On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:57:11 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
> Yeah, but why keep shipping the Python interpreter? If you choose the
> installer route, you don't have to keep shipping it -- it's only
> downloaded if you need it. If not, then you don't download it again.
I admit that not ne
On 11 July 2013 00:18, CM wrote:
>
>> I was mainly talking in the context of the original post, where it
>> seems something slightly different was meant. If you're deploying to
>> customers, you'd want to offer them an installer. At least, I think
>> you would. That's different from packing Python
> I was mainly talking in the context of the original post, where it
> seems something slightly different was meant. If you're deploying to
> customers, you'd want to offer them an installer. At least, I think
> you would. That's different from packing Python into a .exe file and
> pretending it'
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM, CM wrote:
> Can all the installation of the runtimes be done with an installer that is
> itself an .exe, like with PyInstaller? If so, that's probably fine.
It should be noted that PyInstaller is confusingly named. It actually
creates standalone executables, no
On 10 July 2013 05:49, CM wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:12:16 AM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> On , CM wrote:
>>
>> > What I was thinking of was that if you are going to sell software, you
>> > want to make it as easy as possible, and that includes not making the
>> > potential custo
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:12:16 AM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
> On , CM wrote:
>
> > What I was thinking of was that if you are going to sell software, you want
> > to make it as easy as possible, and that includes not making the potential
> > customer have to install anything, or even ag
On , CM wrote:
> What I was thinking of was that if you are going to sell software, you want
> to make it as easy as possible, and that includes not making the potential
> customer have to install anything, or even agree to allow you to "explicitly"
> install a runtime on their computer. If th
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, CM wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> Yeah, but not for Python :P. For Python .exe files are a rarity and
>> should be kept that way.
>
> That there is a significant interest in creating exe files suggest that not
> everyo
On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
> > I still think you are overstating it somewhat. Have a website on which you
> > distribute your software to end users (and maybe even--gasp--charge them
> > for it)? *That's* a good reason.
> Not really. It'd be a good reason
On 10 July 2013 00:35, CM wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:13:17 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> On 9 July 2013 03:08, Adam Evanovich wrote:
>> > Can you wrap source code/libs/apps into an EXE and just
>> > send that to the end user? Or is it more complicated for them?
>
>> Urm.. yes. But d
On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:21:22 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
> On 9 July 2013 05:46, CM wrote:
> > Maybe 5-20 MB. That's a lot bigger than a few hundred K, but it's not that
> > important to keep size down, really.
> Fair enough. It's not something I'd EMail to a friend, though.
Again, a
On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:13:17 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
> On 9 July 2013 03:08, Adam Evanovich wrote:
> > Can you wrap source code/libs/apps into an EXE and just
> > send that to the end user? Or is it more complicated for them?
>
> Urm.. yes. But don't. That's the "nuclear" option and
On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 1:03:14 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:46 PM, CM wrote:
>
> >> Target the three most popular desktop platforms all at once, no
>
> >> Linux/Windows/Mac OS versioning.
>
> > Ehhh... There are differences, in, e.g., wxPython between the three
On 9 July 2013 05:46, CM wrote:
*I said*:
>> There are projects that "bundle" the CPython interpreter with your
>> project, but this makes those files really big.
>
> Maybe 5-20 MB. That's a lot bigger than a few hundred K, but it's not that
> important to keep size down, really.
Fair enough. I
On 9 July 2013 03:08, Adam Evanovich wrote:
> Joshua,
>
> Why did you send me an email reply instead of replying in the google groups?
Apologies, although it's not quite that simple. I access this list the
way it was originally intended -- through EMail. I replied "to all",
which default to both
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:46 PM, CM wrote:
>>> There are projects that "bundle" the CPython interpreter with your
>>> project, but this makes those files really big.
>>
>> Maybe 5-20 MB. That's a lot bigger than a few hundred K, but it's not tha
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:46 PM, CM wrote:
>> There are projects that "bundle" the CPython interpreter with your
>> project, but this makes those files really big.
>
> Maybe 5-20 MB. That's a lot bigger than a few hundred K, but it's not that
> important to keep size down, really.
Funny story:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:46 PM, CM wrote:
>> Target the three most popular desktop platforms all at once, no
>> Linux/Windows/Mac OS versioning.
>
> Ehhh... There are differences, in, e.g., wxPython between the three
> platforms, and you can either do different versions or, more aptly, just fix
On Monday, July 8, 2013 9:45:16 PM UTC-4, ajetr...@gmail.com wrote:
> all,
>
>
>
> I am unhappy with the general Python documentation and tutorials.
OK. Do you mean the official Python.org docs? Which tutorials? There's a ton
out there.
> I have worked with Python very little and I'm wel
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM, wrote:
> all,
>
> I am unhappy with the general Python documentation and tutorials. I have
> worked with Python very little and I'm well aware of the fact that it is a
> lower-level language that integrates with the shell.
>
> I came from a VB legacy background an
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, wrote:
> I have to get back into writing Python but I'm lacking one thing ... a
> general understanding of how to write applications that can be deployed
> (either in .exe format or in other formats).
That's one last thing you need to un-learn, then :)
You dis
On 9 July 2013 02:45, wrote:
> all,
>
> I am unhappy with the general Python documentation and tutorials. I have
> worked with Python very little and I'm well aware of the fact that it is a
> lower-level language that integrates with the shell.
>
> I came from a VB legacy background and I've a
all,
I am unhappy with the general Python documentation and tutorials. I have
worked with Python very little and I'm well aware of the fact that it is a
lower-level language that integrates with the shell.
I came from a VB legacy background and I've already "un-learned" everything
that I need
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