Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>It also is free for personal use (up to 2 clients, 2 users) and open >>soruce projects can get free licenses. Or at least it was so the last I >>checked. > > For anything missi

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread François Pinard
[Aahz] > For anything mission-critical, I wouldn't want to rely on a free license. For anything mission-critical, I wouldn't want to rely on closed sources... Could the best be open source and non-free license? :-) -- François Pinard http://pinard.progiciels-bpi.ca -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Terry Reedy
"Aahz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>For what it is worth, the Python developers are discussing moving the >>Python codebase to subversion, though other options were discussed. The >>result

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Erik Max Francis
Aahz wrote: > For anything mission-critical, I wouldn't want to rely on a free license. If it's mission critical, in the worst case scenario you can just pay for a modest license. And, as I said, it's free for use for personal use -- no license is required, it just works. They can't force up

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread skip
>> For a python newsgroup, you are required to consider mercurial. It's >> not ready for production use yet, but is making rapid progress, ... aahz> Why do you say "required" when the next sentence you say it's not aahz> ready for production? I believe "consider" != "adopt". Di

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Jeffrey E. Forcier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thirding the Subversion/SVN suggestions. It's generally a newer, better >> CVS with some new features and a lot less of the negative featu

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >For a python newsgroup, you are required to consider mercurial. It's not >ready for production use yet, but is making rapid progress, and many >(including myself) are using it. Why do you say "required" when the next sente

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It also is free for personal use (up to 2 clients, 2 users) and open >soruce projects can get free licenses. Or at least it was so the last I >checked. For anything mission-critical, I wouldn't want to rely on a fre

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Neal Becker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was wondering if anyone could make recomendations/comments about CVS > systems, their experiences and what perhaps the strengths of each. > > Currently we have 2 developers but expect to grow to perhaps 5. > > Most of the developement is Python, but some C, Javascrip

RE: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Delaney, Timothy (Tim)
Roy Smith wrote: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, the only thing that subversion does that I'd call bad is leave >> turds in my development directory. I'm tired of having to tell >> commands to ignore .svn files. Of course, Perforce is the only source >> control system I know of th

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Terry Reedy
"Jeffrey E. Forcier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thirding the Subversion/SVN suggestions. It's generally a newer, better > CVS with some new features and a lot less of the negative features/lack > thereof, of the older system. For what it is worth, the Python de

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Roy Smith
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the only thing that subversion does that I'd call bad is leave > turds in my development directory. I'm tired of having to tell > commands to ignore .svn files. Of course, Perforce is the only source > control system I know of that doesn't do this. My

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Roy Smith
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My current client uses subversion, and I generally wind up cursing at it > at least once a day. What makes you curse at it? I've never actually used it, just been watching the project for several years. I'd be interested to hear your experiences. -- ht

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Jeff Schwab
Mike Meyer wrote: > Well, the only thing that subversion does that I'd call bad is leave > turds in my development directory. I'm tired of having to tell > commands to ignore .svn files. Of course, Perforce is the only source > control system I know of that doesn't do this. ClearCase is really goo

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > [Mike Meyer] > > > [...] I generally wind up cursing at [subversion] at least once a day. > Would you accept elaborating a bit on the motivations of the cursing? > Your message says Perforce does nice things, one might fuzzily im

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread François Pinard
[Mike Meyer] > [...] I generally wind up cursing at [subversion] at least once a day. Would you accept elaborating a bit on the motivations of the cursing? Your message says Perforce does nice things, one might fuzzily imply that Subversion is bad or misbehaves on the same, but I do not read any

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
Mike Meyer wrote: > Perforce. it costs money, but it's worth it. My current client uses > subversion, and I generally wind up cursing at it at least once a > day. Perforce is much smarter about merges and dealing with > branches. Also, if you like using Unix tools to do things like search > your s

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I was wondering if anyone could make recomendations/comments about CVS > systems, their experiences and what perhaps the strengths of each. Perforce. it costs money, but it's worth it. My current client uses subversion, and I generally wind up cursing at it at least on

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread jussij
> I was wondering if anyone could make recomendations/comments > about CVS systems Amoung other things the Zeus for Windows programmer's editor/IDE comes with integrated CVS support: http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html > Most of the developement is Python, but some C, Javascript, > HTML, e

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Jeffrey E. Forcier
Thirding the Subversion/SVN suggestions. It's generally a newer, better CVS with some new features and a lot less of the negative features/lack thereof, of the older system. If any of your team has CVS experience they should have no real problem with the switch, and anyone without prior version co

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Jorge Godoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The IDE what have been using/experimenting with are drPython and > eclipse with PyDev. Eclipse has a fine integration with both CVS and Subversion. If you'll be having a lot of images and binary objects or you don't have the design right by the time you start coding, I

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Neil Benn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I was wondering if anyone could make recomendations/comments about CVS >systems, their experiences and what perhaps the strengths of each. > >Currently we have 2 developers but expect to grow to perhaps 5. > >Most of the developement is Python, but some C, Javascript, HTM

Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread geskerrett
I was wondering if anyone could make recomendations/comments about CVS systems, their experiences and what perhaps the strengths of each. Currently we have 2 developers but expect to grow to perhaps 5. Most of the developement is Python, but some C, Javascript, HTML, etc. The IDE what have been