Carroll, Barry wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> Personally, I don't think top-posting is the most annoying newsgroup
> habit. I think it's making a big fuss about minor inconveniences.
>
> One of the nicest things about being human is the amazing flexibility of
> our brains. For example, if a block of
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Carroll, Barry schreef:
> Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that
> mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like
> to see it. You see, I recently returned to Usenet after a LONG absence.
> When I was last a regular Usenet citizen the Interne
Paul Rubin schreef:
> No. Top posting has always been an aberrance. It first appeared in
> Usenet when Usenet (a word whose etymology comes from "Unix" and
> "network") started attracting Microsoft Windows users, who were in the
> habit of using Windows products that top-posted. That happened fa
I will give the formatting a try. I noticed another formatting thing I
wasn't looking for. It is possible to have a \n at the end of a word
or at least that is how it is shown and fixed through python 2.5. I
had an error where 36\n isn't a number. easy to fix though.
Jeremy Sanders wrote:
> S
Dane Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> On Friday 19 January 2007 22:51, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
>> "Steven D'Aprano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Or perhaps I should say:
>> >
>> > .snoitnevnoc
>> > hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM
>> >
On 2007-01-20, Nick Maclaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Carroll, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>|>
>|> My thanks to Aahz and the others who responded. I also did some
>|> Googling on my own. I found out that top-posting is the norm in the
>|> e-mail wo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Carroll, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>
|> My thanks to Aahz and the others who responded. I also did some
|> Googling on my own. I found out that top-posting is the norm in the
|> e-mail world. Bottom- and inline-posting are the norm in the newsgroup
|>
On Friday 19 January 2007 22:51, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> "Steven D'Aprano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Or perhaps I should say:
> >
> > .snoitnevnoc
> > hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton
> > ,puorgswen egaugnal hsilgnE na no er'ew ,segaugnal hcus era ereht fi ne
::CLAP CLAP::
thank you!
I have been in the newsgroups for over 12 years and I never cared about the
top/bottom post silliness. All I care about is that the message is clearly
written. Everything else is doggerel.
> -Original Message-
> From: Carroll, Barry
>
> Personally, I don't
"Steven D'Aprano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or perhaps I should say:
>
> .snoitnevnoc
> hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton ,puorgswen
> egaugnal hsilgnE na no er'ew ,segaugnal hcus era ereht fi neve tuB
First I thought it was Welsh or Cornish or something.
Then i
"Carroll, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When I was last a regular Usenet citizen the Internet was new, GUI
> interfaces were experimental and the World Wide Web didn't exist yet.
> Newsreader software was text-based. Top-posting was the common
> practice, because it was the most convenient.
I should write a python script to read this. :)
>.snoitnevnoc
>hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton ,puorgswen
>egaugnal hsilgnE na no er'ew ,segaugnal hcus era ereht fi neve tuB
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:20:26 -0800, Carroll, Barry wrote:
> It took me about 3 seconds to realize that Mr. D'Aprano' Q&A session was
> laid out bottom-to-top instead of top-to-bottom. After that, it made
> perfect sense.
Three seconds, compared to about thirty milliseconds if it were written in
> -Original Message-
> From: Aahz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Carroll, B
At Friday 19/1/2007 18:43, Carroll, Barry wrote:
Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that
mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like
to see it.
There are some guidelines, like RFC 1855 (not a real standard, or
enforced in any way):
ht
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Carroll, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that
>mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like
>to see it. You see, I recently returned to Usenet after a LONG absence.
>When
On 1/19/07, Carroll, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that
> mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like
> to see it.
For what (very little) it's worth, see RFC 1855.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Carroll, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>
|> Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that
|> mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like
|> to see it. You see, I recently returned to Usenet after a LONG ab
: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:12 PM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Carroll, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Personally, I don't think top-posting i
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Carroll, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Personally, I don't think top-posting is the most annoying newsgroup
>habit. I think it's making a big fuss about minor inconveniences. =20
Thing is, nobody will ignore your posts for following standard Usenet
convention
s must always be envisioning cathedrals.
-Quarry worker's creed
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven D'Aprano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:30 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: when format strings attack
>
> On Fri, 19 Jan
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> os.system('dir -l %s' % 'text.txt')
>
>
> Now, there is a security risk: you might set command1 yourself, and
> allow the user to set args. If command1 is an external application
> with a security hole, and the user provides arguments that trigger that
> bug, then natur
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:43:53 -0800, John Zenger wrote:
> Perhaps it is not as severe a security risk, but pure Python programs
> can run into similar problems if they don't check user input for %
> codes.
Please don't top-post.
A: Because it messes up the order that we read things.
Q: Why?
A: To
At Friday 19/1/2007 15:43, John Zenger wrote:
Perhaps it is not as severe a security risk, but pure Python programs
can run into similar problems if they don't check user input for %
codes. Example:
>>> k = raw_input("Try to trick me: ")
Try to trick me: How about %s this?
>>> j = "User %s jus
and it doesn't
> work
What do you mean, doesn't work? It works fine for me, precisely as
expected. What does it do for you? Crash Windows? Crash Python? Raise an
exception? Return an unexpected result?
> but I do see examples with % that is borrowed from the c language.
The &quo
Perhaps it is not as severe a security risk, but pure Python programs
can run into similar problems if they don't check user input for %
codes. Example:
>>> k = raw_input("Try to trick me: ")
Try to trick me: How about %s this?
>>> j = "User %s just entered: " + k
>>> print j % "John"
Traceback (
"Nick Maclaren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |>
> |> Pure Python programs are not affected, but a review of the C
> implementation
> |> should be made to see if any (variant of
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"Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje
|> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|>
|> > http://www.ddj.com/184405774;jsessionid=BDDEMUGJOPXUMQSNDLQCKHSCJUNN2JVN
|> >
|> > I saw a warning from homeland security about this. I
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> http://www.ddj.com/184405774;jsessionid=BDDEMUGJOPXUMQSNDLQCKHSCJUNN2JVN
>
> I saw a warning from homeland security about this. I only comment on
> the because I am trying to use os.system('command1 arg') and it doesn't
> work b
http://www.ddj.com/184405774;jsessionid=BDDEMUGJOPXUMQSNDLQCKHSCJUNN2JVN
I saw a warning from homeland security about this. I only comment on
the because I am trying to use os.system('command1 arg') and it doesn't
work but I do see examples with % that is borrowed from the c language.
Seems like
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