Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Ross Ridge
Steven D'Aprano wrote: >Hey, if the Japanese and Chinese can manage it, English speakers can >surely find a way to enter π or ∞ without a keyboard the size of a >battleship. Japanese and Chinese programmers don't use (and don't seem to want to) use non-ASCII characters outside of strin

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:52:32 +0200, Henrik Faber wrote: > If you allow for UTF-8 identifiers you'll have to be horribly careful > what to include and what to exclude. Is the non-breaking space a valid > character for a identifier? Technically it's a different character than > the normal space, so

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:24:21 +0200, Henrik Faber wrote: > I disagree. Firstly, Python could already support the different types of > strings even with the ASCII character set. For example, the choice could > have made to treat the apostophe string 'foo' differently from the > double quote string "

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread John Gordon
In Mark Lawrence writes: > Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year? In the United States, April 1st (also known as April Fool's Day) is an occasion for practical jokes, faked 'news' stories, and general silliness. I don't know if it is observed outside the U.S.

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/07/2012 15:43, Henrik Faber wrote: On 23.07.2012 16:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have domino tiles are identifier characters? 🀻 = 9 File "", line 1 🀻 = 9 ^ SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Henrik Faber
On 23.07.2012 16:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have >> domino tiles are identifier characters? >> > 🀻 = 9 >>File "", line 1 >> 🀻 = 9 >> ^ >> SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier >> >> I think there ne

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/07/2012 14:59, Henrik Faber wrote: On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: Dear Lord. Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. fööbär = 3 fööbär 3 I didn't know this. How awful.

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Alain Ketterlin
Henrik Faber writes: > On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: > >> Dear Lord. >> >> Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) >> [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > fööbär = 3 > fööbär >> 3 >> >> I didn't know thi

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Henrik Faber
On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: > Dear Lord. > > Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) > [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. fööbär = 3 fööbär > 3 > > I didn't know this. How awful. Apparently, not all c

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Henrik Faber
On 23.07.2012 15:52, Henrik Faber wrote: > but I would hate for > Python to include them into identifiers. Then again, I'm pretty sure > this is not planned anytime soon. Dear Lord. Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "licens

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Henrik Faber
On 23.07.2012 15:35, Chris Angelico wrote: > That said, though, there's good argument in allowing full Unicode in > *identifiers*. If I'm allowed to name something "foo", then a German > should be allowed to name something "foö". And since identifiers are > case sensitive (at least, they are in a

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Henrik Faber wrote: > And if I think of PHP's latest fiasco that happened with unicode > characters, it makes me shudder to think you'd want that stuff in > Python. If I remember correctly, it was the Turkish locale that they > stuggled with: Turkey apparently doe

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Henrik Faber
On 23.07.2012 14:55, Roy Smith wrote: > Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage > of the full unicode character set. Plus, if I may add this: It's *your* newsreader that broke the correctly declared ISO-8859-7 encoded subject of the OP. What a bitter irony that de

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Henrik Faber
On 23.07.2012 14:55, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <500d0632$0$1504$c3e8da3$76491...@news.astraweb.com>, > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> Technically, no, it's a SyntaxError, because the Original Poster has used >> some sort of "Smart Quotes" characters r’‘ instead of good old fashion

Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

2012-07-23 Thread Alex Strickland
On 2012/07/23 02:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote: Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage of the full unicode character set. Right now, we're working in ASCII and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line strings). Not to