Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-27 Thread Aahz
In article , Emile van Sebille wrote: >On 2/24/2010 1:52 PM Arnaud Delobelle said... >> a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >>> >>> That seems to miss the point to some extent. If I post my recipe for >>> spinach lasagne here, is that spam? >> >> Are they really good? Sounds good, spinach lasag

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-27 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 2/24/2010 1:52 PM Arnaud Delobelle said... a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: That seems to miss the point to some extent. If I post my recipe for spinach lasagne here, is that spam? Are they really good? Sounds good, spinach lasagne, I don't know a recipe for them. Maybe you could post

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-25 Thread BJ Swope
> > If you like, but I tend to interpret "meta-" as idempotent. It's easier on > my aspirin budget. > > -- > Robert Kern And here I thought it was little blue pills for idempotentcy... Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate. -- brazzy Auburn fans are like slinkys

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-25 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (That last response is aimed at a generic You, not Ben specifically. > Stupid English language, why can't we have a word for generic you?) I thought the word was "one". -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Steve Holden
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:39:08 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > >> Spam is better defined as unsolicited bulk messaging. Whether it's >> commercial in nature is irrelevant. The content is relevant only in that >> it's unsolicited by the vast majority of its many recipients. > > N

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:39:08 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Spam is better defined as unsolicited bulk messaging. Whether it's > > commercial in nature is irrelevant. The content is relevant only in > > that it's unsolicited by the vast majority of its many recipients. >

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:39:08 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Spam is better defined as unsolicited bulk messaging. Whether it's > commercial in nature is irrelevant. The content is relevant only in that > it's unsolicited by the vast majority of its many recipients. Not quite. I've read tens of thous

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Aahz
In article <874ol65ep8@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, >> Ben Finney wrote: >>> >>>Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its distribution >>>(to many people, e.g. via a forum like this on

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-02-24 18:39 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Steve Holden writes: Spam is, at least from my point of view, UCE: unsolicited commercial e-mail. So anything that isn't commercial (like those "send these to ten of your friends" emails) isn't spam (but it might just as well be). That excludes thing

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Ben Finney
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: > >Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its distribution > >(to many people, e.g. via a forum like this one) and its content > >(off-topic and unsolicited). […] > Moreover, by

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Ben Finney
Steve Holden writes: > Spam is, at least from my point of view, UCE: unsolicited commercial > e-mail. So anything that isn't commercial (like those "send these to > ten of your friends" emails) isn't spam (but it might just as well > be). That excludes things like the religious screeds, or any o

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-02-24 17:01 PM, Aahz wrote: In article, Steve Holden wrote: Spam is, at least from my point of view, UCE: unsolicited commercial e-mail. So anything that isn't commercial (like those "send these to ten of your friends" emails) isn't spam (but it might just as well be). That's roughl

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Steve Holden
Neil Hodgson wrote: > Steve Holden: > >> Spam is, at least from my point of view, UCE: unsolicited commercial >> e-mail. > >Spam is more commonly defined as UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email) of > which UCE is a large subset. Its just as much spam if its pushing a > political party or charity even

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Neil Hodgson
Steve Holden: > Spam is, at least from my point of view, UCE: unsolicited commercial > e-mail. Spam is more commonly defined as UBE (Unsolicited Bulk Email) of which UCE is a large subset. Its just as much spam if its pushing a political party or charity even though there may be no commercial

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Aahz
In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> >> Joan Miller is a regular poster; this is off-topic, but it's not spam. > >Non sequitur. Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its >distribution (to many people, e.g. via a foru

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Aahz
In article , Steve Holden wrote: >Aahz wrote: >> In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, >> Ben Finney wrote: >>> a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: Joan Miller is a regular poster; this is off-topic, but it's not spam. >>> >>> Non sequitur. Spam is spam, not by who authors or p

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: >>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >>> >>> Joan Miller is a regular poster; this is off-topic, but it's not spam. >> >>Non sequitur. Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Steve Holden
Aahz wrote: > In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: >> a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >>> Joan Miller is a regular poster; this is off-topic, but it's not spam. >> Non sequitur. Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its >> distribution (to many peopl

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-24 Thread Aahz
In article <87sk8r5v2f@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> >> Joan Miller is a regular poster; this is off-topic, but it's not spam. > >Non sequitur. Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its >distribution (to many people, e.g. via a foru

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-24 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-02-23 22:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-02-24, Robert Kern wrote: comp.lang.python.spam_prevention_discussion Which doesn't exist and never will. Sorry, but meta-discussions about the group are typically on-topic for all groups with some few exceptions (e.g. non-discussion, bin

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-02-24, Robert Kern wrote: >> comp.lang.python.spam_prevention_discussion > > Which doesn't exist and never will. Sorry, but > meta-discussions about the group are typically on-topic for > all groups with some few exceptions (e.g. non-discussion, > binary-only groups with associated .d gr

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-02-23 20:22 , Lie Ryan wrote: On 02/24/10 12:38, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:06:09 +0100, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: Hmm. I wonder if all the spam is coming from the NG side. I'll have to look at that. One of the reasons that I stopped reading UseNet over ten years a

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Lie Ryan
On 02/24/10 12:38, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:06:09 +0100, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >>> Hmm. I wonder if all the spam is coming from the NG side. I'll have >>> to look at that. One of the reasons that I stopped reading UseNet over >>> ten years ago was because of the dimi

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:06:09 +0100, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >> Hmm. I wonder if all the spam is coming from the NG side. I'll have >> to look at that. One of the reasons that I stopped reading UseNet over >> ten years ago was because of the diminishinig S/N ratio. I have always >> felt that i

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Lie Ryan
On 02/24/10 11:21, Aahz wrote: > In article , > D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) >> Joan Miller wrote: >>> >>> *Sorry by this message off topic, but this is too important* >> >> Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically >> increased in the

Re: Spam from gmail

2010-02-23 Thread Ben Finney
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > Joan Miller is a regular poster; this is off-topic, but it's not spam. Non sequitur. Spam is spam, not by who authors or posts it, but by its distribution (to many people, e.g. via a forum like this one) and its content (off-topic and unsolicited). The messa

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Aahz
In article , D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: >On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) >Joan Miller wrote: >> >> *Sorry by this message off topic, but this is too important* > >Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically >increased in the last week? Anyone else considering blocking a

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Ned Deily
In article <20100223182923.4d259d12.da...@druid.net>, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" wrote: > And just to bring this back on topic, I did do a test and found that > splitting my mailbox between Python mailing list messages and Python > newsgroup messages did not indicate that that was a good barometer of > s

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Chris Colbert
this image is appropriate: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pS7sKjlzwFg/SwhG1S901pI/Eiw/XSm93RIY2WE/s400/kelso-burn.jpg On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Daniel Fetchinson < fetchin...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically > >> >> increase

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:06:09 +0100 Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > And this has to do with python programming in what way? Are you new? Meta discussions about lists are generally considered on-topic for the list. > You, sir, are incredibly funny :) Yes, I am. That however is NOT on topic. :-) An

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>> >> Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically >> >> increased in the last week? Anyone else considering blocking all gmail >> >> posts to this list? >> > >> > I did that a long time ago for all of the Usenet groups I read >> > and all but one of the mailing lists I read. >>

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:31:12 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically > >> increased in the last week? Anyone else considering blocking all gmail > >> posts to this list? > > > > I did that a long time ago for all of the Usenet groups I

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-02-23, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-02-23, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) >> Joan Miller wrote: >>> *Sorry by this message off topic, but this is too important* >> >> Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically >> increased in th

Re: Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-02-23, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) > Joan Miller wrote: >> *Sorry by this message off topic, but this is too important* > > Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically > increased in the last week? Anyone else considering blockin

Spam from gmail (Was: fascism)

2010-02-23 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:54:25 -0800 (PST) Joan Miller wrote: > *Sorry by this message off topic, but this is too important* Is it just me or has the spew from gmail on this list radically increased in the last week? Anyone else considering blocking all gmail posts to this list? -- D'Arcy J.M. C