Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread Laurent Pointal
John Salerno a écrit : ... > I do, however, think the docs are pretty good, although I sometimes find > myself just wishing that a function definition was simply laid out in an > easy to read format that included all of its parameters, so I would know > exactly what to pass to it (I guess help() is

Re: Newbie wxpython staticbitmap help please

2006-06-16 Thread jean-michel bain-cornu
Hi, janama a écrit : > jean-michel bain-cornu wrote: >> Why won't you write it yourself using the demo ? >> It's clear and well documented. >> Regards, >> jm > > Hi, have been just trying for 5 hours with the timer demo in wx, i just > havnt clicked with how to tie it in together, > > I know (thi

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Michele Simionato
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > BartlebyScrivener wrote: > > > Emacs must be dying if this thread could get all the way to 20 with > > nobody arguing with the vi folks. > > hints: 1) editor wars are so last century. 2) emacs has already won. > > Yep, there is no much point about arguing for Emacs since ev

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Ant
John Salerno wrote: > Larry Bates wrote: > > > Nope, no Java knowledge necessary. Jython just compiles Python code > > to java bytecode instead of python bytecode. Once it is in java bytecode > > the JVM doesn't know where it came from. > > Well that's good to know. I guess there's not much of a

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

2006-06-16 Thread meyer
Martin, thanks for the tip, I wasn't fully aware of that. OTOH, though GCC might be a theoretical alternative, it isn't a practical one for many situations: * In a professional environment, it opens up another can of potential problems, where one would rather like to stay with one single compiler

Re: urllib2 problem with ports.

2006-06-16 Thread Ant
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > check your proxy configuration. most likely, your new machine is set up > to route all requests via a remote proxy. Here's me looking like a fool :-) The parts of the machine (eg Firefox, GAIM etc) that I'd set up use a direct connection - it looks like the guy who'd had

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Ant
> > Vim is great if you have a good memory... Otherwise you end up trawling > > through the help to find out how to do stuff that would in another IDE > > be just a few menu clicks away. > > Mental memory (the painful kind of memory) rapidly turns into muscle > memory (the fun kind of memory) and

Re: BeautifulSoup error

2006-06-16 Thread Slawomir Nowaczyk
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:20:48 +1000 Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: #> > >>> soup = BeautifulSoup() #> > >>> soup.feed(port) #> > Traceback (most recent call last): #> > File "", line 1, in ? #> > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/sgmllib.py", line 94, in feed #> > self.rawdata = self.rawdata

Re: list of polynomial functions

2006-06-16 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Chase wrote: > My understanding is that the lambda-defined functions are not > called until the actual application thereof, with the > > mypolys = make_polys(8) > mypolys[5](2) #the lambda call happens here, no? Yes, that's right. > 's original statement

Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread luca72
Hello I have to make an easy operation but reading the pycrypto doc. a never see AES example I have to cript this key 'ea523a664dabaa4476d31226a1e3bab0' with the AES. Can you help me for make it with pycrypto Regards Luca -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Extracting values from text file

2006-06-16 Thread Preben Randhol
Hi A short newbie question. I would like to extract some values from a given text file directly into python variables. Can this be done simply by either standard library or other libraries? Some pointers where to get started would be much appreciated. An example text file: --- Some text t

pyHook equivalent on Linux ? (mouse and keyboard events without focus)

2006-06-16 Thread learner404
Hello, I have a Windows Pyhon-Tk app which need to capture mouse end keyboard events even when the app is not in focus. On Windows so far I've used the excellent PyHook which does the job perfectly: " The pyHook library wraps the low-level mouse and keyboard hooks in the Windows Hooking API for

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Sergei Organov
John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know there's a request for a good IDE at least once a week on the ng, > but hopefully this question is a little different. I'm looking for > suggestions for a good cross-platform text editor (which the features > for coding, such as syntax highlightin

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Torben Ægidius Mogensen
Raffael Cavallaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]'espam-s'il-vous-plait-mac.com> writes: > On 2006-06-14 16:36:52 -0400, Pascal Bourguignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > In lisp, all lists are homogenous: lists of T. > > CL-USER 123 > (loop for elt in (list #\c 1 2.0d0 (/ 2 3)) collect > (type-of elt)) > (

getting umask without changing it

2006-06-16 Thread Faik Uygur
Is there a python way of getting the current umask without changing it? os.umask changes it, and i dont want to use os.system("umask") - Faik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Torben Ægidius Mogensen
Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > > > On a similar note, is a statically typed langauge more or less > > expressive than a dynamically typed language? Some would say less, as > > you can write programs in a dynamically typed language that you can't >

Re: Extracting values from text file

2006-06-16 Thread MTD
list.txt is a file that contains the following lines: Apples 34 Bananas 10 Oranges 56 >>> file = open("list.txt","r") >>> mystring = file.read() >>> mystring 'Apples 34 \nBananas 10\nOranges 56 ' >>> mylist = mystring.split('\n') >>> mylist ['Apples 34 ', 'Bananas 10', 'Oranges 56 '] >>> mydict =

Re: Extracting values from text file

2006-06-16 Thread bearophileHUGS
First try, probably there are better ways to do it, and it's far from resilient, it breaks in lot of different ways (example: more than one number in one line, number with text on both sides of the line, etc.) I have divided the data munging in many lines so I can see what's happening, and you can

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Raffael Cavallaro schrieb: > On 2006-06-14 15:04:34 -0400, Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Um... heterogenous lists are not necessarily a sign of expressiveness. >> The vast majority of cases can be transformed to homogenous lists >> (though these might then contain closures or

Noob script needs some input: CVS PatchMaker

2006-06-16 Thread Holger
I needed a tool for extracting patches from CVS based on the log messages. I.e. we mark our fixes and features with a "Bugdb XYZ" And sometimes you need to move a fix/feature to another branch or maybe you just want to inspect exactly what changes were related to a specific bugdb issue. Now I've s

Re: Extracting values from text file

2006-06-16 Thread MTD
P.S. >>> file.close() MTD wrote: > list.txt is a file that contains the following lines: > Apples 34 > Bananas 10 > Oranges 56 > > >>> file = open("list.txt","r") > >>> mystring = file.read() > >>> mystring > 'Apples 34 \nBananas 10\nOranges 56 ' > >>> mylist = mystring.split('\n') > >>> mylist >

Re: getting umask without changing it

2006-06-16 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Faik Uygur wrote: > Is there a python way of getting the current umask without changing it? > os.umask changes it, and i dont want to use os.system("umask") just call os.umask twice: current_mask = os.umask(0) os.umask(current_mask) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytho

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread Ant
> No, I learned it because Perl was too dirty and Java to complicated. > Now it is part of my daily job. Ditto. I was fed up of writing, compiling and running a java application just in order to do a quick script. I'd used perl, but quite frankly perl's a ridiculous language. Ruby looked promising

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Pascal Costanza
Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > Raffael Cavallaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]'espam-s'il-vous-plait-mac.com> writes: > >> On 2006-06-14 16:36:52 -0400, Pascal Bourguignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> In lisp, all lists are homogenous: lists of T. >> CL-USER 123 > (loop for elt in (list #\c 1 2.0d0 (/

Re: Pb console Effbot

2006-06-16 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Méta-MCI" wrote: > I installed the Console of EFFBOT (http://effbot.org/downloads/#console). > It functions well. It's a very fun/friendly tool. > > Except a detail: when I send (by console.write()) more than 53200 characters, > it does not occur > anything. > I circumvented the problem, with a

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Pascal Costanza
Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: >> >>> On a similar note, is a statically typed langauge more or less >>> expressive than a dynamically typed language? Some would say less, as >>> you can write programs in a dynamica

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread mystilleef
On linux, I recommend Scribes. It's simple, slim and sleek, yet powerful. Features: Automatic completion Automatic bracket completion and smart insertion Snippets (ala TextMate) Bookmarks Syntax highlight for more than 30 languages Launches faster than any IDE out their Has no learning curve. Fea

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Sacha
"Joachim Durchholz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Raffael Cavallaro schrieb: >> On 2006-06-14 15:04:34 -0400, Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> Um... heterogenous lists are not necessarily a sign of expressiveness. >>> The vast majority of cases c

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

2006-06-16 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2006-06-15, Fredrik Lundh schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I'm not sure how that backs the point you made. Infact, you're saying >> that people accepted that Python 2.4 was compiled with VS2003 because >> VC6 could not longer be bought. How is that different from the

Re: getting umask without changing it

2006-06-16 Thread Faik Uygur
Cuma 16 Haziran 2006 12:48 tarihinde, Fredrik Lundh şunları yazmıştı: > Faik Uygur wrote: > > Is there a python way of getting the current umask without changing it? > > os.umask changes it, and i dont want to use os.system("umask") > > just call os.umask twice: > current_mask = os.umask(0) T

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Hendrik Maryns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sacha schreef: > "Joachim Durchholz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Raffael Cavallaro schrieb: >>> On 2006-06-14 15:04:34 -0400, Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> Um... heterogenous lists are not ne

Re: getting umask without changing it

2006-06-16 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Faik Uygur wrote: > This is not atomic. At this point i changed all the running python threads' > umask and i don't want to change current umask. I just want to get it. afaik, there's no atomic API for this. just a unified get/set function: http://www.opengroup.org/pubs/online/7908799/xsh/um

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Rob Thorpe
Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > > > > > On a similar note, is a statically typed langauge more or less > > > expressive than a dynamically typed language? Some would say less, as > > > you can write programs in a d

Re: Newbie wxpython staticbitmap help please

2006-06-16 Thread janama
Thanks Jean this now makes sense, really appreciate your time and effort mate. def __init__(self, parent): self._init_ctrls(parent) self.t1 = wx.Timer(self) self.t1.Start(2000) # 2 seconds self.Bind(wx.EVT_TIMER, self.OnTest1Timer) self.OnTest1Timer(sel

Re: getting umask without changing it

2006-06-16 Thread Faik Uygur
Cuma 16 Haziran 2006 13:41 tarihinde, Fredrik Lundh şunları yazmıştı: > afaik, there's no atomic API for this.  just a unified get/set function: > >     http://www.opengroup.org/pubs/online/7908799/xsh/umask.html Oops. :( Thanks for the help. Regards, - Faik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: BeautifulSoup error

2006-06-16 Thread William Xu
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > William Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >>> import urllib >> >>> from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup >> >>> url = 'http://www.google.com' >> >>> port = urllib.urlopen(url).read() > > Gets the data from the HTTP response. (I'm not sure why you call t

Re: BeautifulSoup error

2006-06-16 Thread Ben Finney
Slawomir Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> soup.feed( unicode(port,"iso-8859-1") ) Sure, once you have the encoding name. Visit a different URL, you may get a different encoding which should be used. -- \ "I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not | `\ou

Unimporting modules, memory leak?

2006-06-16 Thread Antonio Arauzo Azofra
Hello everybody, Probably, this is being too demanding for Python, but it may be useful to unimport modules to work with dynamic code (though not the best, one example is [2]). In fact, it is supposed to be possible[1], but I have detected it usually leaks memory. When unimported in Linux, the s

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Torben Ægidius Mogensen
Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > > So while it may take longer to get a program that gets > > past the compiler, it takes less time to get a program that works. > > That's incorrect. See http://haskell.org/papers/NSWC/jfp.ps - > especially Figure 3.

Re: Extracting values from text file

2006-06-16 Thread Ant
> What I first though was if there was possible to make a filter such as: > > Apples (apples) > (ducks) Ducks > (butter) g butter Try something like: import re text = """> Some text that can span some lines. Apples 34 56 Ducks Some more text. """ filters = {"apples": re.compile(

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
luca72 wrote: > Hello > I have to make an easy operation but reading the pycrypto doc. a never > see AES example > I have to cript this key 'ea523a664dabaa4476d31226a1e3bab0' with the > AES. > Can you help me for make it with pycrypto > > Regards Luca You can do this as follows: py> from Crypto.C

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Torben Ægidius Mogensen
"Rob Thorpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > > That's the point: Bugs that in dynamically typed languages would > > require testing to find are found by the compiler in a statically > > typed language. So whil eit may take onger to get a program thatgets > > past t

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread Laszlo Nagy
> You can do this as follows: > > py> from Crypto.Cipher import AES > py> # key has to be 16, 24 or 32 bytes for AES > py> crypt = AES.new('abcdefghijklmnop', AES.MODE_ECB) > # we're lucky, the string to encrypt is a multiple of 16 in length > py> txt = 'ea523a664dabaa4476d31226a1e3bab0' > py> c =

Re: Video capture from webcam on Mac?

2006-06-16 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Joseph Chase schrieb: > Is there a cross-platform solution for video capture from a webcam? > > I am aware of the Win32 videocapture library, but am unaware of how to > accomplish the same functionality on the Mac side. You could try and make OpenCV work - it has a part called anygui that allo

Re: Video capture from webcam on Mac?

2006-06-16 Thread faulkner
gstreamer has python bindings. http://gstreamer.net/ Joseph Chase wrote: > Is there a cross-platform solution for video capture from a webcam? > > I am aware of the Win32 videocapture library, but am unaware of how to > accomplish the same functionality on the Mac side. > > Thanks in advance. --

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Dr.Ruud
Torben Ægidius Mogensen schreef: > Bugs that in dynamically typed languages would > require testing to find are found by the compiler in a statically > typed language. So whil[e ]it may take [l]onger to get a program that[ ] > gets past the compiler, it takes less time to get a program that works

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laszlo Nagy wrote: > > You can do this as follows: > > > > py> from Crypto.Cipher import AES > > py> # key has to be 16, 24 or 32 bytes for AES > > py> crypt = AES.new('abcdefghijklmnop', AES.MODE_ECB) > > # we're lucky, the string to encrypt is a multiple of 16 in length > > py> txt = 'ea523a664d

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread André
John Salerno wrote: > So out of curiosity, I'm just wondering how everyone else came to learn > it. If you feel like responding, I'll ask my questions for easy quoting: > > Did you have to learn it for a job? No. My job is purely administrative; I have absolutely no need to do any programming. I

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
John Salerno wrote: (snip) > Based on another thread, I tried out Scite, but no matter what I do it > doesn't seem to remember the window size and position, or any options I > choose (like showing line numbers). This is in the configuration files. Don't remember which and where, but I clearly rem

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: > I see Eclipse mentioned here a lot. If you go for a Mammoth-weight GUI-only Java IDE and have a really powerful computer, why not ? -- bruno desthuilliers python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for p in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.split('@')])" -

Re: GUI in Python using wxGlade

2006-06-16 Thread diffuser78
Did you paste any code ? Also the link for the next message is not working . John Salerno wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am a newbie. I was looking for some code where I could a list of > > different items from a file and display it in a list box. Then give a > > user the capability

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
John Salerno wrote: > Ant wrote: > >> jEdit is for me still the best text editor available. Very extensible >> with macros (which can be written in Jython with the appropriate plugin >> installed). > > > I like the idea of being extensible, but of course I can only write in > Python. Jython is

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: > Emacs must be dying if this thread could get all the way to 20 with > nobody arguing with the vi folks. No need to argue. I started with vim, and finally switched to emacs less than one year later. -- bruno desthuilliers python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] f

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread luca72
Thanks Luca -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread Laszlo Nagy
> Not in this implementation: > py> from Crypto.Cipher import AES > py> crypt = AES.new('abcdefghijklmnop', AES.MODE_CBC) > py> c = crypt.encrypt('1') > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in ? > ValueError: Input strings must be a multiple of 16 in length > This is strange.

Duplex communication with pipes - is possible ?

2006-06-16 Thread Dara Durum
Hi ! I want to create a Process Pool Object. I can hold started processes, and can communicate with them. I tryed with many ipc methods, but every of them have bug or other problem. Sockets are unavailabe (because Windows Firewall hold them). I think I will use pipe. The object's pseudocode: wh

wxPython question

2006-06-16 Thread diffuser78
I tried to follow wxPython Demo examples to understand it better. I used wxGlade to generate my code from the GUI builder. When I try to see the code for Menu and Menubar I see a little mismatch in the way functions are being used. For example, wxGlade produces code like this self.Action = wx.Me

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread luca72
Excuse me again, If the string is not a sting but hex number how i have to proced : look this page: http://www.cs.eku.edu/faculty/styer/460/Encrypt/JS-AES.html Regards Luca -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: XML, JSON, or what?

2006-06-16 Thread Frank Millman
Alan Kennedy wrote: > [Frank Millman] > > I am writing a multi-user accounting/business application, which uses > > sockets to communicate between server and client. The server contains > > all the business logic. It has no direct knowledge of the client. I > > have devised a simple message format

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread Mirco Wahab
Thus spoke John Salerno (on 2006-06-15 15:50): > Did you have to learn it for a job? No, I was just interested in things that are found interesting ;-) > Or did you just like what you saw and decided to learn it for fun? I read some remarks, from "both sides", on the feasibility of a programmin

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: >>>Most IDEs are rather weak as text editors compared to emacsen. > > > That's true, but even emacs and xemacs don't offer simple automatic > word wrap (i.e. wrap a line without splitting words or putting an eol > or hard carriage return at the end of every line). I don't

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: (snip) > Also, it seems to be a minimalist > language. *seems* minimalist, but is really not - have a look at the object model (metaclasses, descriptors etc), at closures and HOFs and decorators, at list-comp and generators and (coming in 2.5) coroutines... Definitively

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: >>>I'd like something a bit like a module, >>>but I'd like to make several of them, >>>and not have them interfere with each other." > > > Thank you. I sense what you are saying, but at this point I'd be > thinking, "Why not just make several modules?" :) Because you wa

Re: Extracting values from text file

2006-06-16 Thread Paul McGuire
"Preben Randhol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What I first though was if there was possible to make a filter such as: > > Apples (apples) > (ducks) Ducks > (butter) g butter > > The data can be put in a hash table. > > Or maybe there are better ways? I general

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
Scott David Daniels wrote: > BartlebyScrivener wrote: > >> I am not touching OO, classes, or GUIs until I understand >> EVERYTHING else. Could take a few years. ;) > > > You know how modules separate globals, right? That is, what you > write in one module doesn't affect the names in anothe

Re: Python is fun (useless social thread) ;-)

2006-06-16 Thread bruno at modulix
BartlebyScrivener wrote: (snip) > I am not touching OO, classes, You may not be aware of this, but as soon as you're programming in Python, you *are* using OO. Strings are objects, dicts are objects, tuples are objects, lists are objects, numbers are objects, and even functions and modules are ob

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Tim Chase
> No need to argue. I started with vim, and finally switched to > emacs less than one year later. Both are very-much-so good editors. I made the opposite switch from emacs to vim in less than a year. Both are good^Wgreat editors, so one's decision to use one over the other is more a matter of wo

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Walter Dörwald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > [snip] >> Thanks for any suggestions, and again I'm sorry if this feels like the >> same question as usual (it's just that in my case, I'm not looking for >> something like SPE, Komodo, Eric3, etc. right now). > > I was taking a peek at c.l.py to c

Re: Duplex communication with pipes - is possible ?

2006-06-16 Thread Daniel Dittmar
Dara Durum wrote: > Hi ! > > I want to create a Process Pool Object. > I can hold started processes, and can communicate with them. > > I tryed with many ipc methods, but every of them have bug or other problem. > Sockets are unavailabe (because Windows Firewall hold them). > > I think I will us

Re: XML, JSON, or what?

2006-06-16 Thread Daniel Dittmar
> My client-server is Python-to-Python. At present, I am using cPickle to > transfer objects between the two. Among other things, I sometimes > transfer a tuple. Using JSON it appears on the other side as a list. As > I sometimes use the tuple as a dictionary key, this fails, as you > obviously can

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Pascal Costanza
Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > Pascal Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > >>> So while it may take longer to get a program that gets >>> past the compiler, it takes less time to get a program that works. >> That's incorrect. See http://haskell.org/papers/N

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread Philippe Martin
Hi, Look at the bin2ascii module. Philippe luca72 wrote: > > Excuse me again, > If the string is not a sting but hex number how i have to proced : > > look this page: > http://www.cs.eku.edu/faculty/styer/460/Encrypt/JS-AES.html > > Regards Luca -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread genea
Torben Ægidius Mogensen wrote: > There are several aspects relevant to this issue, some of which are: > - Compactness: How much do I have to type to do what I want? .. > - Naturality: How much effort does it take to convert the concepts of >my problem into the concepts of the language?

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread luca72
Hello again i have solve doing this: from Crypto.Cipher import AES stri=(chr(int('9b',16))+chr(int('d3',16))+chr(int('2d',16))+chr(int('24',16))+chr(int('af',16))+chr(int('c9',16))+chr(int('e9',16))+chr(int('d7',16))+chr(int('46',16))+chr(int('69',16))+chr(int('71',16))+chr(int('32',16))+chr(int(

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Raffael Cavallaro
On 2006-06-16 05:22:08 -0400, Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And this is a typical dynamic type advocate's response when told that > static typing has different needs: > > "*I* don't see the usefulness of static typing so *you* shouldn't want > it, either." But I haven't made th

Re: __lt__ slowing the "in" operator even if not called

2006-06-16 Thread Steven Bethard
Emanuele Aina wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] dettagliò: > >>> Someone can explain me why? >> The list's __contains__ method is very simple > > [...] > >> So if you define "__lt__" in your object then the type gets a richcmp >> function and your == test implicit in the 'in' search always incurs the >

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Raffael Cavallaro
On 2006-06-16 11:29:12 -0400, Raffael Cavallaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]'espam-s'il-vous-plait-mac.com> said: > In software like this it isn't worth satisfying a static type checker > because you don't get much of the benefit > anywaytext Dx¤description£text Dx¢fromname > as bei

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Raffael Cavallaro
On 2006-06-16 05:22:08 -0400, Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And this is a typical dynamic type advocate's response when told that > static typing has different needs: > > "*I* don't see the usefulness of static typing so *you* shouldn't want > it, either." But I haven't made th

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread Istvan Albert
Scott David Daniels wrote: > Surprise, surprise. One hour is not two weeks. I wrote: > pressing Ctrl-1 while editing the source will execute the python on the > current source *and* it displays the output in a lower pane as it runs > *and* it allows me to simultanously edit the file *while* th

msvcr71.dll necessary? - Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

2006-06-16 Thread robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi everyone, > > which compiler will Python 2.5 on Windows (Intel) be built with? I > notice that Python 2.4 apparently has been built with the VS2003 > toolkit compiler, and I read a post from Scott David Daniels [1] where > he said that probably the VS2003 toolkit will

Re: a good programming text editor (not IDE)

2006-06-16 Thread josiah . carlson
Walter Dörwald wrote: > I tried it out and the first problem I noticed is that on Windows > opening a file from a Samba drive doesn't seem to work, as PyPE converts > the filename to lowercase. ...Samba is tricky, and I hadn't thought of it before. Normal Windows is case-insensitive but case-pres

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Raffael Cavallaro
On 2006-06-16 05:22:08 -0400, Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And this is a typical dynamic type advocate's response when told that static typing has different needs: > "*I* don't see the usefulness of static typing so *you* shouldn't want it, either." But I haven't made this sort

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

2006-06-16 Thread sam
I have been using the latest VC.net to compile my SCSIPython extension dll for Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 without any problems. I just have to make shure that I link with the correct Python.lib Sam Schulenburg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pycrypto

2006-06-16 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, luca72 wrote: > Hello again i have solve doing this: > > from Crypto.Cipher import AES > stri=(chr(int('9b',16))+chr(int('d3',16))+chr(int('2d',16))+chr(int('24',16))+chr(int('af',16))+chr(int('c9',16))+chr(int('e9',16))+chr(int('d7',16))+chr(int('46',16))+chr(int('69',16)

Re: Duplex communication with pipes - is possible ?

2006-06-16 Thread alisonken1
> readlines () will try to read until the stream/socket is closed. Try to > read only one line. This of course means that you cannot sent \n as part > of the data, you have to escape them somehow. > If I remember correctly, if you want to pass '\n' so readline won't stop, you should be able to

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Darren New
Joachim Durchholz wrote: > Give a heterogenous list that would to too awkward to live in a > statically-typed language. Write a function that takes an arbitrary set of arguments and stores them into a structure allocated on the heap. > Give a case of calling nonexistent functions that's useful.

Re: PythonPerl 0.9

2006-06-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Have you looked at PyPerl? http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyPerl I think it was further along. It might be good to build on. Jim On Jun 16, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Bruno Obsomer wrote: > You love Python, but think Perl can be useful anyway. You can now > mix the > two in a single program with th

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Darren New
Joachim Durchholz wrote: > Give a heterogenous list that would to too awkward to live in a > statically-typed language. Printf()? -- Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST) My Bath Fu is strong, as I have studied under the Showerin' Monks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

download file from intranet linux server to windows clients

2006-06-16 Thread Luis P. Mendes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm building an intranet web server in Linux for around 40 windows clients with Django. The problem is that I want to build an excel file based on criteria entered by the client, that the client must be able do download to his personal work space

add elements to indexed list locations

2006-06-16 Thread leventyilmaz
Hi, I have a very simple problem, but do not know an elegant way to accomplish this. ### # I have a list of names: names = ['clark', 'super', 'peter', 'spider', 'bruce', 'bat'] # and another set of names that I want to insert into # the names list at some indexed locations: surnames = { 1: 'kent'

Re: MS VC++ Toolkit 2003 installer (VCToolkitSetup.exe)

2006-06-16 Thread Jarek Zgoda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): > I need to build some Win32 Python extensions. If somebody happens to > have the Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 installer > (VCToolkitSetup.exe), please kindly contact me off-list at: I think only Microsoft has enough rights to distribute this. -- Jarek Zgoda h

Re: add elements to indexed list locations

2006-06-16 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Hi, > > I have a very simple problem, but do not know an elegant way to > accomplish this. > ### > # I have a list of names: > names = ['clark', 'super', 'peter', 'spider', 'bruce', 'bat'] > > # and another set of names that I want to insert into > # the names list at

Re: add elements to indexed list locations

2006-06-16 Thread Alexis Roda
En/na [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrit: > Hi, > > I have a very simple problem, but do not know an elegant way to > accomplish this. > ### > # I have a list of names: > names = ['clark', 'super', 'peter', 'spider', 'bruce', 'bat'] > > # and another set of names that I want to insert into > # the names

Re: add elements to indexed list locations

2006-06-16 Thread Steven Bethard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > # I have a list of names: > names = ['clark', 'super', 'peter', 'spider', 'bruce', 'bat'] > > # and another set of names that I want to insert into > # the names list at some indexed locations: > surnames = { 1: 'kent', 3:'parker', 5:'wayne' } > > # The thing I couldn't

Opening an editor for interactive use

2006-06-16 Thread Webb
Hi all, (I am sure there is a recipe somewhere, but I can't find it.) How does one open an editor while in the middle of an interactive program, let the user do some editing and closing, and then capture the text that was edited? I am reminded of subversion or CVS when they open an $EDITOR sessi

Re: BeautifulSoup error

2006-06-16 Thread Serge Orlov
William Xu wrote: > Hi, all, > > This piece of code used to work well. i guess the error occurs after > some upgrade. > > >>> import urllib > >>> from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup > >>> url = 'http://www.google.com' > >>> port = urllib.urlopen(url).read() > >>> soup = BeautifulSoup() > >>> so

Cross-site scripting (XSS) defense

2006-06-16 Thread johnzenger
Is there a module (or, better yet, sample code) that scrubs user-entered text to remove cross-site scripting attacks, while also allowing a small subset of HTML through? Contemplated application: a message board that allows people to use , , and so on, but does not allow any javascript, vbscript,

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

2006-06-16 Thread Philip Austin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> This is the .NET 11 SDK, I belive it includes the 2003 compiler (*): > > Last time I checked the .NET SDK they had the C# compiler in there, but > not the C++ optimizing 2003 compiler. Might be wrong though I just downloaded and installed this, and see a directory

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-16 Thread Matthias Blume
Darren New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> Give a heterogenous list that would to too awkward to live in a >> statically-typed language. > > Printf()? Very good statically typed versions of printf exist. See, e.g., Danvy's unparsing combinators. -- http://mail.python.o

Problem on win xp and run time error

2006-06-16 Thread Michele Petrazzo
Hi list, just found in this moment that my applications stop to work with win xp and receive this error: """ This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. """ (Note that the same application [pytho

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