On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm
happy to announce the release of Python 2.4.6 and 2.5.3 (final).
2.5.3 is the last bug fix release of Python 2.5. Future 2.5.x releases
will only include security fixes. According to the release notes, about
80 bugs and patches
Joel Hedlund wrote:
Scott David Daniels wrote:
Perhaps your hash function could be something like:
I'm not sure I understand what you're suggesting.
/Joel
Sorry, a half-thought out idea based on the fact that you wanted a
consistent hash for a varying dictionary. The given dictionary subcl
On Dec 19, 12:44 pm, r wrote:
> ~Michael,
> What’s next down this road of self destruction? Hey guys, forget about
> about empty parenthesis on a function/method call, we should not have
> to waste are time typing them… Wait forget about them all together and
> we will just write Ruby code…
>
> D
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>> Currently I am trying to get used to Python's imaplib and email
>> modules.
>> I'like to create a webmail client simmilar to GMail.
>
> This is off-topic, but why on earth would you want to emulate Gmail's
> conversation vi
Hi!
This info is interesting for many people.
IMO, it's a good idea to write the question in this newsgroup.
@-salutations
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:44:25 -0800, r wrote:
> ~Bearophile,
> Thanks for your civil approach to this conversation but I must disagree
> with you on the new string formatting syntax. You said the new syntax is
> suppost to be easier on the n00b , I say it pollutes a students mind.
> What is wrong w
Here's my problem (it's a conceptual one). Coming from the world of
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that matter, couldn't put the pieces together in a usable way.
Let me start simply: If I wanted
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:20:07 -0700, Joe Strout wrote:
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
>
>>> The question is why the Python interpreter use the default encoding
>>> instead of "utf-8", which I explicitly declared in the source.
>>
>> Because the declaration is only for decoding unicode literals
Michael Torrie writes:
> Personally the new string formatter is sorely needed in Python. And
> they way it has been implemented is a thing of beauty. Basically the
> burden of formatting strings has been moved from the print
> statement/function to the objects themselves.
This doesn't describe a
Hello All Experts,
I am quite new to Ctypes. I am using one c library and writing python
bindings for it.
I need to pass a character pointer to one function.
I am reading one mp3 file and decoding it to raw pcm using pymedia.
Now I need to pass this raw data in to a
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Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
And because strings in Python, unlike in (say) REALbasic, do not know
their encoding -- they're just a string of bytes. If they were a string
of bytes PLUS an encoding, then every string would know what it is, and
things like conversion to another encoding, or co
On 19 Dec, 19:52, excord80 wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2:42 pm, Alan G Isaac wrote:
>
> > Mark Summerfield wrote:
> > > "Programming in Python 3:
> > > A Complete Introduction to the Python Language"
> > > ISBN 0137129297
> > >http://www.qtrac.eu/py3book.html
>
> > OMG, you really wrote it in Lout?
> > I
On 2008-12-19, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:47:18 -0800 (PST), Martin wrote:
>>Currently I am trying to get used to Python's imaplib and email
>>modules.
>>I'like to create a webmail client simmilar to GMail.
>
> I'd suggest using Twisted's IMAP4 client. It's somewhat easi
I'm importing an extension module created with SWIG. When working with
the module interactively in IDLE there should be warning and error
messages printed to stderr by the extension module. However, these are
not being caught by the IDLE window, they are going directly to the
terminal that was used
r wrote:
[...]
> Like Python’s forcing of empty tuple in function calls, that is a good
> idea. This allows you to clearly see arguments in source code. I like
> in Python there is only one, or a very minimal number of ways to do
> something(but usually only one is the best). Ruby is littered with
MRAB writes:
> Federico Moreira wrote:
>> Great, 2min 34 secs with the open method =)
>>
>> but why?
>>
>> ip, sep, rest = line.partition(' ')
>>match_counter[ip] += 1
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> match_counter[line.strip()[0]] += 1
>>
>> strip really takes more time than partition?
>>
>> I'm h
Based on examples and formulas from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaro-Winkler.
Useful for measuring similarity between two strings. For example if
you want to detect that the user did a typo.
def jarow(s1,s2):
""" Returns a number between 1 and 0, where 1 is the most similar
examp
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:20:08 -0700, Joe Strout wrote:
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
>
>>> And because strings in Python, unlike in (say) REALbasic, do not know
>>> their encoding -- they're just a string of bytes. If they were a
>>> string of bytes PLUS an encoding, then every string would k
Allan wrote:
David Lees writes:
PythonWin used to startup in a second or two on my Windows XP
desktop. now it takes around 20 seconds. I tried turning off Google
Desktop indexing and Norton AV, but it still takes a long time to
start. Other random apps such as Firefox 3.0 (which I just updat
Brian Cole wrote:
I'm importing an extension module created with SWIG. When working with
the module interactively in IDLE there should be warning and error
messages printed to stderr by the extension module. However, these are
not being caught by the IDLE window, they are going directly to the
te
On Dec 20, 10:02 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:20:08 -0700, Joe Strout wrote:
> > Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
>
> >>> And because strings in Python, unlike in (say) REALbasic, do not know
> >>> their encoding -- they're just a string of bytes. If they were a
> >
excord80 wrote:
On Dec 19, 11:01 am, walterbyrd wrote:
To me, it seems that this:
print "%s=%d" % ('this',99)
Is much easier, ...
This (if it's right) is much longer, ...
print( "{0}={1}".format('this',99))
Yeah, I like the old way better too. It's got this nice elegant
simplicity to it (usi
Michal,
I'm seeing this on fc8 with a custom built python2.6. Not happening
with any other packages (e.g. boto). Workaround of course was just to
copy the S3 dir to /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages.
I poked around a bit but nothing obvious jumped out. Happy to do any
debugging if you hav
Brian Cole wrote:
I'm importing an extension module created with SWIG. When working with
the module interactively in IDLE there should be warning and error
messages printed to stderr by the extension module. However, these are
not being caught by the IDLE window, they are going directly to the
te
> Here's my problem (it's a conceptual one). Coming from the world of
> mod_php, each file can represent a page with no intervention. I was
> not able to achieve the same with mod_python when I tried, and for
> that matter, couldn't put the pieces together in a usable way.
>
> Let me start simply:
Thomas Heller wrote:
Mark Summerfield schrieb:
Just a follow-up to say that the book has now been published in the
U.S.
It is now in stock at InformIT, and should reach other stores, e.g.,
Amazon, in a week or so.
Also, the introduction, the first few pages of the first chapter, the
whole of ch
Stefan Behnel wrote:
Thomas Heller wrote:
Mark Summerfield schrieb:
Just a follow-up to say that the book has now been published in the
U.S.
It is now in stock at InformIT, and should reach other stores, e.g.,
Amazon, in a week or so.
Also, the introduction, the first few pages of the first ch
Steve Holden wrote:
Thomas Heller wrote:
Mark Summerfield schrieb:
Just a follow-up to say that the book has now been published in the
U.S.
It is now in stock at InformIT, and should reach other stores, e.g.,
Amazon, in a week or so.
Also, the introduction, the first few pages of the first cha
On Dec 20, 10:02 am, Øyvind wrote:
> Based on examples and formulas fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaro-Winkler.
For another Python implementation, google "febrl".
> Useful for measuring similarity between two strings. For example if
> you want to detect that the user did a typo.
You mean lik
Thomas Heller wrote:
Steve Holden schrieb:
Thomas Heller wrote:
Question from a non-native english speaker: is this now valid english?
"One of Python’s great strengths"
^
"and also teaches Python’s functional programming features"
^
"The book
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On Dec 19, 1:43 pm, excord80 wrote:
snip cons of Python
> But, Python is Python.
It's always surprising to me to hear this, but especially so in
writing.
It speech, it has connotations. A millionaire can say (dismissively),
"Two bucks is two bucks." A poor person can say (wondrously), "Two
bu
Scott,
Oh, so Python 3.0 is an Equal Opportunity Enigma, now i get it :D
Steve,
Obviously i was referring to the look, not the actuality of a tuple
Marc,
Why move away from a concise and widely accepted way of sting
formatting, just to supposedly make it a little easier for n00bs?
(which i disagr
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:55:01 -0800, bearophileHUGS wrote:
> C string formatting is short and a flexible enough, but it's out of
> place in a language as high level as Python3. The new syntax allows more
> flexibility, and it's better for most people that don't know C already,
> like newbies, etc.
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Øyvind wrote:
> Based on examples and formulas from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaro-Winkler.
> Useful for measuring similarity between two strings. For example if
> you want to detect that the user did a typo.
Jaro-Winkler is best when dealing with
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:25:30 -0700, Michael Torrie wrote:
> So funny that now that Python 3.0 is actually released we have people
> acting all surprised like they've never seen any of the new features in
> Python 3.0 coming. However these features have been discussed for
> years! And debated!
D
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:44:25 -0800, r wrote:
> And lets not forget Python forcing of indention, that is Pythons
> greatest strength!
Oh "r", haven't you heard? Python has braces too. Just start your code
with
from __future__ import braces
and see what happens.
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Colin J. Williams wrote:
> Steve Holden wrote:
>> Thomas Heller wrote:
[...]
>>> Question from a non-native english speaker: is this now valid english?
>>>
>>> "One of Python’s great strengths"
>>> ^
>>> "and also teaches Python’s functional programming features"
>>>
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:53:22 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote:
> Steve Holden schrieb:
>> Thomas Heller wrote:
>>> Question from a non-native english speaker: is this now valid english?
>>>
>>> "One of Python’s great strengths"
>>> ^
>>> "and also teaches Python’s functional program
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:32:22 -0500, Colin J. Williams wrote:
(Fixing broken unicode.)
>> Question from a non-native english speaker: is this now valid english?
>>
>> "One of Python's great strengths"
>> ^
>> "and also teaches Python's functional programming features"
>>
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:10:59 +0100, Christian Heimes wrote about %
formatting in Python 3:
> It's not going to be removed for many years - if ever. The % string
> formatting system is not deprecated in 3.0. For that very reason it must
> stay until 3.2. We don't have plans to deprecate it in 3.1
On Dec 19, 7:12 pm, r wrote:
> Marc,
> Why move away from a concise and widely accepted way of sting
> formatting, just to supposedly make it a little easier for n00bs?
You were the one that brought it up, chief. I doubt anyone is arguing
that this new formating was added just to make things eas
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:53:22 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote:
Steve Holden schrieb:
Thomas Heller wrote:
Question from a non-native english speaker: is this now valid english?
"One of Python’s great strengths"
^
"and also teaches Python’s functional prog
On Dec 19, 12:10 pm, Christian Heimes wrote:
> walterbyrd schrieb:
>
> > On Dec 19, 9:13 am, "Giampaolo Rodola'" wrote:
> >> You can use the old 2.x syntax also in Python 3.x:
>
> > Yeah, but it's deprecated, and - as I understand it - may be removed
> > completely in future versions. Also, in th
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:05:42 -0800, Scott David Daniels wrote:
> Ah, but for internationalization, you can change the format string to
> take args in a different order if, for example, French messages want
> modifiers on one side and English on the other. The code can stay the
> same, while only t
I have a lot of repetitive assignments to make, within a generator, that use a
function outside the generator:
var1 = func("var1", args)
var2 = func("var2", args)
var3 = func("var3", args)
etc...
In each case the args are identical, but the first argument is a string of the
name being assigned.
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:35:20 -0500, Colin J. Williams wrote:
> Steve Holden wrote:
>> Thomas Heller wrote:
(Fixing broken unicode again)
>>> "One of Python's great strengths"
>>> ^
>>> "and also teaches Python's functional programming features"
>>> ^
John O'Hagan wrote:
I have a lot of repetitive assignments to make, within a generator, that use a
function outside the generator:
var1 = func("var1", args)
var2 = func("var2", args)
var3 = func("var3", args)
etc...
In each case the args are identical, but the first argument is a string of the
Quoth Steven D'Aprano :
>The second exception is if the word ends with an S. In British English,
>you put the apostrophe after the S:
>
>Thomas' approach is wholly practical.
>
>In American English, they often (but not always) add an extra S:
>
>Thomas's approach is wholly practical.
>
>which in my
Terry Reedy wrote:
John O'Hagan wrote:
I have a lot of repetitive assignments to make, within a generator,
that use a function outside the generator:
var1 = func("var1", args)
var2 = func("var2", args)
var3 = func("var3", args)
etc...
In each case the args are identical, but the first argumen
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:12:00 -0800, r wrote:
> Why move away from a concise and widely accepted way of sting
> formatting, just to supposedly make it a little easier for n00bs? (which
> i disagree this is easier) In turn, creating more syntactical clutter.
> (%s %f %d) is all you need to remember.
Thanks Steven,
We need a real Pepsi challenge here to show the insignificance of this
change. I am not against change. But when we lose something as -
compact- as %formating i'm going to want to see a damn good reason for
it! Especially when this breaks code, and the "French Connection" is
not good
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:53:16 +, MRAB wrote:
> If you're sure you want to use the current namespace then:
>
> for name in namelist:
> vars()[name] = func(name, args)
Doesn't work inside a function:
>>> def parrot():
... for name in ['A', 'B', 'C']:
... vars()[na
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:54:35 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> There clearly is a need for a more heavyweight formatting solution than
> % and string.Template. There are things that can't be done easily with %
> alone, and format() will make them much simpler. I have no objection to
> the addition o
Same requirement here.
But isnt there any mod_python for Python 3.0 ?
Or do we need to build it from source ourselves ?
I was hoping there would be mod_wsgi binaries for Python 3.0.
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:25:30 -0700, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
>> So funny that now that Python 3.0 is actually released we have people
>> acting all surprised like they've never seen any of the new features in
>> Python 3.0 coming. However these features have been discussed
r wrote:
> Thanks Steven,
> We need a real Pepsi challenge here to show the insignificance of this
> change. I am not against change. But when we lose something as -
> compact- as %formating i'm going to want to see a damn good reason for
> it! Especially when this breaks code, and the "French Conn
Quoth Steven D'Aprano :
> Whether using % or format(), I don't see the need to change the code,
> only the strings.
>
> Using positional arguments is not really that different:
>
> "{0} {1}".format("dead", "parrot")
> "{0} {1}".format("perroquet", "mort")
This should be something like:
_("{0}
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
I don't see the shortcoming in Python <3.0. If you want real strings
with characters instead of just a bunch of bytes simply use `unicode`
objects instead of `str`.
Fair enough -- that certainly is the best policy. But working with any
other encoding (sometimes
On Dec 19, 10:04 pm, Steve Holden wrote:
> r wrote:
> > Thanks Steven,
> > We need a real Pepsi challenge here to show the insignificance of this
> > change. I am not against change. But when we lose something as -
> > compact- as %formating i'm going to want to see a damn good reason for
> > it!
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