Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-19 Thread lkcl
On May 18, 11:02 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/18/2011 5:24 AM, lkcl wrote: > > There seem to be two somewhat separate requirement issues: the > interpreter binary and the language version. yes. [with the startling possibility of compiling the entire pyjs compiler into javascript and executing

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/18/2011 9:42 AM, lkcl wrote: he's got a good point, terry. breaking backwards-compatibility was a completely mad and incomprehensible decision. I see that I should take everything you (or Harris) say with a big grain of salt;-). You just gave me a lecture about the impossibility of do

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/18/2011 5:24 AM, lkcl wrote: There seem to be two somewhat separate requirement issues: the interpreter binary and the language version. a) at the moment a http://python.org 2.N interpreter is required to actually run the translator. if you use http://python.org 2.5 or 2.6 you do not

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-18 Thread lkcl
On May 17, 5:38 pm, harrismh777 wrote: > is recompiled everything still works... not so in Python. The fact that > Python is free to morph gleely from PEP to PEP without responsibility or > accountability with the user base is what may kill Python, unless the > Python community gets a grip on thi

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-18 Thread lkcl
On May 18, 10:24 am, lkcl wrote: > > >   otherwise please - really: just saying "give me support for python > > > 3.x or else" is ... > > > And I did not say that. > >  yeah i know - i'm sorry: it just, with a little bit of "twisting", > could be construed as implying that. in case it wasn't cl

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-18 Thread lkcl
On May 18, 6:29 am, harrismh777 wrote: > Terry Reedy wrote: > > > No, because I think you are exaggerating.  That said, I think core > > Python is pretty close to 'complete' and I would not mind further syntax > > freezes like the one for 3.2. > > I am exaggerating only to the extent that someone

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-18 Thread lkcl
On May 18, 2:33 am, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/17/2011 12:07 PM, lkcl wrote: > > > On May 4, 7:37 pm, Terry Reedy  wrote: > >> On 5/4/2011 10:06 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > >>> pyjamasis a suite of projects, including a python-to-javascript > >>> compiler > >> As you well know, there

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-17 Thread alex23
harrismh777 wrote: > If there is another major jump like  2.x --> 3.x  in the future, Python > will die. I hope you guys are aware of this. The user base might accept > this thing once, but they're not going do it again... The differences between major version releases of Python are far, far less

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-17 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/17/2011 12:07 PM, lkcl wrote: On May 4, 7:37 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/4/2011 10:06 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: pyjamasis a suite of projects, including a python-to-javascript compiler As you well know, there is no such thing as 'python' when it comes to compiling actual

Re: pyjamas 0.8alpha1 release

2011-05-17 Thread lkcl
On May 4, 7:37 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/4/2011 10:06 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > after a long delay thepyjamasproject -http://pyjs.org- has begun the > > 0.8 series of releases, beginning with alpha1: > > >https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyjamas/files/pyjamas/0.8/ > > >pyja