Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference

2011-11-26 Thread Matt Joiner
http://pyjs.org/ On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Sells, Fred wrote: > I'm looking at a variation on this theme.  I currently use > Flex/ActionScript for client side work, but there is pressure to move > toward HTML5+Javascript and or iOS.  Since I'm an old hand at Python, I > was wondering if th

sick of distribute, setup, and all the rest...

2011-11-26 Thread kj
it's an all-out disgrace. when is python going to get a decent module distribution system??? and don't tell me to do it myself: it's clear that the sorry situation we have now is precisely that too many programmers without the requisite expertise or policy-making authority have decided to pitch

Re: sick of distribute, setup, and all the rest...

2011-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:40:28 +, kj wrote: > it's an all-out disgrace. > > when is python going to get a decent module distribution system??? Python 4.3, scheduled for March 2038. It's been ready for a few years now, and a small secret coterie of privileged developers have been using it for

Re: sick of distribute, setup, and all the rest...

2011-11-26 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 14:22 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > when is python going to get a decent module distribution system??? > > Python 4.3, scheduled for March 2038. It's been ready for a few years > now, and a small secret coterie of privileged developers have been > using > it for their o

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-26 Thread MaxTheMouse
On Nov 26, 1:13 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:26:31 -0800 (PST), Mark Tolonen > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > > Changing the application defaults is now in "Default Programs" right > > on the Start Menu.  It's more "obvious" than the old locat

Re: Return of an old friend

2011-11-26 Thread rusi
On Nov 25, 7:19 am, Rick Johnson wrote: > Hello Fellow Pythonistas, > > I am very glad to be back after an unfortunate incident caused my > Google account to be deleted. Unfortunately for those of you that have > been following along and supporting my crusade to bring fairness and > humility to th

Re: sick of distribute, setup, and all the rest...

2011-11-26 Thread rusi
On Nov 26, 6:40 pm, kj wrote: > it's an all-out disgrace. > > when is python going to get a decent module distribution system??? > > and don't tell me to do it myself: it's clear that the sorry > situation we have now is precisely that too many programmers without > the requisite expertise or poli

Re: Return of an old friend

2011-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:11 AM, rusi wrote: > Hi Rick! > Glad to see you back! > [Courts can be dull places without jesters ye-know!] So, what... you'd take someone to court for being funny? That sounds like the -other- Pythons. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: sick of distribute, setup, and all the rest...

2011-11-26 Thread Rick Johnson
On Nov 26, 11:28 am, rusi wrote: > On Nov 26, 6:40 pm, kj wrote: > The only thing I disagree about is that GvR is 'top' enough to handle > this. For a concrete example of how uninterested Mr. Van Rossum has become, take a look at the gawd awful state of Tkinter and especially IDLE. Whist I appla

Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference

2011-11-26 Thread Alec Taylor
Consider implementing OOP, reflection and implement in HLA or C =] On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Travis Parks wrote: > Hello: > > I am currently working on designing a new programming language. It is > a compiled language, but I still want to use Python as a reference. > Python has a lot of

Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference

2011-11-26 Thread Rick Johnson
On Nov 20, 6:46 pm, Travis Parks wrote: > Hello: > > I am currently working on designing a new programming language. It is > a compiled language, but I still want to use Python as a reference. > Python has a lot of similarities to my language, such as indentation > for code blocks, I hope you mea

Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference

2011-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > I hope you meant to say "*forced* indention for code blocks"! "Forced" > being the key word here. What about tabs over spaces, have you decided > the worth of one over the other or are you going to repeat Guido's > folly? I recommend demandin

Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference

2011-11-26 Thread Rick Johnson
On Nov 26, 1:34 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Rick Johnson > > wrote: > > I hope you meant to say "*forced* indention for code blocks"! "Forced" > > being the key word here. What about tabs over spaces, have you decided > > the worth of one over the other or are you

Pragmatics of the standard is() function

2011-11-26 Thread candide
In which cases should we use the is() function ? The is() function compares identity of objects rather than values so I was wondering in which circumstances comparing identities of objects is really vital. Examining well reputated Python source code, I realize that is() function is mainly used

Re: Pragmatics of the standard is() function

2011-11-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article <4ed15825$0$21841$426a3...@news.free.fr>, candide wrote: > In which cases should we use the is() function ? The is() function > compares identity of objects rather than values so I was wondering in > which circumstances comparing identities of objects is really vital. > > Examining

tkinter

2011-11-26 Thread Dave
http://forums.devshed.com/python-programming-11/setting-tkinter-checkbox-default-graphical-state-865148.html Please answer this question I failed to resolve. Thanks, Dave. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pragmatics of the standard is() function

2011-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, candide wrote: > is() function makes comparaison of (abstract representation of) adresses of > objects in memory. Comparing addresses of objects is a low level feature > performed by low level langages such as C but seldom needed in high level > languages like Pyth

Re: Pragmatics of the standard is() function

2011-11-26 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 26.11.2011 22:20, candide wrote: You already got answers for the "is" vs. "==" difference. I'd like to add the following. In which cases should we use the is() function ? "is" is not a function, It's an operator, just like == or +. is() function makes comparaison of (abstract represent

Re: Pragmatics of the standard is() function

2011-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:20:36 +0100, candide wrote: > In which cases should we use the is() function ? The is() function > compares identity of objects rather than values so I was wondering in > which circumstances comparing identities of objects is really vital. `is` is not a function. It is a ke

Re: tkinter

2011-11-26 Thread Jason Swails
The problem is that the logMode1 reference is _only_ bound to the name logMode1. Assigning it to "variable" in the Checkbutton instance (logCheck1) does not actually generate a reference to that variable inside logCheck1. Therefore, once the initialize method terminates, all references to logM

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread 88888 Dihedral
On Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:01:34 AM UTC+8, rusi wrote: > On Nov 14, 3:41 pm, Tracubik wrote: > > Hi all, > > i'm developing a new program. > > Mission: learn a bit of database management > > Idea: create a simple, 1 window program that show me a db of movies i've > > seen with few (<10) fiel

Re: Pragmatics of the is operator

2011-11-26 Thread candide
Thanks to all for your response. Le 27/11/2011 00:01, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:20:36 +0100, candide wrote: In which cases should we use the is() function ? The is() function compares identity of objects rather than values so I was wondering in which circumstances compa

Re: Pragmatics of the is operator

2011-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:42 PM, candide wrote: > So, for the same reason, wouldn't it be better to use "if spam is True" > against to "if spam == True"  (or better "if spam") ? > They're quite different. "if spam" will check the truthiness of spam - it's equivalent to "if bool(spam) is True"; "

myComboBox.SetValue() does not work in windows.

2011-11-26 Thread Illy
Dear friends Anybody know how can I change the text of a ComboBox? Because " myComboBox.SetValue("my text") " does not work on Windows. Anybody would be so nice for telling me complete reference/documentation about wxPython on windows? Because the wxPython between on Linux and on Windows a

Re: How to keep Console area fixed for a thread

2011-11-26 Thread Dave Angel
On 11/25/2011 01:00 PM, Nikunj Badjatya wrote: Can anyone throw some light on this please ! ? ( when you top-post, you confuse things. comp.lang.python follows the usual convention of putting new material after the parts you're quoting. Further, trying to embed images inside html messages

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread Dave Angel
On 11/26/2011 06:41 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: On Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:01:34 AM UTC+8, rusi wrote: On Nov 14, 3:41 pm, Tracubik wrote: Hi all, i'm developing a new program. Mission: learn a bit of database management Idea: create a simple, 1 window program that show me a db of movies i

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Dave Angel wrote: > If you're using Python, you already have a "fast hash" library, in the > dictionary class. And yes, if a problem doesn't need the full > generality of a database, you may be able to implement it with > dictionaries, and it may even be practical to store those

Re: Pragmatics of the is operator

2011-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:42:52 +0100, candide wrote: >> Even if you can guarantee that your code base does not contain any >> object which compares equal to None except for None itself (and how >> would you do that? a full audit of every line of code in every library >> you use?), the use of `is` sh

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread 88888 Dihedral
On Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:49:20 AM UTC+8, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Dave Angel wrote: > > > If you're using Python, you already have a "fast hash" library, in the > > dictionary class. And yes, if a problem doesn't need the full > > generality of a database, you may be able to i

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 2:14 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: > Shared in access in a local lan or a wide wan? > That question isn't inherent to databasiness; it might not even be network-shared at all - in fact, most database-driven web sites have a database that's accessible only from localhost (which

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread Dave Angel
On 11/26/2011 10:14 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: On Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:49:20 AM UTC+8, Roy Smith wrote: This is a good point. In general, databases differ from in-memory data structures in that they provide: 1) Persistence 2) Data integrity 3) Shared access Shared in access in a loc

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article <26232548.146.1322363676465.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pruu5>, 8 Dihedral wrote: > > In general, databases differ from in-memory data > > structures in that they provide: > > > > 1) Persistence > > > > 2) Data integrity > > > > 3) Shared access > > Shared in access in a

Re: my new project, is this the right way?

2011-11-26 Thread Matt Joiner
Sounds like you want a key-value store. If it's a lot of data, you may still want a "database", I think it's just relational databases that you're trying to avoid? On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM, 8 Dihedral wrote: > On Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:01:34 AM UTC+8, rusi wrote: >> On Nov 14,