Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Aug 18, 2:22 pm, "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all. > > I realize that proposals dealing with alternatives to indentation have been > brought up (and shot down) before, but I would like to take another stab at > it, because it is rather important to me. > > I am totally blind, and

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Paddy
On Aug 19, 5:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > Paddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >... > > > Can screen reaaderss be customized? > > Open-source ones surely can (e.g., NVDA is an open-source reader for > Windows written in Python, -- alas, if > you

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Alex Martelli
Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 19, 11:51 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's wrong with just saying the current indent level? I'd much rather > > hear "indent 4" than "tab tab tab tab". > > Alternatively, you might also consider writing a simple pre and >

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Alex Martelli
Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > That's probably what I'll end up doing. The only drawback to that is that > it solves the problem for me only. Perhaps I will open source the scripts > and write up some documentation so that other folks in a similar situation > don't have to reinvent the

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Alex Martelli
Jakub Stolarski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not just use comments and some filter. Just write # _{ at the > beginning and # _} at the end. Then filter just before runing > indenting with those control sequences? Then there's no need to change > interpreter. As I pointed out in another post t

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Terry Reedy
If there is not one already, a page for blind and visually impaired programmers on the Python site would be a good addition. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Aaron
"Michael Tobis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Alternatively, you might also consider writing a simple pre and > postprocessor so that you could read and write python the way you > would prefer > > In that you could cope with the existing code base and the existing

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Jakub Stolarski
Why not just use comments and some filter. Just write # _{ at the beginning and # _} at the end. Then filter just before runing indenting with those control sequences? Then there's no need to change interpreter. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-20 Thread Michael Tobis
On Aug 19, 11:51 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's wrong with just saying the current indent level? I'd much rather > hear "indent 4" than "tab tab tab tab". Alternatively, you might also consider writing a simple pre and postprocessor so that you could read and write python th

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-19 Thread James Stroud
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:22:54 -0500, "Aaron" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in > comp.lang.python: > > >> column to make sure that everything lines up. I, on the other hand, >> generally find my self counting a lot of spaces. >> > Forgive me, but

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-19 Thread O.R.Senthil Kumaran
Hi Aaron, > Finally, just to be clear, I do not want to change the way 99.9% of Python > code is written. I feel that the indentation model is a good one for 99.9% > of users. What I do want to do is simply give the Python interpreter a tiny > bit more flexibility to handle code from users or

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-19 Thread Aaron
"Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Oh wow. it never crossed my mind... > > Can screen reaaderss be customized? > Maybe their is a way to get the screen reader to say indent and dedent > at thee appropriate places? > Or maybe a filter to put those wordds into th

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-19 Thread Alex Martelli
Paddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Can screen reaaderss be customized? Open-source ones surely can (e.g., NVDA is an open-source reader for Windows written in Python, -- alas, if you search for NVDA Google appears to be totally convinced you mean NVidia instea

Re: yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-19 Thread Paddy
On Aug 18, 7:22 pm, "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all. > > I realize that proposals dealing with alternatives to indentation have been > brought up (and shot down) before, but I would like to take another stab at > it, because it is rather important to me. > > I am totally blind, and

yet another indentation proposal

2007-08-19 Thread Aaron
Hello all. I realize that proposals dealing with alternatives to indentation have been brought up (and shot down) before, but I would like to take another stab at it, because it is rather important to me. I am totally blind, and somewhat new to Python. I put off learning Python for a long ti