kj wrote:
> I'd written a Perl module to facilitate the writing of scripts.
> It contained all my boilerplate code for parsing and validating
> command-line options, generating of accessor functions for these
> options, printing of the help message and of the full documentation,
> testing, etc.
A
On Jan 31, 2:56 pm, "A.T.Hofkamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2008-01-30, grflanagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 5:39 pm, kj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For command line options I get a long way with this:
>
> > [code python]
> > def _getargs():
> > allargs = sys.argv
On 2008-01-30, grflanagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 5:39 pm, kj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For command line options I get a long way with this:
>
> [code python]
> def _getargs():
> allargs = sys.argv[1:]
> args = []
> kwargs = {}
> key = None
> while allargs:
>
On Jan 29, 5:39 pm, kj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> It's not the Python syntax that I'm having problems with, but rather
> with larger scale issues such as the structuring of packages,
> techniques for code reuse, test suites, the structure of
> distributions,... Python and Perl seem to come
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>kj wrote:
>> Is there any good reading (to ease the transition) for Perl
>> programmers trying to learn Python?
>>
>www.diveintopython.org
Thanks. Not for Perl programmers specifically, but it looks useful
all the same.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Reedick, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Be that as it may, the activation barrier to using Python for my
>> scripting remains too high.
>>=20
>> I'd written a Perl module to facilitate the writing of scripts.
>> It contained all my boilerplate code for parsing and v
kj wrote:
> Is there any good reading (to ease the transition) for Perl
> programmers trying to learn Python?
>
www.diveintopython.org
While it is a bit dated by now (Python 2.2), that thing worked wonders
for me. Shows you Python in action and presents a fair amount of its
philosophy along th
On Jan 29, 10:39 am, kj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd written a Perl module to facilitate the writing of scripts.
> It contained all my boilerplate code for parsing and validating
> command-line options, generating of accessor functions for these
> options, printing of the help message and of t
On Jan 29, 4:39 pm, kj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not the Python syntax that I'm having problems with, but rather
> with larger scale issues such as the structuring of packages,
> techniques for code reuse, test suites, the structure of
> distributions,... Python and Perl seem to come from
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:python-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kj
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Python noob SOS (any [former?] Perlheads out there?)
>
>
>
> For many
kj a écrit :
> For many months now I've been trying to learn Python, but I guess
> I'm too old a dog trying to learn new tricks... For better or
> worse, I'm so used to Perl when it comes to scripting, that I'm
> just having a very hard time getting a hang of "The Python Way."
>
(snip)
>
> I'd w
For many months now I've been trying to learn Python, but I guess
I'm too old a dog trying to learn new tricks... For better or
worse, I'm so used to Perl when it comes to scripting, that I'm
just having a very hard time getting a hang of "The Python Way."
It's not the Python syntax that I'm ha
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
>> Amanda wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
>> I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
>
> isn't there some non-python forum where you can sort this one out ?
Why is it up to Bruno to sort this out?
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
>> Amanda wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
>> I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
>
> isn't there some non-python forum where you can sort this one out ?
Yes, you're right, sorry...
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Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Amanda wrote:
> (snip)
>> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
>
> I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
isn't there some non-python forum where you can sort this one out ?
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Amanda wrote:
(snip)
> I am always amazed when I meet fanatics!!
I'm always amazed when I meet PC-Soft's salespersons...
> Links abour Windev for those who like facts :
>
> http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/index.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/annonce10/photos.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/pc
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> any idea for a strong argument ?
* WinDev is a virtual unknown outside France. I tried asking a bunch of
colleagues about WinDev just now. Nobody has even heard about it. Prior
to doing Java I was doing
Scott David Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> While these statements do mean something to experienced programmers,
> they seem to contradict everything a power-point wielding IT executive
> who understands everything "from a 5000 foot point of view" knows to
> be true. I really wish I knew ho
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not enough.
Wolfgang Keller wrote:
>>Links abour Windev for those who like facts :
>>
>>http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/index.html
>>http://www.pcsoft.fr/annonce10/photos.html
>>http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/120pages/index.html
>
>
> Well, it _could_ be that all the readers in comp.lang.python are ut
> Links abour Windev for those who like facts :
>
> http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/index.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/annonce10/photos.html
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/120pages/index.html
Well, it _could_ be that all the readers in comp.lang.python are utterly
braindead morons with e
> Can Windev interface with .net? YES
> Can Windev interface with Java? YES
> Can Windev interface natively with nearly every relational database on the
> planet? YES
> Does Windev interface with JMS, Java RMI, SAP RFC, mqseries and other
> middleware?>> YES
> Can you easily
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not enough.
With Python the prototype _is_ the application. You just need to add a little
bit of
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
> >> I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
> >
> > I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
> > actually I was there).
> >
> > http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/tdftec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
>> I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
>
> I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
> actually I was there).
>
> http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/tdftech/2006/images/Paris/07-IMG_5853.jpg
>
> WinD
Why are they all look so gloomy? I don't see a single smile on their
faces.
:=)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
> > I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
>
> I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
> actually I was there).
>
Hi,
Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
> I've never met a programmer that "loved" Windev.
I have met some here (I'm the guy with a mustache-just kidding but
actually I was there).
http://www.pcsoft.fr/pcsoft/tdftech/2006/images/Paris/07-IMG_5853.jpg
WinDev is widely used in France and that's a thing
[Méta-MCI - translated for non-Francophones]
| Re-Bonjour !
Hello again!
| J'avais écrit, dans le message précédent, que la société
| PC-Soft avait eu des difficultés financières,
| il y a plusieurs années.
I wrote in the last message that PC-Soft had had financial
difficulties a few years ag
Re-Bonjour !
J'avais écrit, dans le message précédent, que la société PC-Soft avait eu
des difficultés financières, il y a plusieurs années.
Comme je n'ai pas eu l'occasion de vérifier cette information, (et à la
demande de la société PC-Soft), je demande donc aux lecteurs de consid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Stéphane,
>
> stéphane bard wrote:
>> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
>> I have to argue
You don't. You're one of the marketing droids from PC-Soft
To everyone here : such interventions are a well-known part of PC-Soft
(the company that sells the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Stéphane,
>
> stéphane bard wrote:
>> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
>> I have to argue
>
> First, no matter how good is Python, you should not desagree with your
> boss.
> Second, Windew is quite good and fun, you will love it.
Yes, the boss is a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Bruno,
Heck. PC-Soft marketing droids are pursuing us even here now.
> Let me guess, your favorite book is the "I HATE THE FRENCH OFFICIAL
> HANDBOOK".
je suis français, pauvre semoule.
> People here deserve a more objective opinion.
"objective" ? Lol.
> Here yo
Hi Stéphane,
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
First, no matter how good is Python, you should not desagree with your
boss.
Second, Windew is quite good and fun, you will love it.
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Thanks.
The essential, is that peoples (& you) can understand. Bbut, perso, I
don't understand the message translated (much unknowed words...)
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Thank you, Jean-Marc, for translation. I am not capable of this work.
:-)
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Hi Bruno,
Let me guess, your favorite book is the "I HATE THE FRENCH OFFICIAL
HANDBOOK". People here deserve a more objective opinion.
Here you can find what WinDev users have to say about WinDev
http://www.windev.com/pcsoft/testimonials/
There are more testimonials here (in french).
http://ww
MC wrote:
> Bonjour !
>
> Comme tu es français, tu me coprendras.
>
> Alors :
> - windev est fermé, et protégé par des dongles. Résultat : dongle
> perdu, en panne, ou volé, il faut racheter une licence (c'est arrivé à
> un ami)
> - le langage de windev est beaucoup moins évolué que Python. Et
My french is attrocious so I got Michels original post machine
transated.
I liked what Michel was saying, maybe others would like to share:
Hello! As you are French, you will coprendras me. Then: - windev is
closed, and protected by dongles. Result: dongle lost, broken down, or
flown, a licence s
Bonjour !
Comme tu es français, tu me coprendras.
Alors :
- windev est fermé, et protégé par des dongles. Résultat : dongle
perdu, en panne, ou volé, il faut racheter une licence (c'est arrivé à
un ami)
- le langage de windev est beaucoup moins évolué que Python. Et,
quand je dis beaucoup,
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not enough.
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to argue
>
> - python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
> A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
> we want to choose a language for prototyping.
> So multi platform is not
John Henry wrote:
> I don't know what windev is
A french (highly proprietary) so-called "CASE-Tool" with a so-called
"5th generation language" (lol) that is mostly a dumbed-down mix of
basic and pascal. It's so bad that it makes you regret VB6.
--
bruno desthuilliers
python -c "print '@'.join(
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
Find another job.
(I'm serious. I've 2+ years of pain with Windev, and if your boss is
clueless enough to believe all the marketing crap from PCSoft's droids,
you really don't want to work for him).
> I have to argue
>
>
I don't know what windev is but presonally, I found Python to be
incredibly productive.
BTW: I recommend that you look into PythonCard. It sits on top of
wxpython and I found it to be a very productive GUI tool.
stéphane bard wrote:
> hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
> I have to
hello, my boss ask me to prefer windev to python.
I have to argue
- python work on multiple platform (linux, mac, windows)
A good point but it didn't interest him. Because
we want to choose a language for prototyping.
So multi platform is not enough.
- python and winde
I had in the past the most ridiculous erection in the world,4in.I'm not
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My problem is that: I have a program that copy pictures from Notes NSF file.
> The format is METAFILE or METAFILEPICT.
> But I need to convert them to BMP files.
> I have wxPython, and PIL, and win32api ext.
here's one way to do it:
http://www.effbot.org/downloa
Hi !
My problem is that: I have a program that copy pictures from Notes NSF file.
The format is METAFILE or METAFILEPICT.
I can save these pictures with this code:
import win32api
import win32con
import win32gui
...
mode=0
if mode==0:
import win32clipboard, win32con
win32clipboard.OpenClipboard
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some
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jordan2856977 a écrit :
hellow everybody! I'm from china. I'm a beginner of python. in china,
python is not a fashionable language, so it's difficult to find some
books about python. finally,I find a book named "python how to
program" wrote by H.M.Deitel . who can tell me where can I find some
inte
jordan2856977 wrote:
hellow everybody! I'm from china. I'm a beginner of python. in china,
python is not a fashionable language, so it's difficult to find some
books about python. finally,I find a book named "python how to
program" wrote by H.M.Deitel . who can tell me where can I find some
interes
hellow everybody! I'm from china. I'm a beginner of python. in china,
python is not a fashionable language, so it's difficult to find some
books about python. finally,I find a book named "python how to
program" wrote by H.M.Deitel . who can tell me where can I find some
interesting source code abou
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