Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-24 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 22 Mar 2024, at 20:28, Mats Wichmann via Python-list > wrote: > > pip is still a separate package in the .rpm world. which makes sense on a > couple of levels: Yes it’s a separate package, but it’s always installed. At least on Fedora. I agree it makes sense to package it separately, wh

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-22 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 3/22/24 11:45, Barry via Python-list wrote:  On 22 Mar 2024, at 15:25, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: Many if not most Linux distributions do not include pip by default. Really? It came with Manjaro. Debian and Ubuntu require you to install pip as a separate package. Also puts

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-22 Thread Barry via Python-list
 > On 22 Mar 2024, at 15:25, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list > wrote: > >> Many if not most Linux distributions do not include pip by default. > > Really? It came with Manjaro. Debian and Ubuntu require you to install pip as a separate package. Also puts venv in its own package. Fedora leaves

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-22 Thread Thomas Schweikle via Python-list
Am Do., 21.März.2024 um 18:58:26 schrieb Johanne Fairchild via Python-list: r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: Johanne Fairchild wrote or quoted: Why is a whl-package called a ``wheel''? Is it just a pronunciation for the extension WHL or is it really a name? PyPi in its ini

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-21 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 3/21/2024 4:19 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: On 2024-03-21, MRAB via Python-list wrote: As it's recommended to use the Python Launcher py on Windows, I use that instead: py -m pip install something because it gives better support if you have multiple versions of Python installe

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-21 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-03-21, MRAB via Python-list wrote: > As it's recommended to use the Python Launcher py on Windows, I use > that instead: > > py -m pip install something > > because it gives better support if you have multiple versions of > Python installed. I adopted that practice years ago on Linux as

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-21 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-03-21 11:36, Johanne Fairchild via Python-list wrote: Why is a whl-package called a ``wheel''? Is it just a pronunciation for the extension WHL or is it really a name? Also, it seems that when I install Python on Windows, it doesn't come with pip ready to run. I had to say python -

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-21 Thread Johanne Fairchild via Python-list
r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > Johanne Fairchild wrote or quoted: >>Why is a whl-package called a ``wheel''? Is it just a pronunciation for >>the extension WHL or is it really a name? > > PyPi in its initial state was named "cheese shop", as the famous > part in the show "Mon

Re: the name ``wheel''

2024-03-21 Thread Left Right via Python-list
I believe that the name "Wheel" was a reference to "reinventing the wheel". But I cannot find a quote to support this claim. I think the general sentiment was that it was the second attempt by the Python community to come up with a packaging format (first being Egg), and so they were reinventing th