Re: python gui builders

2009-11-25 Thread Stef Mientki
Shawn Wheatley wrote: It's not quite all encompassing, but I found this link last year when looking for a similar comparison of Python GUIs: http://ginstrom.com/scribbles/2008/02/26/python-gui-programming-platforms-for-windows/ Tkinter, Qt, GTK, IronPython... I think the only thing missing is Jy

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-24 Thread Shawn Wheatley
It's not quite all encompassing, but I found this link last year when looking for a similar comparison of Python GUIs: http://ginstrom.com/scribbles/2008/02/26/python-gui-programming-platforms-for-windows/ Tkinter, Qt, GTK, IronPython... I think the only thing missing is Jython w/ Swing or SWT. Ch

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-20 Thread sturlamolden
On 18 Nov, 22:18, David Bolen wrote: > With that said, for various reasons I still prefer wxPython to Qt, and > at the moment, find wxFormBuilder the best fit for my own designs > (even before the direct Python support, just using XRC). Personally I prefer wxFormBuilder over QtDesigner for sizer

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-20 Thread David Boddie
On Thursday 19 November 2009 11:50, Simon Hibbs wrote: > I don't think a list like this is a great way to do that. There are > plenty of examples and tutorials available for each option. This site has a selection of tutorials that can be used to compare API and code styles: http://zetcode.com/

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-20 Thread Simon Hibbs
On 18 Nov, 22:11, Stef Mientki wrote: > Simon Hibbs wrote: > > On 18 Nov, 07:51, sturlamolden wrote: > > >> GPL > > > PyQT is GPL for now, but Qt itself is available under the LGPL as is > > PySide. Eventualy PySide, which tracks the PyQT API, will supplant it > > and the issue will be moot. For

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-20 Thread sturlamolden
On 18 Nov, 23:56, Kevin Walzer wrote: > wxWidgets (the C++ library) has support for a lot of things other than > UI bits, as well. wxPython itself is mainly a GUI library because the > additional features of wxWidgets in C++ are redundant in Python. That is true. Nobody uses wxPython for socket

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-19 Thread sturlamolden
On 18 Nov, 20:19, Dave Cook wrote: > If it's an issue for your project, I suggest wxPython.  It's > cross-platform, fairly complete, and extensible.  But the API is > clunky compared to Qt. Not if we use wxFormBuilder 3.1. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-18 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 11/18/09 4:15 PM, Simon Hibbs wrote: On 17 Nov, 23:25, Kevin Walzer wrote: On 11/17/09 4:25 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: +1 Tkinter for the simple stuff You can actually use Tkinter to do quite sophisticated GUI's that rival anything found in Qt or wx... Neither Tkinteror Wx have anything t

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-18 Thread Stef Mientki
Simon Hibbs wrote: On 18 Nov, 07:51, sturlamolden wrote: GPL PyQT is GPL for now, but Qt itself is available under the LGPL as is PySide. Eventualy PySide, which tracks the PyQT API, will supplant it and the issue will be moot. For now it can be a problem, but PyQT developer licenses

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-18 Thread David Bolen
Simon Hibbs writes: > I've had this problem for a few years. I've tried PythonCard, > WxWidgets with WxDesigner, BoaConstructor, etc. None of them come > anywhere close to PyQT/QTDesigner. For me, the killer feature missing from of all of the wx-based designers is that they require sizer based d

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-18 Thread Simon Hibbs
On 17 Nov, 23:25, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 11/17/09 4:25 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > > +1 Tkinter for the simple stuff > > You can actually use Tkinter to do quite sophisticated GUI's that rival > anything found in Qt or wx... Neither Tkinteror Wx have anything that come close to QGraphicsView, t

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-18 Thread Simon Hibbs
On 18 Nov, 07:51, sturlamolden wrote: > > GPL PyQT is GPL for now, but Qt itself is available under the LGPL as is PySide. Eventualy PySide, which tracks the PyQT API, will supplant it and the issue will be moot. For now it can be a problem, but PyQT developer licenses are very afordable at only

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Cook
On 2009-11-18, sturlamolden wrote: > GPL If it's an issue for your project, I suggest wxPython. It's cross-platform, fairly complete, and extensible. But the API is clunky compared to Qt. Dave Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread sturlamolden
On 18 Nov, 04:21, Dave Cook wrote: > On 2009-11-16, me wrote: > > > Also looked at the frames/forms created with QtDesigner, which > > can be used by Python via pyuic. > > That's what I would recommend.  What did you not like about it? GPL -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Yinon Ehrlich
On Nov 18, 8:10 am, sturlamolden wrote: > On 17 Nov, 19:34, r wrote: > > > Agreed! Tkinter (besides myself) seems to be the whipping boy of > > c.l.py. Tkinter has it's place in Python because of the same > > simplicity people laboriously lament about! Until something else comes > > along that ca

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread sturlamolden
On 17 Nov, 19:34, r wrote: > Agreed! Tkinter (besides myself) seems to be the whipping boy of > c.l.py. Tkinter has it's place in Python because of the same > simplicity people laboriously lament about! Until something else comes > along that can offer the same benefits of Tkinter and a little ex

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Cook
On 2009-11-16, me wrote: > Also looked at the frames/forms created with QtDesigner, which > can be used by Python via pyuic. That's what I would recommend. What did you not like about it? Dave Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 11/17/09 4:25 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: +1 Tkinter for the simple stuff You can actually use Tkinter to do quite sophisticated GUI's that rival anything found in Qt or wx... -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Simon Hibbs wrote: > On 16 Nov, 10:06, me wrote: > >> What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me >> to learn another framework/library, and can crank out stuff for >> multiple platforms ? > > You're looking for a framework/library that doesn't require you to > learn it. OK...

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Finney
Scott David Daniels writes: > Well, let's see. You want to do gui work without learning things. Good > luck with that. If you discover how, I'd like to learn tensor analysis > without using symbols or operations more complex than addition and > subtraction. Maybe your groundwork can help me out w

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Joel Davis
On Nov 16, 5:06 am, me wrote: > Good People > > I do not write stuff for humans, as it has been my job to remove > humans from the loop. But I have to make a front end to a > component database where everything was built in Python. > > I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into Python -> not

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread CM
On Nov 16, 5:06 am, me wrote: > Good People > > I do not write stuff for humans, as it has been my job to remove > humans from the loop. But I have to make a front end to a > component database where everything was built in Python. > > I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into Python -> not

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread r
On Nov 17, 12:20 pm, Simon Hibbs wrote: > I wouldn't completely dismiss Tkinter. It's too simple for complex > GUIs but I still think it has it's place for basic utilities. Agreed! Tkinter (besides myself) seems to be the whipping boy of c.l.py. Tkinter has it's place in Python because of the sa

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Simon Hibbs
On 16 Nov, 10:06, me wrote: > What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me > to learn another framework/library, and can crank out stuff for > multiple platforms ? You're looking for a framework/library that doesn't require you to learn it. OK I've had this problem for a f

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Scott David Daniels
me wrote: I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into Python -> not acceptable. Such insightful analysis, and it is _so_ helpful in stating your needs. [a lot of guff about unacceptable things] What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me to learn another framework/

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread me
Read the OP. No, read it again. sturlamolden wrote: On 16 Nov, 11:39, sturlamolden wrote: If you are fine with Microsoft only, you can use Windows Forms with MS Visual Studio and IronPython. I also forgot to mention: If you can restrict yourself to Windows, you can always use Visual Basic

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-16 Thread sturlamolden
On 16 Nov, 11:39, sturlamolden wrote: > If you are fine with Microsoft only, you can use Windows Forms with MS > Visual Studio and IronPython. I also forgot to mention: If you can restrict yourself to Windows, you can always use Visual Basic or Borland Delphi with pywin32. Either expose your GU

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-16 Thread sturlamolden
On 16 Nov, 11:06, me wrote: > What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me > to learn another framework/library, and can crank out stuff for > multiple platforms ? I use wxFormBuilder. The 3.1 beta can even create wxPython code, but it still has some minor issues (e.g. not alwa

python gui builders

2009-11-16 Thread me
Good People I do not write stuff for humans, as it has been my job to remove humans from the loop. But I have to make a front end to a component database where everything was built in Python. I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into Python -> not acceptable. So looking at wxGlade, Bo