Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-02-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-02-02, Pete Forman wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: > >> On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> The temperature unit is the "Kelvin", not the "Degree Kelvin". >>> One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K >> >> And remember to say "Kelvins" not "Kelvin" when speaking about >> temperatures other

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-02-02 Thread wxjmfauth
Le dimanche 2 février 2014 13:45:54 UTC+1, Pete Forman a écrit : > Grant Edwards writes: > > > > > On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > >> The temperature unit is the "Kelvin", not the "Degree Kelvin". > > >> One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K > > > > > > And remember to say "Kelvin

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-02-02 Thread Pete Forman
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > >> The temperature unit is the "Kelvin", not the "Degree Kelvin". >> One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K > > And remember to say "Kelvins" not "Kelvin" when speaking about > temperatures other than 1 K. And remember to write kelvins. SI

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Dan Sommers
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:42:30 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Dan Sommers wrote: >> ObPython: My program retrieves temperatures (in Kelvins) from an >> external device (the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss) >> and stores them in the cloud (because th

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Robert Kern
On 2014-01-31 15:04, Roy Smith wrote: In article , Mark Lawrence wrote: On 31/01/2014 10:17, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Is the double line spacing that you still use despite being asked not to ASCII or unicode? It's not actually double line spacing. It's single spaced using UNICODE DOUBL

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 31/01/2014 10:17, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > > Is the double line spacing that you still use despite being asked not to > ASCII or unicode? It's not actually double line spacing. It's single spaced using UNICODE DOUBLE COMBINING LINEFEED WITH QUOTE M

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Roy Smith
In article <52eb287c$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:08:46 +, Dan Sommers wrote about temperatures: > > > And -1 K. > > > You josh, but there are negative temperatures in Kelvin. They're hotter > than infinitely hot. > > http:

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/01/2014 10:17, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Is the double line spacing that you still use despite being asked not to ASCII or unicode? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mail

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014 08:02:22 UTC+1, Rustom Mody a écrit : > On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:15:20 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: > > > Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: > > > > >> How cruel... I suspec

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/01/2014 04:08, Dan Sommers wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:21:35 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the "Kelvin", not the "Degree Kelvin". One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say "Kelvins" not "Kelvin" when speaking about

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:15:20 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: > Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: > > >> How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful > > >> than one > > > It's the 21st centu

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Dan Sommers wrote: > ObPython: My program retrieves temperatures (in Kelvins) from an > external device (the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss) > and stores them in the cloud (because that's where all the cool kids > store data these days), and there

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Dan Sommers
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:37:16 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:08:46 +, Dan Sommers wrote about temperatures: > >> And -1 K. > > You josh, but there are negative temperatures in Kelvin. They're hotter > than infinitely hot. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_tem

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:08:46 +, Dan Sommers wrote about temperatures: > And -1 K. You josh, but there are negative temperatures in Kelvin. They're hotter than infinitely hot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Dan Sommers
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:21:35 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > >> The temperature unit is the "Kelvin", not the "Degree Kelvin". >> One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K > > And remember to say "Kelvins" not "Kelvin" when speaking about > temperatures other than 1 K.

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > The temperature unit is the "Kelvin", not the "Degree Kelvin". > One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say "Kelvins" not "Kelvin" when speaking about temperatures other than 1 K. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! BELA LUG

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-30, Christian Heimes wrote: > On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature >>> It's the 21st century; you should be mak

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-01-30, Christian Heimes wrote: >> On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: > How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful > than one > at room

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread MRAB
On 2014-01-30 08:45, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: >> How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful >> than one >> at room temperature >> > It's the 21st ce

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread wxjmfauth
Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 10:49:11 UTC+1, Christian Heimes a écrit : > On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: > > >>> How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful > > >>> than one > > >>> at room temperature > >

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature >>> It's the 21st century;

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Christian Heimes
On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: >>> How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful >>> than one >>> at room temperature >>> >> It's the 21st century; you should be making use of Unicode: 0°C. > > I started to read

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread wxjmfauth
Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: > > >> How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful > > >> than one > > >> at room temperature > > >> > > > It's the 21st century; you should be making u

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Gregory Ewing
Grant Edwards wrote: smacked across the knuckes with a 12-inch platinum-iridium ruler Imperial or Scottish inches? -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: >> How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful >> than one >> at room temperature >> > It's the 21st century; you should be making use of Unicode: 0°C. I started to read that and thought you were going to advocate the use of

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread MRAB
On 2014-01-30 01:50, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:28:16 +1100, Chris Angelico declaimed the following: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:02:53 + (UTC), Grant Edwards declaimed the following: to be smacked across the k

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:02:53 + (UTC), Grant Edwards > declaimed the following: > > >>to be smacked across the knuckes with a 12-inch platinum-iridium ruler > > Under what temperature/pressure conditions is that ruler? STP,

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-29, Skip Montanaro wrote: > According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): > > "UTC is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in > the United Kingdom." > > If they are equal, The question is _are_ they equal? There is an exact defintion for what "UTC" is,

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Ben Finney
Skip Montanaro writes: > According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): > > "‘UTC’ is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in > the United Kingdom." This is inaccurate, and I'd like to see it corrected in the documentation. UTC is neither UT nor GMT. GMT is not p

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): > > "‘UTC’ is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in > the United Kingdom." > > If they are equal, why don't timezone objects created from those two > strings co

pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Skip Montanaro
According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): "‘UTC’ is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in the United Kingdom." If they are equal, why don't timezone objects created from those two strings compare equal? >>> pytz.timezone("UTC") == pytz.timezone("GMT") False