Re: misleading prefix ++

2006-05-21 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz
Edward Elliott wrote: > Peter Otten wrote: [snip] > > Now that is absolutely lovely. Looks like it's time to join the ranks of > Perl and C with an Obfuscated Python Contest. ;) > yes, please! and you get special points for programs that seem to do one thing but do something totally entirely

Re: misleading prefix ++

2006-05-20 Thread Edward Elliott
Peter Otten wrote: class Int(object): [snip] > ... def __pos__(self): > ... if self.half: > ... self.value += 1 > ... self.half = not self.half > ... return self [snip] i = Int() which leads us to: i > 0 +i > 0

Re: misleading prefix ++

2006-05-20 Thread Peter Otten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but when I input: ++i > and the interpreter replies > 0 > > Don't you think it is misleading when you expect a variable to > increment? You have been warned... $ cat pp.py i = 42 ++i print i --i $ pychecker pp.py Processing pp... 42 Warnings... pp.py:2: Operato

Re: misleading prefix ++

2006-05-20 Thread Tim Chase
>++i >> >>and the interpreter replies >>0 >> >>Don't you think it is misleading when you expect a variable to >>increment? >> > > Terribly. So stop expecting it to increment :) > > Seriously, --i is also valid Python. Both expressions apply two unary > operators to a name. Would you have the

Re: misleading prefix ++

2006-05-20 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Don't you think it is misleading when you expect a variable to > increment? no. and in my experience, most people know that they cannot just type random stuff into a computer and expect it to do what they want. (have you figured out *why* this is valid syntax, and wh

Re: misleading prefix ++

2006-05-20 Thread Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > given i = 0, > I know i = i + 1 and i += 1 are all correct > but when I type: > i++ > > the interpreter replies: > File "", line 1 > i++ > ^ > SyntaxError: invalid syntax > > so I get the idea that suffix ++ is invalid in python > but when I input: > >

misleading prefix ++

2006-05-20 Thread LuciferLeo
given i = 0, I know i = i + 1 and i += 1 are all correct but when I type: >>> i++ the interpreter replies: File "", line 1 i++ ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax so I get the idea that suffix ++ is invalid in python but when I input: >>> ++i and the interpreter replies 0 Don't you think it