Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 14/11/2013 02:55, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> >> Please Mark, and anyone else reading, I'm begging you on bended knee, >> take your flaming off list. You can be a valued member of this community >> when you put your mind to it, but your p

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-14 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Nov 14, 2013 5:55 AM, "Nick the Gr33k" wrote: > > Will someone please tell me how to install 'pip' > > My website is not working because modules are missing and the only way i can install them is by installing python's module manager 'pip' > > but 'yum install python-pip' fails. > > How would i

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 14/11/2013 02:55, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Please Mark, and anyone else reading, I'm begging you on bended knee, take your flaming off list. You can be a valued member of this community when you put your mind to it, but your prideful refusal to stop attacking Nikos is helping to wreck this comm

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Nick the Gr33k wrote: > These action should be done via package managers but i wasn't ven able to > install python 3.4a like that, i had to compile it form source when the easy > thing to do was "yum install python3" > > what wrong with this 'yum' manager? With y

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-14 Thread Nick the Gr33k
Will someone please tell me how to install 'pip' My website is not working because modules are missing and the only way i can install them is by installing python's module manager 'pip' but 'yum install python-pip' fails. How would i install the damn thing? These action should be done via pa

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-14 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 14/11/2013 2:54 πμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 00:00:04 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 11:56 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: But i have gone to the link and did what it said and it didn't proved usefull thats why i re-ask. Try looking for a packag

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:10:09 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Stop him and stop the spoon feeders and I stop. Simples. Oh, why didn't you say so in the first place? Okay, I'll just wave my magic wand and say the magic words and he'll go away... Hmmm, it doesn't seem to be working. Perhaps you

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 09:29:38 -0800, Ned Batchelder wrote: > I strongly recommend that you stay on Python 2, and focus on other > concerns. Nikos has been using Python 3.3 for his website for months now. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Using alpha software in production [was Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a]

2013-11-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Yes, this! A master craftsman knows when to break the rules. I personally > would not run a public web app using alpha software because I know my > limitations... +1. Plenty of people know that a master knows when to break the rules... the

Using alpha software in production [was Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a]

2013-11-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:27:58 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Denis McMahon > wrote: >> Nobody is so stupid as to run alpha software on a production server[1] >> are they? >> >> [1] In this context, "production server" means any system facing the >> public interne

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:17:22 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > >> root@secure [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# python3 -V Python 3.4.0a4 > > Let me just check. > > Nobody is so stupid as to run alpha software on a production server[1] > are they? > >

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 14/11/2013 00:57, Ned Batchelder wrote: On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:32:49 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: Wrong. You've once again not bothered to read the information that's been handed to you on a plate. If you'd followed the instructions you would not get the "No such file or direct

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Denis McMahon
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:17:22 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > root@secure [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# python3 -V Python 3.4.0a4 Let me just check. Nobody is so stupid as to run alpha software on a production server[1] are they? [1] In this context, "production server" means any system facing the

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Batchelder
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:32:49 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Wrong. You've once again not bothered to read the information that's > been handed to you on a plate. If you'd followed the instructions you > would not get the "No such file or directory" error shown above. I'm > not go

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Johannes Findeisen
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 00:00:04 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Στις 13/11/2013 11:56 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: > > But i have gone to the link and did what it said and it didn't proved > usefull thats why i re-ask. Try looking for a package named "setuptools". I think that is the package you

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 13/11/2013 22:00, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 11:56 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: On 13/11/2013 21:39, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 11:30 μμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpo

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 11:56 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: On 13/11/2013 21:39, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 11:30 μμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε:> Get ez_setup.py and

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 13/11/2013 21:39, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 11:30 μμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε:> Get ez_setup.py and get-pip.py, and run them with the desired Python.

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Ned Batchelder έγραψε: On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:39:59 PM UTC-5, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 11:30 μμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 11:30 μμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε:> Get ez_setup.py and get-pip.py, and run them with the desired Python. Why can't i just use that? root@secure [~]

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Batchelder
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:39:59 PM UTC-5, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Στις 13/11/2013 11:30 μμ, ο/η Johannes Findeisen έγραψε: > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 > > Ferrous Cranus wrote: > > > >> Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε:> > >>> Get ez_setup.py and get-p

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Johannes Findeisen
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:19:53 +0200 Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε:> > > Get ez_setup.py and get-pip.py, and run them with the desired Python. > > > > > Why can't i just use that? > > root@secure [~]# sudo yum install python-pip > Loaded plug

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 7:45 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Στις 13/11/2013 6:13 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: and also is there a way to call it like #!/usr/bin/python Of course there is, but only if you wish to break your system

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Στις 13/11/2013 6:13 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: > > >>> and also is there a way to call it like #!/usr/bin/python >> >> >> Of course there is, but only if you wish to break your system. The OS >> will be expecting /usr/bin/python to be

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Batchelder
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:38:53 AM UTC-5, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Στις 13/11/2013 6:13 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: > > >> and also is there a way to call it like #!/usr/bin/python > > > > Of course there is, but only if you wish to break your system. The OS > > will be expecting /usr/

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 6:13 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: and also is there a way to call it like #!/usr/bin/python Of course there is, but only if you wish to break your system. The OS will be expecting /usr/bin/python to be Python 2. Leave it be. Okey i will leave it be although i dislike the i

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:17:22 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > $ mkdir temp > $ cd temp > $ wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4/Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ tar > -xjvf Python-3.4.tar.bz2 > $ cd Python-3.3.2 > $ ./configure > $ make && make test > $ su > # make install > # exit > $ $ cd ../ && rm -rf P

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:26:37 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > root@secure [~]# which python3 > /usr/local/bin/python3 > root@secure [~]# where pyhton3 > -bash: where: command not found That just means that you don't have the "where" command installed. Oh well, if it's not installed you can't use i

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 4:23 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: $ mkdir temp $ cd temp $ wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4/Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ tar -xjvf Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ cd Python-3.3.2 $ ./configure $ make && make test $ su # ma

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 4:23 μμ, ο/η Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick έγραψε: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: $ mkdir temp $ cd temp $ wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4/Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ tar -xjvf Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ cd Python-3.3.2 $ ./configure $ make && make test $ su # ma

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
Στις 13/11/2013 4:17 μμ, ο/η Ferrous Cranus έγραψε: $ mkdir temp $ cd temp $ wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4/Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ tar -xjvf Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ cd Python-3.3.2 $ ./configure $ make && make test $ su # make install # exit $ $ cd ../ && rm -rf Python-3.4 root@secure [/h

Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > $ mkdir temp > $ cd temp > $ wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4/Python-3.4.tar.bz2 > $ tar -xjvf Python-3.4.tar.bz2 > $ cd Python-3.3.2 > $ ./configure > $ make && make test > $ su > # make install > # exit > $ $ cd ../ && rm -rf Pyth

Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

2013-11-13 Thread Ferrous Cranus
$ mkdir temp $ cd temp $ wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4/Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ tar -xjvf Python-3.4.tar.bz2 $ cd Python-3.3.2 $ ./configure $ make && make test $ su # make install # exit $ $ cd ../ && rm -rf Python-3.4 root@secure [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# python3 -V Python 3.4.0a4 c