On Jan 1, 5:24 pm, Alexander Kapps wrote:
> Uh oh, should I really send this? ... Yes. Yes, I should! Sorry, I
> cannot resists.
>
> >>> allow everyone to do "import girlfriend"
> > I'm betting on a joke, like antigravity only significantly less
> > funny and more sexist.
>
> Absolutely not funny.
On Jan 3, 8:37 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
> > It objectifies women. If you can't see how that's harmful to women, I
> > haven't the stamina to educate you.
>
> And "import pickle" objectifies pickles. It's deplorable how few
> gherkins become
On Jan 3, 8:42 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
> > On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:54:09 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > It objectifies women.
>
> > So you claim.
>
> I'm sure you have a hundred ready rationalisations for why a joke that
> has “girlfriend” as a fungible object, together wit
On Tuesday 2012 January 03 17:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Besides, I find it hard to believe that the search facilities on PyPI are
> so bad that there would be any searches that come up with "girlfriend.py"
> or "car.py" as false positives.
Try an author search for D'Aprano.
--
I have seen the
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:48:36 +, PiLS wrote:
> If I nuke a Karmic Koala, will they rat me out to the WWF, to the
> UNODA, or to both?
Personally I'd be cheering for you, provided you also took out all the
warthogs, hedgehogs, badgers, drakes, efts, fawns, gibbons, herons,
ibexes, jackalopes,
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:48 AM, PiLS wrote:
> If I nuke a Karmic Koala, will they rat me out to the WWF, to
> the UNODA, or to both?
Neither, actually. We'll be so glad you didn't call it a Karmic Koala
Bear that we'll send you three American tourists for free. (They're
actually quite delicious w
On 4 January 2012 20:08, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Tony Pelletier
> wrote:
>> I have zero desire to follow the rules of a Python(here's the ironic part.
>> Get it now clever boy?) list when it'd riddled with childish banter that has
>> nothing to do with wait for
Le mar, 03 jan 2012 20:28:59, Steven D'Aprano a ploppé:
> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:08:47 -0800, Ethan Furman wrote:
>
> [...]
>>> "maybe policing uploads is worse than cluttering PyPI's disk space and
>>> RSS feed with dumb 1 KB packages." (Matt Chaput)
>>>
>>> I'd drop the "maybe".
>>
>> It's har
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Tony Pelletier
wrote:
> I have zero desire to follow the rules of a Python(here's the ironic part.
> Get it now clever boy?) list when it'd riddled with childish banter that has
> nothing to do with wait for it. Python?
Fair enough.
I have zero desire to follow the rules of a Python(here's the ironic part.
Get it now clever boy?) list when it'd riddled with childish banter that
has nothing to do with wait for it. Python?
Do I need to explain it any further?
I'm done with you and this list tha
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Tony Pelletier
wrote:
> That's a rather ironic comment. Idiot.
Really? Which part was ironic?
>> Sorry, this list does not exist for your personal entertainment.
Not this one, that's just a statement of fact.
>> Maybe you should try YouTube.
Kinda. What I r
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Tony Pelletier wrote:
> Honestly, is this list really what this is all about? I'm bored already...
Sorry, this list does not exist for your personal entertainment.
Maybe you should try YouTube.
And no, it's not really about sexism either, but there is no harm in
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 02:42, Ben Finney wrote:
> I'm sure you have a hundred ready rationalisations for why a joke that
> has “girlfriend” as a fungible object, together with “car” and “house”
> as things to mechanically import into one's life, is somehow not
> objectifying women.
>
> But, while
Honestly, is this list really what this is all about? I'm bored already...
Enough?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
> > On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:54:09 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > It objectifies women.
> >
> > So you claim.
>
> I'm sure you have a h
Ben Finney wrote:
I have no idea what it would take to persuade you in particular. I do
know that the combined privileges of being white, male, not-poor, and
English-fluent (and many more privileges, I'm sure) grant both of us the
luxury of barely even perceiving the harm done by a pervasive atmo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Dan Sommers wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:37:24 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> And "import pickle" objectifies pickles ...
>
> Not quite: "import pickle" merely readies the machinery that objectifies
> pickles. In order to objectify a pickle, you have to call
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:37:24 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> And "import pickle" objectifies pickles ...
Not quite: "import pickle" merely readies the machinery that objectifies
pickles. In order to objectify a pickle, you have to call pickle.loads:
>>> import pickle # get ready to objectify
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:54:09 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > It objectifies women.
>
> So you claim.
I'm sure you have a hundred ready rationalisations for why a joke that
has “girlfriend” as a fungible object, together with “car” and “house”
as things to mechanically impo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> It objectifies women. If you can't see how that's harmful to women, I
> haven't the stamina to educate you.
And "import pickle" objectifies pickles. It's deplorable how few
gherkins become programmers, and I think it's because of these
immature
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:54:09 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
[...]
>> You're making an assumption there that I don't accept. There is no
>> evidence that it is harmful to *anyone*, men or women.
>
> It objectifies women.
So you claim.
> If you can't see how that's harmful to
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:57:59 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Steven D'Aprano writes:
> >
> >> The joke cuts both ways.
> >
> > The fallacy is to ignore the fact that the playing field is not
> > level.
>
> I'm not ignoring the fact of an unequal playing field. (The pla
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:57:59 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
>> The joke cuts both ways.
>
> This is the Just World fallacy: you're implying that, because the same
> joke can be applied equally well to women or men, that therefore it is
> equally harmful. The fallacy is to
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:08:47 -0800, Ethan Furman wrote:
[...]
>> "maybe policing uploads is worse than cluttering PyPI's disk space and
>> RSS feed with dumb 1 KB packages." (Matt Chaput)
>>
>> I'd drop the "maybe".
>
> It's hard enough finding what one wants without having to wade through
> cra
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes:
> If you want more women in IT go to a local school and show the girls
> things they can do with a computer that they find fun and interesting.
> If you have a daughter try more Lego and less Barbies.
I have no objection to doing those things *as well as* re
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> The joke cuts both ways.
This is the Just World fallacy: you're implying that, because the same
joke can be applied equally well to women or men, that therefore it is
equally harmful. The fallacy is to ignore the fact that the playing
field is not level.
Yes, that same
Peter Otten wrote:
Lie Ryan wrote:
On 01/02/2012 11:20 PM, Peter Otten wrote:
Felinx Lee wrote:
I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI forever,
I apologize for that.
The thought police has won :(
I think the community has a right to defend themselves against trolls
Ben Finney wrote:
> The next time someone asks why the ratio of women becoming programmers
> is disproportionately low, please recall episodes where men here give
> defenses of jokes that objectify women.
What's that? The butterfly effect of diversity?
If you want more women in IT go to a local
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:59:53 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Devin Jeanpierre writes:
>
>> > Nonsense. Felinx is free to make sexist jokes, and others are free to
>> > howl him down when he does so. PyPI has no obligation to be a
>> > platform to amplify anyone's prejudice.
>>
>> A module named "girl
Lie Ryan wrote:
> On 01/02/2012 11:20 PM, Peter Otten wrote:
>> Felinx Lee wrote:
>>
>>> I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI forever,
>>> I apologize for that.
>>
>> The thought police has won :(
>
> I think the community has a right to defend themselves against trolls
> Because that's something that no one desires, nor is it the logical
> conclusion of anything that anyone has expressed here. Please don't invent
> strawmen.
You're right, sorry. I let myself say something dumb. I'll try not to
do it again.
-- Devin
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Robert Kern
On 1/2/12 8:56 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
But, hey, inertia. As long as we're trying to make this dude get rid
of the offensive part, might as well get rid of the rest too. Why not
make him get rid of everything he's written, too?
Because that's something that no one desires, nor is it the lo
Devin Jeanpierre writes:
> > Nonsense. Felinx is free to make sexist jokes, and others are free
> > to howl him down when he does so. PyPI has no obligation to be a
> > platform to amplify anyone's prejudice.
>
> A module named "girlfriend" won't amplify anyone's prejudice. It is,
> at that point
> Nonsense. Felinx is free to make sexist jokes, and others are free to
> howl him down when he does so. PyPI has no obligation to be a platform
> to amplify anyone's prejudice.
A module named "girlfriend" won't amplify anyone's prejudice. It is,
at that point, just a joke. The punchline is "impor
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes:
> Felinx Lee wrote:
>
> > I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI
> > forever, I apologize for that.
>
> The thought police has won :(
Nonsense. Felinx is free to make sexist jokes, and others are free to
howl him down when he does so
On 01/02/2012 11:20 PM, Peter Otten wrote:
Felinx Lee wrote:
I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI forever, I
apologize for that.
The thought police has won :(
I think the community has a right to defend themselves against trolls.
If it's just bad naming, we can p
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> Felinx Lee wrote:
>
>> I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI forever, I
>> apologize for that.
>
> The thought police has won :(
There's nothing wrong with cracking jokes, but sometimes a large
centr
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 02:52:06 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
>> Perhaps I'm just slow, but what is sexist about this package? Do you even
>> know what the package does?
>
>The dependencies are "car", "house", and "money" (and "workhard", of
>course). The joke being that women only care about how we
Hi,
On 2012-01-02 11:03:25 +, Felinx Lee said:
> I am the author of girlfriend module, a serious Python programmer.
> This project is nothing about sexist or racism,
> it is just a joke, a famous joke in China, please be cool down.
Yeah, quite funny. Why not put this on an own web server?
>
Felinx Lee wrote:
> I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI forever, I
> apologize for that.
The thought police has won :(
--
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I have removed those packages (girlfriend and others) from PyPI forever, I
apologize for that.
--
Felinx Lee
--
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On 02/01/2012 11:03, Felinx Lee wrote:
The girlfriend module just depends on workhard module now.
I will remove girlfriend module forever if you still think it is a spam
or illegal.
What is the point of these packages? Why do they exist?
Chris
--
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Hi,
On 2012-01-02 11:03:25 +, Felinx Lee said:
I am the author of girlfriend module, a serious Python programmer.
This project is nothing about sexist or racism,
it is just a joke, a famous joke in China, please be cool down.
Yeah, quite funny. Why not put this on an own web server?
An
Hi guys,
I am the author of girlfriend module, a serious Python programmer.
This project is nothing about sexist or racism,
it is just a joke, a famous joke in China, please be cool down.
And now, I have removed money, car, house packages from PyPi,
and remove their dependences in girlfriend modu
> Perhaps I'm just slow, but what is sexist about this package? Do you even
> know what the package does?
The dependencies are "car", "house", and "money" (and "workhard", of
course). The joke being that women only care about how wealthy you
are.
If it's just about naming a package "girlfriend",
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:12:28 +1100, Lie Ryan wrote:
> Legitimate python programmer or not, that does not legitimize spamming
> PyPI.
I don't see that half a dozen trivial (pointless) modules should be
classified as spam.
Personally, I've looked at the modules, and if I were the author, I'd be
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:24:48 +0100, Alexander Kapps wrote:
> Uh oh, should I really send this? ... Yes. Yes, I should! Sorry, I
> cannot resists.
>
allow everyone to do "import girlfriend"
>
>> I'm betting on a joke, like antigravity only significantly less funny
>> and more sexist.
>
> Ab
Ben Finney writes:
> Alexander Kapps writes:
>
> > Absolutely not funny. I hope that someday people will understand
> > that sexism is just another form of racism.
>
> That's not right. Racism and sexism are not forms of each other.
>
> Instead, racism and sexism are both forms of bigotry.
Hmm,
Alexander Kapps writes:
> Absolutely not funny. I hope that someday people will understand that
> sexism is just another form of racism.
That's not right. Racism and sexism are not forms of each other.
Instead, racism and sexism are both forms of bigotry.
And yes, I agree that the packages at
Sorry, I lied. It's been a while and I misremembered. The package
mentioned in the blog post was removed of the author's free will, and
PyPI doesn't police submissions.
-- Devin
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
>> Absolutely not funny. I hope that someday people will under
On 01/02/2012 09:33 AM, Robert Kern wrote:
On 1/1/12 10:18 PM, Matt Chaput wrote:
Someone seems to be spamming PyPI by uploading multiple stupid
packages. Not sure if it's some form of advertising spam or just idiocy.
Don't know if we should care though... maybe policing uploads is worse
than c
> Absolutely not funny. I hope that someday people will understand that sexism
> is just another form of racism.
One can understand that sexism is a terrible thing, and at the same
time make sexist jokes.
> Felinx Lee: Do apologize and rename your package/module or I'm going to make
> a racist co
Uh oh, should I really send this? ... Yes. Yes, I should! Sorry, I
cannot resists.
allow everyone to do "import girlfriend"
I'm betting on a joke, like antigravity only significantly less
funny and more sexist.
Absolutely not funny. I hope that someday people will understand
that sexism i
On 1/1/12 10:18 PM, Matt Chaput wrote:
Someone seems to be spamming PyPI by uploading multiple stupid packages. Not
sure if it's some form of advertising spam or just idiocy.
Don't know if we should care though... maybe policing uploads is worse than
cluttering PyPI's disk space and RSS feed w
Someone seems to be spamming PyPI by uploading multiple stupid packages. Not
sure if it's some form of advertising spam or just idiocy.
Don't know if we should care though... maybe policing uploads is worse than
cluttering PyPI's disk space and RSS feed with dumb 1 KB packages.
> girlfriend 1.0
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