 8, 4:34 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 04:11:20 -0700, Xah Lee wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> I have read Xah Lee's post so that you don't have to.
>
> Shorter Xah Lee:
>
> "I don't know Python very well, and rather than admit I made
> some pretty lousy design choices in my
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:34:56 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I have read Xah Lee's post so that you don't have to.
Well, I certainly shall not be reading - or even seeing - any more of his
drivel.
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On 08/04/2012 12:11, Xah Lee wrote:
Hi Xah,
You clearly didn't want help on this subject, as you really now how to
do it anyway. But having read your posts over the years, I'd like to
give you an observation on your persona, free of charge! :-)
You are actually a talented writer, some may fi
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:34:56 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> When the only tool you know how to use is a hammer, everything looks
> like a nail. Instead of using regexes ("now you have two problems"), use
> the right tool: to count path components, split the path, then count the
> number of path c
In article , John Nagle
wrote:
> 1. Nobody is really in charge of third party packages. In the
> Perl world, there's a central repository, CPAN, and quality
> control. Python's "pypi" is just a collection of links. Many
> major packages are maintained by one person, and if they lose
> intere
On 04/08/12 09:11, HoneyMonster wrote:
Well, I certainly shall not be reading - or even seeing - any more of his
drivel.
Yes you will. There is always someone willing to include his entire
messages for a one line reply.
It's always September somewhere.
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Xah Lee wrote:
>hi guys,
>
>sorry am feeling a bit prolifit lately.
>
>today's show, is: 'Fuck Python'
>http://xahlee.org/comp/fuck_python.html
>
>
>Fuck Python
> By Xah Lee, 2012-04-08
>
>fuck Python.
>
>just fucking spend 2 hours and still going.
>
>here's th
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On 2012-04-08, David Canzi wrote:
> Xah Lee wrote:
>>hi guys,
>>
>>sorry am feeling a bit prolifit lately.
>>
>>today's show, is: 'Fuck Python'
>>http://xahlee.org/comp/fuck_python.html
>>
>>
>>Fuck Python
>> By X
On 2012-04-08 17:03, David Canzi wrote:
> If you added up the cost of all the extra work that people have
> done as a result of Microsoft's decision to use '\' as the file
> name separator, it would probably be enough money to launch the
> Burj Khalifa into geosynchronous orbit.
So we have anothe
"David Canzi" wrote:
>Xah Lee wrote:
Please check whom you are replying to.
Do not feed the trolls, please.
jue
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> 8. Opening a URL can result in an unexpected prompt on
> standard input if the URL has authentication. This can
> stall servers.
Can you give an example? I don't think anything in the standard library does
that.
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On 4/8/2012 7:11 AM, Xah Lee wrote:
so recently i switched to a Windows version of python. Now, Windows
version takes path using win backslash, instead of cygwin slash.
Python passes strings to Windows functions as the user requests. In
spite of the fact that command.com and cmd.exe (command
How may I get a fresh Python shell with Idle 3.2 ?
I have to run the same modules several times with all
variables cleared.
Thanks,
franck
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On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Miki Tebeka wrote:
>> 8. Opening a URL can result in an unexpected prompt on
>> standard input if the URL has authentication. This can
>> stall servers.
> Can you give an example? I don't think anything in the standard library does
> that.
I just threw together
I am using the python module nfqueue-bindings which is a nfqueue
packet intercepting module. It uses the following snippet of code to
start the process:
print "trying to run"
try:
q.try_run()
except KeyboardInterrupt, e:
print "interrupted"
The q.try_run() method blocks. I would
On 4/8/2012 10:55 AM, Miki Tebeka wrote:
8. Opening a URL can result in an unexpected prompt on
standard input if the URL has authentication. This can
stall servers.
Can you give an example? I don't think anything in the standard library does
that.
It's in "urllib". See
http://
On 2012-04-08, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2012-04-08 17:03, David Canzi wrote:
>> If you added up the cost of all the extra work that people have
>> done as a result of Microsoft's decision to use '\' as the file
>> name separator, it would probably be enough money to launch the
>> Burj Khalifa
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> Not only can compilers compress storage by recognizing that string literals
> are
> the suffixes of other string literals, but a lot of string manipulation code
> is
> simplified, because you can treat a pointer to interior of any string as a
On Mar 2, 6:42 am, lkcl wrote:
> ah. right. you're either referring to pyjampiler (in the pyjs
> world) or to
> [...]
> the former actually got taken to an extreme by a group who embedded
> the pyjs 0.5 compiler into their application environment, i keep
> forgetting
> what it's called.
* Grzegorz Staniak wrote:
> On 06.04.2012, rusi wroted:
>
>> There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
>
> Then again, practicality beats purity.
Yes.
If you ever grepped for, say, the usage of dictionary keys in a bigger
application, you might agree, that having mu
On 03/30/2012 06:25 AM, Steve Howell wrote:
On Mar 29, 11:53 am, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
Well, what sort of language differences make for English vs Mandarin?
Relational algebraic-style programming is useful, but definitely a
large language barrier to people that don't know any SQL. I think th
Le 08/04/2012 02:56, Vinay Sajip a écrit :
Thibaut gmail.com> writes:
This is exactly what I wanted, it seems perfect. However I still have a
question, from what I understood,
I have to configure logging AFTER creating the process, to avoid
children process to inherits the logging config.
Un
On Apr 8, 2:45 pm, "superhac...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> I am using the python module nfqueue-bindings which is a nfqueue
> packet intercepting module. It uses the following snippet of code to
> start the process:
>
> print "trying to run"
> try:
> q.try_run()
> except KeyboardInterrupt, e:
On Sunday, April 8, 2012 3:55:41 PM UTC-5, Adam Skutt wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2:45 pm, "superhac...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
> > I am using the python module nfqueue-bindings which is a nfqueue
> > packet intercepting module. It uses the following snippet of code to
> > start the process:
> >
> > print "tr
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> Poul-Henning Kamp nominated the C/Unix guys:
>
> http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2010365
Besides what Kaz and Chris wrote, the suggestion that if they had
chosen ptr+len format then we wouldn't have buffer overflows is
erroneous. There
"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
news:20120408114313...@kylheku.com...
Worse, the one byte Unix mistake being covered is, disappointingly, just a
clueless rant against null-terminated strings.
Null-terminated strings are infinitely better than the ridiculous
encapsulation of length + data.
For
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 04:11:20 -0700, Xah Lee wrote:
> Ok no problem. My sloppiness. After all, my implementation wasn't
> portable. So, let's fix it. After a while, discovered there's the
> os.sep. Ok, replace "/" to os.sep, done. Then, bang, all hell
> went lose. Because, the backslash is used as
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> The main reason, as I recall, for the command line using \ for file
> paths is that it inherited / as command OPTION prefix from CP/M; MS-DOS
> being a 32-bit work-alike for CP/M in the first generation.
I also thought it was becau
Hello,
I am new to Python and began using pygame to start some game programming. I
was hoping someone could help me out with something that seems simple but is
really confusing me.
I am creating a rect and then using the attributes of the rect to set the size
and location.
I set rect.left to
On 04/08/2012 08:04 PM, David Robinow wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
> wrote:
>>The main reason, as I recall, for the command line using \ for file
>> paths is that it inherited / as command OPTION prefix from CP/M; MS-DOS
>> being a 32-bit work-alike for CP/M
On 04/08/2012 07:58 PM, Scott Siegler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am new to Python and began using pygame to start some game programming. I
> was hoping someone could help me out with something that seems simple but is
> really confusing me.
>
> I am creating a rect and then using the attributes of th
Kiuhnm wrote:
> I have a decorator which takes an optional argument that tells me
> whether I should use locks.
> Maybe I could import 'threading' only if needed. If the user wants to
> use locks I'll assume that 'threading' is available on his/her system.
Use of dummy_threading might be cleaner.
On Apr 8, 5:52 pm, superhac...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, April 8, 2012 3:55:41 PM UTC-5, Adam Skutt wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 2:45 pm, "superhac...@gmail.com"
> > wrote:
> > > I am using the python module nfqueue-bindings which is a nfqueue
> > > packet intercepting module. It uses the following s
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> The WinXP machine would need to have X-client translator (something
> that redirects all the Windows native graphics into X protocol and ships
> it to the specified server machine).
>
> As I recall -- such are not cheap appli
Xah Lee wrote:
« http://xahlee.org/comp/fuck_python.html »
David Canzi wrote
«When Microsoft created MS-DOS, they decided to use '\' as the
separator in file names. Â This was at a time when several previously
existing interactive operating systems were using '/' as the file name
separator an
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Xah Lee wrote:
> because, slash is one of the useful char, far more so than backslash.
> Users should be able to use that for file names.
>
Users should be able to use EVERY character for their file names. So
here's a solution. Your path separator is the byte 0xFF,
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