Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread J�rgen Exner
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> And yes, it sucks in major ways. >> > Oh my God, I don't want to, but I just have to ask: Why? Because TeX has nothing to do with either Perl, Python, Lisp, Java, or functional programming. jue -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 12:19 -0400, Lew wrote: > [something attackish] > > Well, you are making a personal attack, it's dangerous. I wish to see > only discussions about TeX ;; > On a python group? Also: Lew won't see your post, he's on c.l.java.* /W -- http://mail.pyt

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Jürgen Exner wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >> Joachim Durchholz wrote: >>> And yes, it [syntactically] sucks in major ways. >>> >> Oh my God, I don't want to, but I just have to ask: Why? > > Because TeX has nothing to do with either Perl, Python, Lisp, Java, or > functional programming.

[0..9] list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread Michal Bozon
many Python newcomers are confused why range(10), does not include 10. If there was a proposal for the new syntax for ranges, which is known e.g. from Pascal or Ruby... >>> [0..10] [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] ...is there a chance to be approved ? We have had a short discussion on it at t

Re: Adding idle timeout capabilities to asyncore

2007-10-24 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
On 23 Ott, 17:34, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22 Ott, 12:28, Giampaolo Rodola' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi there. > > We're talking about an asyncore-based server. > > Just for the heck of it I'd like to set a timeout which will > > disconnects the clients if they

Re: Iteration for Factorials

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tim Golden napisa (a): > > > It's only a moment before the metaclass and > > the Twisted solution come along. :) > > I couldn't resist. It's not as elegant as I hoped, but hey, at least > it memoizes the intermediate classes :-) > > class fact_0(object

Re: Python and Combinatorics

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 24, 5:20 pm, none <""atavory\"@(none)"> wrote: > Hello, > > Is there some package to calculate combinatorical stuff like (n over > k), i.e., n!/(k!(n - k!) ? Sure, the gmpy module. >>> import gmpy >>> for m in xrange(10): for n in xrange(m+1): print

Re: [0..9] list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Michal Bozon wrote: > many Python newcomers are confused why > range(10), does not include 10. > It produces a list of ten elements. Also the documentation is quite clear on the topic. And lastly: This will probably really bother you for a week, then no more. > If there was a proposal for the

Re: list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 24, 5:44 pm, Michal Bozon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > many Python newcomers are confused why > range(10), does not include 10. How can they be confused? Does base 10 have a digit ten? Does base 2 have a digit two? Does base 16 have a digit sixteen? Haven't you stopped counting on your f

Re: Python and Combinatorics

2007-10-24 Thread none
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Oct 24, 5:20 pm, none <""atavory\"@(none)"> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there some package to calculate combinatorical stuff like (n over >> k), i.e., n!/(k!(n - k!) ? > > Sure, the gmpy module. > Excellent, many thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: Wrapping stdout in a codec

2007-10-24 Thread JKPeck
On Oct 22, 12:20 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:41:17 +, JKPeck wrote: > > We want to wrap the stdout device in a codec in order to decode output > > transparently according to a particular code page (which might not be > > the system code page)

Re: Cross-platform GUI development

2007-10-24 Thread bramble
On Oct 23, 2:59 pm, "Chris Mellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/23/07, maco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Oct 13, 12:34 am, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Qt doesn't look very native on my desktop. In fact, Qt apps have always > > > looked out of place on a Gnome

Re: Cross-platform GUI development

2007-10-24 Thread bramble
On Oct 12, 6:30 am, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd recommend wxPython over those becase > > 1) native look and feel on all platforms > 2) doesn't require expensive licensing for non-commercial apps (QT) > 3) Isn't a pain to install on windows (GTK) > > That said, times change an

Re: [0..9] list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread Michal Bozon
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:16:57 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Michal Bozon wrote: >> many Python newcomers are confused why >> range(10), does not include 10. >> > It produces a list of ten elements. Also the documentation is quite > clear on the topic. And lastly: This will probably really

access.db : sendmail hash map file

2007-10-24 Thread equand
is there a way to open it? and edit? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:28:20 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Oct 24, 5:44 pm, Michal Bozon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> many Python newcomers are confused why range(10), does not include 10. > > How can they be confused? Because in common English, counting starts at 1 and ranges normally

Re: Is this a wx bug?

2007-10-24 Thread kyosohma
On Oct 23, 7:06 pm, Chris Carlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > > #!/usr/bin/env python > > """From listing 3.3 in 'wxPython in Action' > Demonstrates that something funny happens when you click&hold in the > frame, then drag the mouse over the button window. The > wx.EVT_ENTER_WINDOW event is

Re: building a linux executable

2007-10-24 Thread Carl Banks
On Oct 24, 5:08 pm, Prateek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 24, 5:25 pm, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 24 Okt, 14:20, Bjoern Schliessmann > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm sorry I cannot help, but how many linux distros have no python > > > installed or no packages of

RE: list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread Ryan Ginstrom
> On Behalf Of Steven D'Aprano > Because in common English, counting starts at 1 and ranges > normally include both end points (that is, it is a "closed" > interval). If you say "I'll be away from the 4th to the 7th" > and then turn up on the 7th, nearly everyone will wonder why > you're back a

Re: Iteration for Factorials

2007-10-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Lou Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There might even be an array method that can be adapted to get the > product. Is there a product method? (analogous to a sum method) The "reduce" function which is being removed from python in 3.0. import operator def factorial(n): return reduce(operat

Re: Iteration for Factorials

2007-10-24 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It's only a moment before the metaclass and > > the Twisted solution come along. :) > > I couldn't resist. It's not as elegant as I hoped, but hey, at least > it memoizes the intermediate classes :-) It gets even weirder in Haskell. http://www.willamette.edu/~fruehr

delineating by comma where commas inside quotation marks don't count

2007-10-24 Thread Junior
I want to open a text file for reading and delineate it by comma. I also want any data surrounded by quotation marks that has a comma in it, not to count the commas inside the quotation marks if the file testfile.txt contains the following; 5,Tuesday,"May is a spring month",Father's Day 1,Satu

Professional Grant Proposal Writing Workshop (December 2007: Seattle, Washington)

2007-10-24 Thread Anthony Jones
The Grant Institute: Certificate in Professional Program Development and Grant Communication will be held in Seattle, Washington, December 10 - 14, 2007.  Interested development professionals, researchers, faculty, and graduate students should register as soon as possible, as demand means that s

Re: delineating by comma where commas inside quotation marks don't count

2007-10-24 Thread Dan Bishop
On Oct 24, 8:56 pm, "Junior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to open a text file for reading and delineate it by comma. I also > want any data > surrounded by quotation marks that has a comma in it, not to count the > commas inside the > quotation marks Use the csv module. -- http://mail.py

About Pywin32's invoke

2007-10-24 Thread kernel1983
By reading the doc of pywin32 we can invoke COM like: o = win32com.client.Dispatch("Excel.Application") but is it possible to invoke some GUID directly? If COM was going to be invoked by python, must it support IDispatch? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: delineating by comma where commas inside quotation marks don't count

2007-10-24 Thread equand
On Oct 25, 3:56 am, "Junior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to open a text file for reading and delineate it by comma. I also > want any data > surrounded by quotation marks that has a comma in it, not to count the > commas inside the > quotation marks > > if the file testfile.txt contains th

Re: list (range) syntax

2007-10-24 Thread Carl Banks
On Oct 24, 6:44 pm, Michal Bozon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > many Python newcomers are confused why > range(10), does not include 10. > > If there was a proposal for the new > syntax for ranges, which is known > e.g. from Pascal or Ruby... > > >>> [0..10] > > [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] > >

How to change IP Address by Python program on Win Platform

2007-10-24 Thread Don Bro
is there software available to change or hide my ip add? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Anagrams

2007-10-24 Thread sandipm
thanks..I am using python 2.4.4. so i couldnt find "all" either as inbuilt module or by doing "from itertools import *", "all" is not available. I think I need to move to 2.5 then but what are the pros/cons of moving to 2.5? as we are using 2.4.4 on production server which is quite stable. a

Re: Test for a unicode string

2007-10-24 Thread Scott David Daniels
goldtech wrote: > I have a regular expression test in a script. When a unicode character > get tested in the regex it gives an error: > > UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) > > Question: Is there a way to test a string for unicode chars (ie. test > if a string will thro

Re: How to best send email to a low volume list?

2007-10-24 Thread Shane Geiger
A mailing list manager is really overkill for what he is trying to do *IF* he is not maintaining a discussion list. A "newsletter" list doesn't sound like a discussion list, especially since he wants to hide the email addresses of the other people. If you want to manage your mailing list in a ma

python project ideas

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi to everyone I wondered if this might be the right place to ask for some ideas for python project for university. I'd like it to be something useful and web-based. And the project must be complete in 2-3 months by 2-3 person group. May be something useful for open source or python community ... W

Re: Test for a unicode string

2007-10-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I have a regular expression test in a script. When a unicode character > get tested in the regex it gives an error: > > UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) > > Question: Is there a way to test a string for unicode chars (ie. test > if a string will throw the error cite

Re: Adding idle timeout capabilities to asyncore

2007-10-24 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Oct 23, 9:30 am, Jean-Paul Calderone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:34:19 -, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > >Calling time.time() is relatively inexpensive in comparison to pure > >Python function calls, but indeed, it could be a bottleneck. > >

Re: How to best send email to a low volume list?

2007-10-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:08:14 -0500, Shane Geiger wrote: > A mailing list manager is really overkill for what he is trying to do > *IF* he is not maintaining a discussion list. It's not overkill at all. Mailman is easy to install (at least on a Red Hat based Linux system, your mileage may vary el

Judeo-Fascism and Chisto-Fascism Awareness week

2007-10-24 Thread lemnitzer
The biggest threat to the planet today is Judeofascism and Christofascism. Actually, the correct terms and concepts are: Anti-Judeo-fascism Zionists like most jews or zionists EXCEPT the lofty and righteous neturei karta who worship God and follow torah, but the others are satanic zionist bastard

Re: Adding idle timeout capabilities to asyncore

2007-10-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Giampaolo Rodola' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > def readable(self): > if time.time() >= self.timeout: > self.send("Timeout") > self.close() > return 1 Don't do it this way. Put all the timeouts into a priority queue (see the heapq module) so you only need to check the one

Re: Python on Intel A110?

2007-10-24 Thread Tim Roberts
Bob Greschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Will the "stock" Windows version of Python install on a Samsung Q1U-EL >UMPC running Vista and with an Intel A110 processor? ANYTHING that runs Vista will run Python. >I want to do some >development and just happened to think about this. I don't know

Re: Python Windows Installation

2007-10-24 Thread Tim Roberts
TheFlyingDutchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am trying to install Python 2.5 on Windows XP. It installs into the >root directory on C:\ instead of C:\Python25 which it shows by default >as what it plans to install to. Selecting D:\Python25 on a previous >iteration put the exe in D:\ and did no

Re: win32com.client documentation?

2007-10-24 Thread Tim Roberts
"Colin J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Morss wrote: >> I am a unix person, not new to Python, but new to Python programming >> on windows. Does anyone know where to find documentation on >> win32com.client? I have successfully installed this module and >> implemented some example co

Re: win32com.client documentation?

2007-10-24 Thread Tim Roberts
Mark Morss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I want to be able to script the creation of Excel spreadsheets and >Word documents, interract with Access data bases, and so forth. Empirically, the best way to do this (for me, at least) is to Google for examples. There are a few simple rules to learn on

about functions question

2007-10-24 Thread NoName
I try it: def b(): ... a() ... def a(): ... b() ... b() it's not work. Is it possible pre-define function like in c++ or place functions code after main block? int a(); int b(); int main () { ... a(); ... } int a() { ... b(); ... } int b() { ... a(); ... } =) sorry for my eng;)

Regular Expression question

2007-10-24 Thread looping
Hi, It's not really a Python question but I'm sure someone could help me. When I use RE, I always have trouble with this kind of search: Ex. I've a text file: """ create or replace package XXX ... create or replace package body XXX ... """ now I want to search the position (line) of this two st

Re: Mobile Startup looking for sharp coders

2007-10-24 Thread George Sakkis
On Oct 24, 2:42 pm, Vangati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Plusmo is Hiring! > > (snipped) > > Recruiting Agencies: Please do not send us unsolicited resumes. > Plusmo does not consider resumes from any agencies. Lame company headhunters: Please do not send us unsolicited spamvertisments irrelevant

Re: about functions question

2007-10-24 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
NoName schrieb: > I try it: > > def b(): > ... > a() > ... > > def a(): > ... > b() > ... > > b() > it's not work. It works. def a(): print "a" b() def b(): print "b" print a # not calling! b() But if you really call a in b, you create an endless loop. I

Re: about functions question

2007-10-24 Thread George Sakkis
On Oct 25, 2:28 am, NoName <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I try it: > > def b(): > ... > a() > ... > > def a(): > ... > b() > ... > > b() > it's not work. It sure does. Please post full code and error message, something else is wrong, not the cyclic reference. George -- http://mail.p

Re: Regular Expression question

2007-10-24 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:34:03 +, looping wrote: > Hi, > It's not really a Python question but I'm sure someone could help me. > > When I use RE, I always have trouble with this kind of search: > > Ex. > > I've a text file: > """ > create or replace package XXX > ... > > create or replace pa

Re: about functions question

2007-10-24 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:28:16 +, NoName wrote: > I try it: > > def b(): > ... > a() > ... > > def a(): > ... > b() > ... > > b() > it's not work. What do you mean by not working? At the time `b()` is called, both functions are defined so it should working. Or at least it's not

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