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in bericht
, inzake:
het volgende.
> Suddenly I can no longer add blogs to Django. Django says 'blog
> matching query does not exist'. That seems strange to me because I
> want to a
unsubscribe
-Bat
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 14:32, mailingli...@vanwingerde.nl wrote:
>
> Suddenly I can no longer add blogs to Django. Django says 'blog
> matching query does not exist'. That seems strange to me because I want
> to add something to the database and not r
Suddenly I can no longer add blogs to Django. Django says 'blog
matching query does not exist'. That seems strange to me because I want
to add something to the database and not request a blog. What could be
going on here?
admin.py:
class blogadmin(admin.ModelAdmin):
def save_
The migration was from 2.7 to 2.7 and 3.x, rather than 3.x only.
I think it worth reading for anyone interested in the subject.
https://zato.io/blog/posts/python-3-migration-success-story.html
60,000 lines of Python and Cython, 130 external dependencies (but only
10 not already 3.x ready) took
Python for Engineers - Solve Problems by Coding Solutions
https://pythonforengineers.blogspot.in
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On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> I'll write for the possible benefit of any beginners who may be reading.
> I guess by definition, if one still has a "bug" it's because one doesn't
> quite understand what the code is doing. And I would say you should lose
> your license if you "f
Bill wrote:
Don't be afraid to write *really descriptive* output statements, and do
so even though you "don't need to".
Yeah, often when I'm writing something tricky I'll proactively
put in some code to print intermediate state to reassure myself
that things are on track. Being more verbose wit
Steve D'Aprano wrote:
(1) I know there's a bug in a specific chunk of code, but I'm having trouble
working out where. When everything else fails, if I perturb the code a bit
(reorder lines, calculate things in a different order, rename variables, etc)
it may change the nature of the bug enough fo
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 5:14 AM, Bill wrote:
> I'll write for the possible benefit of any beginners who may be reading. I
> guess by definition, if one still has a "bug" it's because one doesn't quite
> understand what the code is doing. And I would say you should lose your
> license if you "fix
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
Oh, and I'd like to make a (moderate) defense of a kind of "bug fixing by random
perturbation". Obviously making unrelated, arbitrary changes to code is bad.
But making non-arbitrary but not fully understood changes to
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> Oh, and I'd like to make a (moderate) defense of a kind of "bug fixing by
> random
> perturbation". Obviously making unrelated, arbitrary changes to code is bad.
> But making non-arbitrary but not fully understood changes to relevant code
>
On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 08:34 pm, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> On 09/29/2017 03:15 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>> "Carefully-designed experiments" -- yeah, that is so totally how the coders
>> I've worked with operate *wink*
>>
>> I think that's an awfully optimistic description of how the average
>> programme
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:52 AM, justin walters wrote:
>
> I got through writing all of the above without realizing that you meant you
> wanted to build a
> desktop application and not a web application. Though, I think the advice
> is still helpful.
>
>
Yes and no. Seriously thanks!
I am at fi
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Leam Hall wrote:
> On 09/27/2017 10:33 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>
>Some areas of knowledge follow, a programmer should not be
>>ignorant in all of them:
>>
>
> ---
>
> Stefan, this is list AWESOME!
>
> I have started mapping skills I have to the list and ways
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:34 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> On 09/29/2017 03:15 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> "Carefully-designed experiments" -- yeah, that is so totally how the
>> coders I've
>> worked with operate *wink*
>>
>> I think that's an awfully optimistic description of how the average
>> p
On 09/29/2017 03:15 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
"Carefully-designed experiments" -- yeah, that is so totally how the coders I've
worked with operate *wink*
I think that's an awfully optimistic description of how the average programmer
works :-)
Better not hire average programmers then. I do "Ca
On 09/27/2017 10:33 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
Some areas of knowledge follow, a programmer should not be
ignorant in all of them:
---
Stefan, this is list AWESOME!
I have started mapping skills I have to the list and ways to build
skills I don't have. Last night I started working on a pro
Steve D'Aprano wrote:
(say). Reading error messages is a skill that must be learned, even in Python.
Let alone (say) gcc error messages, which are baroque to an extreme. The other
day I was getting an error like:
/tmp/ccchKJVU.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0(int,
int)'
On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 03:28 pm, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> finding the bug is basically searching
>> through a problem space of all things that could potentially cause
>> this symptom. A novice could accidentally stumble onto the right
>> solution to a tricky bug, or an expert c
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> finding the bug is basically searching
>> through a problem space of all things that could potentially cause
>> this symptom. A novice could accidentally stumble onto the right
>> solution to a tricky bug, or an ex
Chris Angelico wrote:
finding the bug is basically searching
through a problem space of all things that could potentially cause
this symptom. A novice could accidentally stumble onto the right
solution to a tricky bug, or an expert could search a thousand other
things and only get to the true cau
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Yep. Pick anyone on this list that you believe is an expert, and ask
> him/her for a story of a long debug session that ended up finding a
> tiny problem. I can pretty much guarantee that every expert programmer
> will have multiple such exp
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Bill wrote:
> I won't claim to be any sort of "expert". But one memorable problem, for
> me, was ultimately accounted for by the "inherent problem" of the floating
> point variables x0 and xo coexisting in the same module. It's sort of funny
> if you think about
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Bill wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
Be careful with this one. For anything other than trivial errors (and
even for some trivial errors), finding the bug is basically searching
through a problem space of all things that could potentially caus
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Bill wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> Be careful with this one. For anything other than trivial errors (and
>> even for some trivial errors), finding the bug is basically searching
>> through a problem space of all things that could potentially cause
>> this sy
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Bill wrote:
Paul Moore wrote:
On 27 September 2017 at 17:41, leam hall wrote:
Hehe...I've been trying to figure out how to phrase a question. Knowing
I'm
not the only one who gets frustrated really helps.
I'm trying to learn to be a pro
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Bill wrote:
> Paul Moore wrote:
>>
>> On 27 September 2017 at 17:41, leam hall wrote:
>>>
>>> Hehe...I've been trying to figure out how to phrase a question. Knowing
>>> I'm
>>> not the only one who gets frustrated really helps.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to learn to be a
Paul Moore wrote:
On 27 September 2017 at 17:41, leam hall wrote:
Hehe...I've been trying to figure out how to phrase a question. Knowing I'm
not the only one who gets frustrated really helps.
I'm trying to learn to be a programmer. I can look at a book and read basic
code in a few languages b
On 09/28/2017 04:15 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
With Python, I'd say that an appreciation of the available libraries
is key - both what's in the stdlib, and what's available from PyPI.
That's not to say you should memorise the standard library, but rather
cultivate an approach of "hmm, I'm pretty sure
On 09/28/2017 07:35 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
But remember that paid programmers usually do not "code",
in the sense of "write a program from scratch". Most of the
work is maintenance programming, where an important part of
the job is to read and understand a piece of code.
Coding fro
My question has received several helpful responses, thanks!
On 09/28/2017 01:01 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:41:24 -0400, leam hall
declaimed the following:
"Programmer"... or "Software Engineer"?
I haven't kept up on "job titles" but for my history, "pro
On 2017-09-28, bartc wrote:
> On 28/09/2017 12:31, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>> Until now, I thought that people who wrote crappy code did so
>> because they didn't know any better. This is the first time
>> I've seen somebody state publicly that they have no interest
>> in writing clean code.
>
> I m
On 28/09/2017 12:31, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:12 pm, bartc wrote:
And I have little interest in most of this lot (my eyes glaze over just
reading some of these):
> - how to use operating systems
You've never used a system call? Written to a file? Moved the mouse?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:18:10 -0700, Larry Hudson wrote:
> On 09/27/2017 09:41 AM, leam hall wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ned Batchelder
>> wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> The question is, what should a person "know" when hiring out as a
>> programmer? What is 'know" and what should be "known
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:12 pm, bartc wrote:
> And I have little interest in most of this lot (my eyes glaze over just
> reading some of these):
>
> > - how to use operating systems
You've never used a system call? Written to a file? Moved the mouse?
> > - how to use an editor well (
On 28/09/2017 03:33, Stefan Ram wrote:
Larry Hudson writes:
Hopefully NOT like this person...
Since I teach nights at a local community college
a programmer who couldn't program
It is not clear what »this person« refers to:
Do you hope one is not like that teacher who
public
On 27 September 2017 at 17:41, leam hall wrote:
> Hehe...I've been trying to figure out how to phrase a question. Knowing I'm
> not the only one who gets frustrated really helps.
>
> I'm trying to learn to be a programmer. I can look at a book and read basic
> code in a few languages but it would
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:41:24 -0400, leam hall wrote:
> The question is, what should a person "know" when hiring out as a
> programmer? What is 'know" and what should be "known"? Specifically
> with Python.
The longer I claim to be a programmer, the more I discover how wide a
net that is. Web sit
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Larry Hudson via Python-list
wrote:
>
> It had turned out his company had paid for him to take the course. Since he
> failed, it suddenly came to the attention of his employer that he didn't
> know how to program, and now his job was in jeopardy. As I hung up the
On 09/27/2017 09:41 AM, leam hall wrote:
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ned Batchelder
wrote:
[snip]
The question is, what should a person "know" when hiring out as a
programmer? What is 'know" and what should be "known"? Specifically with
Python.
Hopefully NOT like this person...
(Sourc
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:41 PM, leam hall wrote:
> The question is, what should a person "know" when hiring out as a
> programmer? What is 'know" and what should be "known"? Specifically with
> Python.
Fake it till you make it!
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On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ned Batchelder
wrote:
> On 9/23/17 2:52 PM, Leam Hall wrote:
>
>> On 09/23/2017 02:40 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>
>>> https://nedbatchelder.com//blog/201709/beginners_and_experts.html
>>>
>>> Great post.
>>>
&g
On 9/23/17 2:52 PM, Leam Hall wrote:
On 09/23/2017 02:40 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
https://nedbatchelder.com//blog/201709/beginners_and_experts.html
Great post.
Yup. Thanks for the link. I often have that "I bet Fred> doesn't get frustrated." thing going. Nice to know Ned b
On 9/23/2017 2:52 PM, Leam Hall wrote:
On 09/23/2017 02:40 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
https://nedbatchelder.com//blog/201709/beginners_and_experts.html
Great post.
Yup. Thanks for the link. I often have that "I bet Fred> doesn't get frustrated." thing going. Nice to know Ned b
On 09/23/2017 02:40 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
https://nedbatchelder.com//blog/201709/beginners_and_experts.html
Great post.
Yup. Thanks for the link. I often have that "I bet Fred> doesn't get frustrated." thing going. Nice to know Ned bangs his
head now and again. :P
https://nedbatchelder.com//blog/201709/beginners_and_experts.html
Great post.
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 15:29 Laura Creighton wrote:
In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:10:21 +0100, Mark Lawrence writes:
>On 08/10/2015 14:39, beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote:
>> There used to be a blog about SciPy at https <https://planet.scipy.org/>
:// <https:
In a message of Thu, 08 Oct 2015 15:10:21 +0100, Mark Lawrence writes:
>On 08/10/2015 14:39, beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote:
>> There used to be a blog about SciPy at https://planet.scipy.org/ ,
>> discussing the applications of Python to scientific computing. Now there is
&
On 08/10/2015 14:39, beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote:
There used to be a blog about SciPy at https://planet.scipy.org/ , discussing the
applications of Python to scientific computing. Now there is a static page about
"MPI for Python". What happened?
Presumably http://www
There used to be a blog about SciPy at https://planet.scipy.org/ , discussing
the applications of Python to scientific computing. Now there is a static page
about "MPI for Python". What happened?
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Hi Marc-André,
Cool for EuroPython,
Good idea, I think we will use tumblr for a small blog for Python-FOSDEM.
Stef
On 17 Jan 2014, at 13:37, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> The EuroPython Society has setup a new blog for EuroPython in its
> efforts to provide more conference facilities f
The EuroPython Society has setup a new blog for EuroPython in its
efforts to provide more conference facilities for the EuroPython
organization and to enhance the EuroPython attendee experience.
http://blog.europython.eu/
There’s an RSS feed in case you want to subscribe to it:
http
On 07/01/2014 13:34, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le dimanche 5 janvier 2014 23:14:07 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
Ned : this has already been explained and illustrated.
jmf
This has never been explained and illustrated. Roughly 30 minutes ago
Terry Reedy once again completely shot your argu
On 1/8/2014 4:59 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
[responding to me]
The FSR acts more as an coding scheme selector
That is what PEP 393 describes and what I and many others have said. The
FSR saves memory by selecting from three choices the most compact coding
scheme for each string.
I ask a
Le mercredi 8 janvier 2014 01:02:22 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
> On 1/7/2014 9:54 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> > On 1/7/2014 8:34 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> Le dimanche 5 janvier 2014 23:14:07 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
>
> >
>
> >>> Memory: Point 2. A *design goal* of FSR was to s
On 1/7/2014 9:54 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/7/2014 8:34 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le dimanche 5 janvier 2014 23:14:07 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
Memory: Point 2. A *design goal* of FSR was to save memory relative to
UTF-32, which is what you apparently prefer. Your examples show that
On 8 January 2014 00:34, wrote:
>
> Point 2: This Flexible String Representation does no
> "effectuate" any memory optimization. It only succeeds
> to do the opposite of what a corrrect usage of utf*
> do.
>
UTF-8 is a variable-width encoding that uses less memory to encode code
points with lowe
On 1/7/2014 8:34 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le dimanche 5 janvier 2014 23:14:07 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
Memory: Point 2. A *design goal* of FSR was to save memory relative to
UTF-32, which is what you apparently prefer. Your examples show that FSF
successfully met its design goal. Bu
Le dimanche 5 janvier 2014 23:14:07 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
> On 1/5/2014 9:23 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 23:46:49 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
>
> >> On 1/4/2014 2:10 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> And I could add, I *never* saw once one soul, who
On 06/01/2014 01:54, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
(However, to the extent that Amazon has gained monopoly power over the book
market, that reasoning may not apply. Amazon is not *technically* a
monopoly, but they are clearly well on the way to be
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> (However, to the extent that Amazon has gained monopoly power over the book
> market, that reasoning may not apply. Amazon is not *technically* a
> monopoly, but they are clearly well on the way to becoming one, at which
> point the custome
Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
>> > I've got a new sorting algorithm which is guaranteed to cut 10 seconds
>> > off the sorting time (i.e. $0.10 per package). The problem is, it
>> > makes a mistake 1% of the time.
Chris Angelico wrote about Amazon:
> And yet I can't disagree with your final conclusion. Empirical
> evidence goes against my incredulous declaration that "surely this is
> a bad idea" - according to XKCD 1165, they're kicking out nearly a
> cubic meter a SECOND of packages.
Yes, but judging
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 1/5/2014 11:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Amazon's (short-term) goal is to increase their market share by
>>> undercutting everybody on price. They have implemented a box-packing
On 1/5/2014 11:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
Amazon's (short-term) goal is to increase their market share by
undercutting everybody on price. They have implemented a box-packing
algorithm which clearly has a bug in it. You are complaining that t
On 1/5/2014 9:23 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
My examples are ONLY ILLUSTRATING, this FSR
is wrong by design,
Let me answer you a different way. If FSR is 'wrong by design', so are
the alternatives. Hence, the claim is, in itself, useless as a guide to
choosing. The choices:
* Keep the p
On 1/5/2014 9:23 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 23:46:49 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
On 1/4/2014 2:10 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
And I could add, I *never* saw once one soul, who is
explaining what I'm doing wrong in the gazillion
of examples I gave on this list.
Chris Angelico wrote:
> Can you really run a business by not caring about your customers?
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/76/76aphonecompany.phtml
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On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> Amazon's (short-term) goal is to increase their market share by
> undercutting everybody on price. They have implemented a box-packing
> algorithm which clearly has a bug in it. You are complaining that they
> failed to deliver your purchase in
In article ,
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> > I've got a new sorting algorithm which is guaranteed to cut 10 seconds
> > off the sorting time (i.e. $0.10 per package). The problem is, it makes
> > a mistake 1% of the time.
>
> That's a valid line of
In article <52c94fec$0$29973$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> How do we tell when software is buggy? We compare what it actually does to
> the promised behaviour, or expected behaviour, and if there is a
> discrepancy, we call it a bug. We don't compare it to some id
On 1/5/14 9:23 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 23:46:49 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
On 1/4/2014 2:10 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not mind to be considered as an idiot, but
I'm definitively not blind.
And I could add, I *never* saw once one soul, who is
explaini
Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 23:46:49 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a écrit :
> On 1/4/2014 2:10 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 15:17:40 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit :
>
>
>
> >> any, and Python has only one, idiot like jmf who completely
>
>
>
> Chris, I appreciate the many
Johannes Bauer, 05.01.2014 13:14:
> I've pushed the
> migration of *large* projects at work to Python3 when support was pretty
> early and it really wasn't a huge deal.
I think there are two sides to consider. Those who can switch their code
base to Py3 and be happy (as you did, apparently), and t
On 31/12/2013 09:53, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
http://blog.startifact.com/posts/alex-gaynor-on-python-3.html.
I quote:
"...perhaps a brave group of volunteers will stand up and fork Python 2, and
take the incremental steps forward. This will have to remain just an idle
sugg
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> - "The Unix 'locate' command doesn't do a live search of the file
> system because that would be too slow, it uses a snapshot of the
> state of the file system."
>
>
> Is locate buggy because it tells you what files existed the last tim
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Fast is never more important than correct. It's just that sometimes you
>> might compromise a little (or a lot) on what counts as correct in order
>> for some speed.
>
> Is this statement even falsifiable? Can
On 31.12.2013 10:53, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> http://blog.startifact.com/posts/alex-gaynor-on-python-3.html.
>
> I quote:
>
> "...perhaps a brave group of volunteers will stand up and fork Python 2, and
> take the incremental steps forward. This will have to remain just
Le dimanche 5 janvier 2014 03:54:29 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit :
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
>
> > wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> The very interesting aspect in the way you are holding
>
> >> unicodes (strings). By comparing Python 2 with Python 3.
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Fast is never more important than correct. It's just that sometimes you
> might compromise a little (or a lot) on what counts as correct in order for
> some speed.
Is this statement even falsifiable? Can you conceive of a circumstance
where
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> I've got a new sorting algorithm which is guaranteed to cut 10 seconds
> off the sorting time (i.e. $0.10 per package). The problem is, it makes
> a mistake 1% of the time.
That's a valid line of argument in big business, these days, because
we'
Roy Smith wrote:
> I wrote:
>> > I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
>> > fast is more important than correct.
>
> In article <52c8c301$0$29998$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Fast is never more important than correct.
>
> Sur
In article ,
Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> > I wrote:
> >> > I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
> >> > fast is more important than correct.
> >
> > In article <52c8c301$0$29998$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
> >
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> I wrote:
>> > I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
>> > fast is more important than correct.
>
> In article <52c8c301$0$29998$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Fast is never more i
I wrote:
> > I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
> > fast is more important than correct.
In article <52c8c301$0$29998$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Fast is never more important than correct.
Sure it is.
Let's imagine you're b
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The very interesting aspect in the way you are holding
>> unicodes (strings). By comparing Python 2 with Python 3.3,
>> you are comparing utf-8 with the the internal "representation"
>> of Python 3.3 (the flex
wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> The very interesting aspect in the way you are holding
> unicodes (strings). By comparing Python 2 with Python 3.3,
> you are comparing utf-8 with the the internal "representation"
> of Python 3.3 (the flexible string represenation).
This is incorrect. Python 2 has ne
On 2014-01-05 02:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
But regardless of how fast your path-finder algorithm might become, you're
unlikely to be satisfied with a solution that travels around in a circle
from A to B a million times then shoots off strai
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> But regardless of how fast your path-finder algorithm might become, you're
> unlikely to be satisfied with a solution that travels around in a circle
> from A to B a million times then shoots off straight to Z without passing
> through any o
Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Surely everybody prefers fast but incorrect code in
>> preference to something that is correct but slow?
>
> I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
> fast is more important than correct.
I know somebod
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 1/4/2014 2:10 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 15:17:40 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit :
>
>
>>> any, and Python has only one, idiot like jmf who completely
>
>
> Chris, I appreciate the many contributions you make
On 1/4/2014 2:10 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 15:17:40 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit :
any, and Python has only one, idiot like jmf who completely
Chris, I appreciate the many contributions you make to this list, but
that does not exempt you from out standard of c
Le samedi 4 janvier 2014 15:17:40 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit :
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
>
> > In article ,
>
> > Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Surely everybody prefers fast but incorrect code in
>
> >> preference to something that is correct but slow?
>
>
On 1/4/14 9:17 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
Mark Lawrence wrote:
Surely everybody prefers fast but incorrect code in
preference to something that is correct but slow?
I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes,
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> Surely everybody prefers fast but incorrect code in
>> preference to something that is correct but slow?
>
> I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
> fast is more importan
In article ,
Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Surely everybody prefers fast but incorrect code in
> preference to something that is correct but slow?
I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but yes, sometimes
fast is more important than correct. Sometimes the other way around.
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Le vendredi 3 janvier 2014 12:14:41 UTC+1, Robin Becker a écrit :
> On 02/01/2014 18:37, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> > On 1/2/2014 12:36 PM, Robin Becker wrote:
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> >
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> >> I just spent a large amount of effort porting reportlab to a version
>
> >> which works with both python2.7 and python3.3. I h
On 02/01/2014 17:36, Robin Becker wrote:
On 31/12/2013 15:41, Roy Smith wrote:
I'm using 2.7 in production. I realize that at some point we'll need to
upgrade to 3.x. We'll keep putting that off as long as the "effort +
dependencies + risk" metric exceeds the "perceived added value" metric.
On 03/01/2014 22:00, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/3/2014 7:28 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
On 03/01/2014 09:01, Terry Reedy wrote:
There was more speedup in 3.3.2 and possibly even more in 3.3.3, so OP
should run the latter.
python 3.3.3 is what I use on windows. As for astral / non-bmp etc etc
that's
On 1/3/2014 7:28 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
On 03/01/2014 09:01, Terry Reedy wrote:
There was more speedup in 3.3.2 and possibly even more in 3.3.3, so OP
should run the latter.
python 3.3.3 is what I use on windows. As for astral / non-bmp etc etc
that's almost irrelevant for the sort of tests w
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