Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-25 Thread Nicky Mac
problem solved :_ I upgraded to 3.5.1 just released, and it works fine! (except pillow and pygame installs still dont work, but that's not your problem) Enjoy the holidays On 25 December 2015 at 14:12, Nicky Mac wrote: > thanks again for continuing to address my problem. > all those files are pr

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-25 Thread Nicky Mac
thanks again for continuing to address my problem. all those files are present as required. This is a hard slog. Maybe I should give up and fallback to my now working win 7 system until a resolution crops up via an update/upgrade. Have a happy and peaceful Christmas On 24 December 2015 at 22:17,

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > >> This file should not exist. Python 3 stores .pyc files in a >> __pycache__ subdirectory. It won't even run "idlelib\__init__.pyc" if >> "idlelib\__init__.py" exists, so your installation is incomplete and >> damaged. I suggest that you unins

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> somehow the new py3.5 has been added to the end, not the beginning. >> guess this path is what you meant by "my profile". > > Bizarre. I just installed 3.5.1 on top of 3.5.1rc1, on Win10 with the 64bit > .exe installer, and the 3.5 dirs are a

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/24/2015 9:59 AM, eryk sun wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: not sure what you mean by "my profile". following your suggestion, looks normal: I meant your profile directory, "C:\Users\Nick". But printing the package path showed the problem is in your Python 3 inst

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/24/2015 8:59 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: Dear python Team I think I've been wasting your time: C:\Users\Nick>path PATH=C:\Python27\;C:\Python27\Scripts;C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\Broadcom\Broadcom 802.11 Network Adapter;;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Nicky Mac wrote: > > C:\Users\Nick>python -m idlelib > ** IDLE can't import Tkinter. > Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** In the 3.5 installation directory, ensure that tkinter is installed in Lib/tkinter. There should be an "__init__.py" and several oth

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Nicky Mac
wow - a very comprehensive answer. However it seems I have now got it correctly reinstalled with the correct environment and path (as below) So I'm back to my original problem: C:\Users\Nick>python -m idlelib ** IDLE can't import Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** On doing a r

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/12/2015 14:52, Nicky Mac wrote: what a horrible environment windows is to support anything! (I was a UNIX professional). seems the user profile PATH is a registry entry, and was not updated when I deinstalled Python2.7 still haven't figured out how to change it - I will NOT attempy a reged

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: > seems the user profile PATH is a registry entry, and was not updated when I > deinstalled Python2.7 > still haven't figured out how to change it - I will NOT attempy a regedit. As to PATH on Windows, it's split into system and user components,

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Nicky Mac
sorry to be such a darned nuisance - fixed the PATH to eliminate Py2.7 references but get same result: C:\Users\Nick>path PATH=C:\Python\Python35\Scripts\;C:\Python\Python35\;C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\Broadcom\Broadcom 802.11 Network Adapter;;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDO

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Nicky Mac
what a horrible environment windows is to support anything! (I was a UNIX professional). seems the user profile PATH is a registry entry, and was not updated when I deinstalled Python2.7 still haven't figured out how to change it - I will NOT attempy a regedit. season's greetings On 24 December

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: > seems the user profile PATH is a registry entry, and was not updated when I > deinstalled Python2.7 > still haven't figured out how to change it - I will NOT attempy a regedit. I don't use the option to add the installation and Scripts directo

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: > > not sure what you mean by "my profile". > following your suggestion, looks normal: I meant your profile directory, "C:\Users\Nick". But printing the package path showed the problem is in your Python 3 installation itself. > C:\Users\Nick> pyt

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Nicky Mac
Dear python Team I think I've been wasting your time: C:\Users\Nick>path PATH=C:\Python27\;C:\Python27\Scripts;C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\Broadcom\Broadcom 802.11 Network Adapter;;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShel

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-24 Thread Nicky Mac
Hello again.] not sure what you mean by "my profile". following your suggestion, looks normal: C:\Users\Nick> python -c "import importlib; print(importlib.find_loader('idlelib').path)" C:\Python\Python35\lib\idlelib\__init__.pyc A search for idlelib shows this one plus one deep inside OpenOffice

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-23 Thread eryk sun
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Nicky Mac wrote: > > no sign of old Py2.7 anywhere :- > > C:\Users\Nick>python -c "import sys; print(*sys.path, sep='\n')" > > C:\Python\Python35\python35.zip > C:\Python\Python35\DLLs > C:\Python\Python35\lib > C:\Python\Python35 > C:\Python\Python35\lib\site-pack

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-23 Thread Nicky Mac
dear Python team thanks for your amazing support! no sign of old Py2.7 anywhere :- C:\Users\Nick>python -c "import sys; print(*sys.path, sep='\n')" C:\Python\Python35\python35.zip C:\Python\Python35\DLLs C:\Python\Python35\lib C:\Python\Python35 C:\Python\Python35\lib\site-packages On 23 Decemb

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-23 Thread eryk sun
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: > > I removed the old python2.7 entries in system Path, the PYTHON variables you > mentioned are not present. > All I have is Python35 in the PATH. Maybe there's still a stale directory on sys.path for another reason. Print sys.path from the comma

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-23 Thread eryk sun
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Nicky Mac wrote: > C:\Python\Python35\python.exe: Error while finding spec for > 'idlelib.__main__' (: bad magic number in 'idlelib': > b'\x03\xf3\r\n'); 'idlelib' is a package and cannot be directly executed 0xf303 (62211) is for Python 2.7. Make sure you don't h

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-23 Thread Nicky Mac
slight progress: i reinstalled ticking precompile options in the "Advanced features". Now I get this: icrosoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586] (c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Nick>python -m idlelib C:\Python\Python35\python.exe: Error while finding spec for 'idlelib.__ma

Re: unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-22 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/22/2015 3:27 PM, Nicky Mac wrote: I have run the install (and repair) which explicitly includes Tcl/Tk and l have this problem: First, I would download and install the final 3.5.1. I believe there was a change to the installer that might, possibly, make a difference. Write down exactl

unable to open IDLE for Python3.50rc1 on windows10 64bit AMD

2015-12-22 Thread Nicky Mac
I have run the install (and repair) which explicitly includes Tcl/Tk and l have this problem: Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586] (c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. >C:\Python\Python35\python.exe -m idlelib ** IDLE can't import Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured f