Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-24 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Xah Lee wrote: His usual clap trap. ___ /| /| | | ||__|| | Please do | / O O\__ NOT |

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-23 Thread Pascal Bourguignon
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As i've indicated in the Responsible Licensing article, that today's > software come with disclaimers that essentially say the producer is not > liable even if the software don't work at all. It will be hard to > change this zero responsibility stance to a 1

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-21 Thread robic0
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:05:59 GMT, Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:42:52 -0800, robic0 wrote, quoted or indirectly >quoted someone who said : > >>If the software opens a file and is in the middle of writing to it, >>then the user dumps the power to the machine and end

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-19 Thread Roedy Green
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:42:52 -0800, robic0 wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >If the software opens a file and is in the middle of writing to it, >then the user dumps the power to the machine and ends up having to >reformat, thereby losing all his data, at what point does the

Reliable software [was Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing]

2005-12-19 Thread Steven D'Aprano
robic0 wrote about software liabilities: > If the software opens a file and is in the middle of writing to it, > then the user dumps the power to the machine and ends up having to > reformat, thereby losing all his data, at what point does the > liability stop? And how is fault proven or dished o

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread robic0
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:47:29 +0100, "Martin P. Hellwig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Xah Lee wrote: > >Nice rant, btw in most EU countries the software creator can not >withdraw the responsibility of his/her/it creation, regardless of what >the disclaimer says. Pretty big damned statement there

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread robic0
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:27:58 +, Mark Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >robic0 wrote: > >> Xah, please admit to me that your under the influence of >> physocopic drugs! > >He could be schizophrenic. > >Seekers of all things wierd on the internet can do no better than Gene >Ray's Timecube:

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ulrich Hobelmann wrote: > > The piece that a European programmer can never withdraw responsibility > could be a big problem to open-source software, though. I'm not sure > I'd want to freely publish anything that could result in liability for me. > Not that big of a problem, in EU a user is s

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread Ulrich Hobelmann
Martin P. Hellwig wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > Nice rant, btw in most EU countries the software creator can not > withdraw the responsibility of his/her/it creation, regardless of what > the disclaimer says. The law is the leading authority and not some > Disclaimer/EULA, that's why most US EULA

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Xah Lee wrote: Nice rant, btw in most EU countries the software creator can not withdraw the responsibility of his/her/it creation, regardless of what the disclaimer says. The law is the leading authority and not some Disclaimer/EULA, that's why most US EULA's are unauthoritative in the EU. --

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread Eric J. Roode
robic0 wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On 16 Dec 2005 16:52:43 -0800, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Responsible Software Licensing >> I worship you, Xah. -- Eric `$=`;$_=\%!;($_)=/(.)/;$==++$|;($.,$/,$,,$\,$",$;,$^,$#,$~,$*,$:,@%)=( $!=~/(.)(.).(.)(.)(.)(.)..(.)(.)(.)..(.)..(

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Roedy Green wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:34:21 -0500, "Matt Garrish" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted > someone who said : > >>Please do us all the favour of taking a basic literacy course. You aren't >>even close half the time, which just confirms you're a halfwit. >

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread Roedy Green
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:34:21 -0500, "Matt Garrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Please do us all the favour of taking a basic literacy course. You aren't >even close half the time, which just confirms you're a halfwit. are you bawling out robico or X

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread Matt Garrish
wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 16 Dec 2005 16:52:43 -0800, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > physocopic drugs! > Please do us all the favour of taking a basic literacy course. You aren't even close half the time, which just confirms you're a halfwit. Matt -- http://mai

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread Mark Carter
robic0 wrote: > Xah, please admit to me that your under the influence of > physocopic drugs! He could be schizophrenic. Seekers of all things wierd on the internet can do no better than Gene Ray's Timecube: http://www.timecube.com/ His outpourings are so well known that he even gets a menti

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread robic0
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:55:10 +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >robic0 wrote: >> Xah Lee wrote: >>> >>> >> >> > >So, at last they found one another. :( Thanks for the coaching Gunnar !!! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
robic0 wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: >> >> > > So, at last they found one another. :( -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-17 Thread robic0
On 16 Dec 2005 16:52:43 -0800, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Responsible Software Licensing > >Xah Lee, 200307 > >Software is a interesting invention. Software has this interesting Soft, like your head >property, that it can be duplicated without cost, as if like copying it costs to dup, d

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-16 Thread Xah Lee
Responsible Software Licensing Xah Lee, 200307 Software is a interesting invention. Software has this interesting property, that it can be duplicated without cost, as if like copying money. Never in history are goods duplicable without cost. But with the invention of computer, the ephemeral non-p