Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-16 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I personally don't believe very strongly in this server-side >serialisation of various non-displayable formats for potentially large >amounts of client-side code to unpack, process, stuff into different >places, and so on. As

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-16 Thread Adrian Holovaty
bruno at modulix wrote: > Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax > support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework > doesn't provide anything by itself. Would you say the CGI module offers > support for templating, data persistance and Ajax as well ?-)

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-16 Thread Paul Boddie
bruno at modulix wrote: > Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax > support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework >doesn't provide anything by itself. I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I will agree that for the desired

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-16 Thread Paul Boddie
bruno at modulix wrote: > Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax > support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework >doesn't provide anything by itself. I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I will agree that for the desired

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-16 Thread Paul Boddie
bruno at modulix wrote: > Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax > support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework >doesn't provide anything by itself. I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I will agree that for the desired

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-16 Thread bruno at modulix
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > bruno at modulix wrote: > >>RoR is not an IDE, it's a web framework. The closest things in Python >>are TurboGears (good Ajax/js support via Mochikit), Subway (never >>tested), and Django (no Ajax support AFAIK). > > > Note that "no Ajax support" is misleading. Of course

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-15 Thread Xavier Morel
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > bruno at modulix wrote: >> RoR is not an IDE, it's a web framework. The closest things in Python >> are TurboGears (good Ajax/js support via Mochikit), Subway (never >> tested), and Django (no Ajax support AFAIK). > > Note that "no Ajax support" is misleading. Of course yo

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-15 Thread Dave Benjamin
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adrian Holovaty wrote: > bruno at modulix wrote: >> RoR is not an IDE, it's a web framework. The closest things in Python >> are TurboGears (good Ajax/js support via Mochikit), Subway (never >> tested), and Django (no Ajax support AFAIK). > > Note that "no Ajax support" is mi

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-15 Thread Adrian Holovaty
bruno at modulix wrote: > RoR is not an IDE, it's a web framework. The closest things in Python > are TurboGears (good Ajax/js support via Mochikit), Subway (never > tested), and Django (no Ajax support AFAIK). Note that "no Ajax support" is misleading. Of course you can use Ajax with Django, just

Re: RoR like (was : SPE 0.8.1.b Python IDE...)

2005-12-15 Thread bruno at modulix
Yechezkal Gutfreund wrote: > Are you familiar with any Python efforts that parrallel Ruby on Rails > (integrated Ajax compliant IDE?). "integrated" and "IDE" in the same sentence ? A bit redundant, isn't it ?-) RoR is not an IDE, it's a web framework. The closest things in Python are TurboGears (