On 28/06/17 03:46, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
All of this is irrelevant if beginners don't read the error message.
"if".
End-users
don't read error messages, no matter how well written they are,
Reference?
and every word
you add probably cuts the number of people reading it by half.
"probabl
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:51:17 +0200, Adriaan Renting wrote:
> it would be nice if it was specific enough that if you put it in a
> search engine you get relevant results explaining things.
You mean like this?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=SyntaxError%3A+Missing+parentheses+in+call+to+%27print%27
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> I think that there are broadly two sets of newbies in the world:
>
> - those who will read the message, and be able to resolve the problem from the
> current wording ("oh, it needs parentheses, like a function");
>
> - and those who won't,
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 05:38 am, Erik wrote:
[...]
> So I don't understand the resistance to making the error be a bit more
> explicit about why it is being generated to help those users - it
> doesn't explain (the obvious reason) _why_ their tutorial/example gives
> them an error when it doesn't to
On 27/06/17 15:05, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:34 am, Erik wrote about the print function error message:
To be fair, this already seems to be a special case:
[...]
>>> len "bar"
File "", line 1
len "bar"
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Correct, the pr
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:34 am, Erik wrote about the print function error
> message:
>
> py> print x
> File "", line 1
> print x
> ^
> SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'
[snip]
>> I think the suggestion abov
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:34 am, Erik wrote about the print function error message:
py> print x
File "", line 1
print x
^
SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'
> To be fair, this already seems to be a special case:
[...]
> >>> len "bar"
>File "", line 1
> len
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 03:00 am, mm0fmf wrote:
> Sorry to victim blame but why can't people copy the error message into a
> search engine, such as Google, and see what the problem is themselves?
You're not victim blaming. There's no *victim* here, syntax errors are a part of
programming and one has
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:21 am, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Erik writes:Using 'print' as a
>>statement is obsolete syntax in Python 3.
>
> »print« never was a statement.
Of course it could be a statement, just like "y = x + 1" is a statement.
> »print« was a keyword (2.7.6 2.3.1).
It can b
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 10:11:46 PM UTC+5:30, rurpy wrote:
> How about:
«suggested error message»
> Or better than changing the message, how about leaving it alone and
> simply responding helpfully…
Since everyone seems to only have read the first suggestion from rurpy, let me
ask, paraphra
On 27/06/17 00:21, Stefan Ram wrote:
Erik writes:Using 'print' as a
statement is obsolete syntax in Python 3.
»print« never was a statement.
»print« was a keyword (2.7.6 2.3.1).
*sigh* Whatever.
You have completely ignored my point (that perhaps the message could be
a little
On 26/06/17 18:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Rurpy via Python-list
wrote:
How about:
In Python 2, 'print' was a statement and did not require
parenthesis around its argument. In Python 3 'print' has
been changed to a function and now, like all functions,
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Wildman via Python-list
wrote:
> Here it is...
>
> http://www.pythonforbeginners.com/code-snippets-source-code/date-and-time-script/
Since it's not world-editable, I've posted a comment. But nobody ever
reads those :|
I strongly recommend learning Python from a c
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 03:31:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ben S. via Python-list
> wrote:
>> I installed Python v3.6.1 on win 7. Afterwards I tried to execute the
>> following simple python script from webpage
>> http://www.pythonforbeginners.com/code-s...me-s
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ben S. via Python-list
wrote:
> I installed Python v3.6.1 on win 7. Afterwards I tried to execute the
> following simple python script from webpage
> http://www.pythonforbeginners.com/code-s...me-script/:
Can you provide the complete link please? Something seems
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Rurpy via Python-list
wrote:
> How about:
>
> In Python 2, 'print' was a statement and did not require
> parenthesis around its argument. In Python 3 'print' has
> been changed to a function and now, like all functions,
> requires parenthesis around its ar
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Rurpy via Python-list
wrote:
> In Python 2, 'print' was a statement and did not require
> parenthesis around its argument. In Python 3 'print' has
> been changed to a function
I'm not sure that at this point Python 3's error messages should be
polluted with
On 26/06/2017 17:41, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 06/26/2017 09:42 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 01:16 am, Ben S. wrote:
print mm + "/" + dd + "/" + + " " + hour + ":" + mi + ":" + ss
^
SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'
Whats wrong?
Did you read the error
On 06/26/2017 09:42 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 01:16 am, Ben S. wrote:
>
>> print mm + "/" + dd + "/" + + " " + hour + ":" + mi + ":" + ss
>> ^
>> SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'
>>
>> Whats wrong?
>
> Did you read the error message?
>
> Missing
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 01:16 am, Ben S. wrote:
> print mm + "/" + dd + "/" + + " " + hour + ":" + mi + ":" + ss
> ^
> SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'
>
> Whats wrong?
Did you read the error message?
Missing parentheses in call to 'print'
Is the message not clear enoug
Sorry for this newbie question:
I installed Python v3.6.1 on win 7. Afterwards I tried to execute the following
simple python script from webpage
http://www.pythonforbeginners.com/code-s...me-script/:
Python Code:
from datetime import datetime
now = datetime.now()
mm = str(now.month)
dd = st
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