Re: So far (about editing tools)

2005-10-06 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On Thursday 06 October 2005 15:45, Micah Elliott wrote: > On Oct 06, Kenneth McDonald wrote: > > The only _real_ problem is the eclipse learning curve. > > The only real *advantage* of Eclipse (over other suggested tools) is > its highly hyped automatic refactoring. Admittedly, I have not used > i

Re: So far (about editing tools)

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth McDonald
As I did mention in my original post, Eclipse is indeed bloated. However, in spite of that, I've found it both fast and reliable (much to surprise). The only real problem is learning what functionality (the majority) to ignore. PyDev offers nice integration with Python. If I run a python pro

Re: So far (about editing tools)

2005-10-06 Thread Paul Rubin
Micah Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Furthermore, Eclipse requires java and is thusly not provided on any > linux distro I'm familiar with, which I consider a huge roadblock. And > as mentioned, it's bloated. It comes with Fedora Core 4 and is compiled with gcj. > I would suspect that the

Re: So far (about editing tools)

2005-10-06 Thread Micah Elliott
On Oct 06, Kenneth McDonald wrote: > The only _real_ problem is the eclipse learning curve. The only real *advantage* of Eclipse (over other suggested tools) is its highly hyped automatic refactoring. Admittedly, I have not used it for Python development, but I'm skeptical of the feasibility of a

Re: So far (about editing tools)

2005-10-06 Thread Kenneth McDonald
This is something I fought with for a long time. My overwhelming vote is Eclipse with the PyDev plugin. (Google search should reveal this). Here are the pros and cons. 1) Eclipse is a _big_ system, with a strong emphasis on Java. So there's a lot of functionality you need to learn to ignore,

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread Jaime Wyant
On 10/6/05, Bell, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like pythonWin other than the white background where you write your > scripts, because after awhile it's bad on the eyes. Does anyone know of a > free IDE that will allow control of this, as well as the coloring of > keywords, etc? > xemac

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread Jaime Wyant
On 10/6/05, CppNewB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax > feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification. > Yes. We all love python, welcome aboard! > My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercia

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread bruno modulix
CppNewB wrote: > I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax > feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification. > > My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercial IDE Why "commercial" ? -- bruno desthuilliers python -c "print '@'.j

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread Michael Schneider
Take a look at: http://wingware.com/ It is only $35.00 for an IDE. (30 day free eval version) I use eclipse for java, and have become quite fond of tab completion. Mike CppNewB wrote: > I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax > feels very clean with an emp

RE: So far

2005-10-06 Thread Bell, Kevin
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christophe Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:50 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: So far CppNewB a écrit : > I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax > feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification. &

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread Christophe
CppNewB a écrit : > I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax > feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification. > > My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercial IDE > for the language. I've tried Komodo, etc and they are nice ap

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread Benji York
CppNewB wrote: > Most of them have support for Dialogs, but what about more complex > UI's? I may need a resizable frame within a resizable frame? I > haven''t found a GUI builder with a great feel yet. I *highly* recommend wxDesigner. I've used it extensively. It's cheap and has a demo versio

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread UrsusMaximus
Try PythonCard Ron Stephens Python Learning Center a prententious name for a nice hobbyist resource www.awaretek.com/plf.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: So far

2005-10-06 Thread UrsusMaximus
Try PythonCard Ron Stephens Python Learning Center a prententious name for a nice hobbyist resource www.awaretek.com/plf.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list