Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-10 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Nov 10, 10:27 am, "Colin J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Driscoll wrote: > > On Nov 8, 1:35 pm, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > >> that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time >

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-10 Thread Colin J. Williams
Mike Driscoll wrote: On Nov 8, 1:35�pm, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one project to

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-10 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Nov 8, 1:35 pm, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time > during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one > project to make gui-buildin

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Phil Thompson
On 9 Nov 2008 19:08:35 GMT, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Phil Thompson wrote: > >>> Thay aren't claiming that Qt itself is governed by the GPL, what they >>> are claiming is that the 'Qt Open Source License' permits you to use it >>> for development of "Open Source software governed b

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread David Boddie
On Sunday 09 November 2008 20:08, Duncan Booth wrote: > So are the references to 'Qt Open Source License' on the website > misleading? It depends on whether you assume that there's a separate license by that name. In practice, it's a placeholder for the licenses it's available under: "The Open S

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread azrael
It would be rally great if wingIDE would have integrated controls for wxPython.This would be really great. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Duncan Booth
Phil Thompson wrote: >> Thay aren't claiming that Qt itself is governed by the GPL, what they >> are claiming is that the 'Qt Open Source License' permits you to use it >> for development of "Open Source software governed by the GNU General >> Public License versions 2 and 3". I believe they can m

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Terry Reedy
Ben Finney wrote: Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In effect this means that if you want to develop any commercial software with Qt you have to buy the license in advance (even if all you want is to knock together some proof-of-concept) and you are also permanently locked out from incl

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Phil Thompson
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:15:42 -0500, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Phil Thompson wrote: > >> >> The only "additional" restrictions are those imposed by the *commercial* >> license. As I said before, those restrictions are intended to discourage >> commercial developers from avoiding pa

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Kevin Walzer
Phil Thompson wrote: The only "additional" restrictions are those imposed by the *commercial* license. As I said before, those restrictions are intended to discourage commercial developers from avoiding paying license costs during their development phase. Is this interpretation of Qt's lice

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Phil Thompson
On 9 Nov 2008 14:40:22 GMT, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: > >>> It is a novel interpretation of the GPL. Qt Software have every >>> right to impose this sort of condition, but it makes me want to >>> avoid them. >> >> No, they have no such right to interpret the GPL t

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread David Boddie
On Sunday 09 November 2008 13:45, Ben Finney wrote: > Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mr.SpOOn wrote: >> > What's the problem with qt licence? >> >> "You must purchase a Qt Commercial License from Qt Software or from >> one of its authorized resellers before you start developing >>

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Duncan Booth
Ben Finney wrote: >> It is a novel interpretation of the GPL. Qt Software have every >> right to impose this sort of condition, but it makes me want to >> avoid them. > > No, they have no such right to interpret the GPL this way; it would be > entirely incompatible with the GPL since it would be a

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-11-09, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr.SpOOn wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Qt seems to be good, but I don't like their licence. >>> >> >> >> What's the problem with qt licence? > > I can't change a commercial a

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Lie
On Nov 9, 2:35 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time > during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one > project to make gui-buildin

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* azrael (Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:35:03 -0800 (PST)) > whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > that there is the best way to use WX. Don't ask. Think for yourself. wxPython is in my humble opinion the most popular but only the second best choice. > I am browsing for th

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Ben Finney
Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mr.SpOOn wrote: > > What's the problem with qt licence? > > "You must purchase a Qt Commercial License from Qt Software or from > one of its authorized resellers before you start developing > commercial software. The Commercial license does not allow the

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Phil Thompson
On 9 Nov 2008 10:46:53 GMT, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr.SpOOn wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Qt seems to be good, but I don't like their licence. >> >> >> What's the problem with qt licence? > > "You must purchase a Qt

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Stef Mientki
Mr.SpOOn wrote: On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Qt seems to be good, but I don't like their licence. What's the problem with qt licence? I can't change a commercial application into an open application and vice-versa. (And therefor I also

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Duncan Booth
Mr.SpOOn wrote: > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Qt seems to be good, but I don't like their licence. > > > What's the problem with qt licence? "You must purchase a Qt Commercial License from Qt Software or from one of its authorized resellers before y

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-09 Thread Mr . SpOOn
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qt seems to be good, but I don't like their licence. What's the problem with qt licence? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Decker
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:35 PM, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time > during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one > project to mak

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-08 Thread sturlamolden
On 8 Nov, 20:35, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am freaking out that I need 5 times more time to make a GUI in > python than in VB. I find wxFormBuilder nice to work with. wxPython can use XRC-files from wxFormBuilder. Note that wx uses sizers (layout managers). While it makes GUIs a bit

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-08 Thread Alex_Gaynor
On Nov 8, 6:29 pm, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > azrael wrote: > > whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > > that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time > > during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one >

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-08 Thread Stef Mientki
azrael wrote: whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one project to make gui-building easy as maybe in VB for python. Each I trie

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-08 Thread Zac256
I'ma huge fan of qt and pyqt. http://trolltech.com/products -Zac On Nov 8, 2008 11:35am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time during the last year and I ca