Re: python-forum

Thanks for the update and the invite don't mind if I do. cheers sachlar On 2 November 2012 08:26, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Sacha Rook wrote: > > Hi does anyone know where the python-form.org site has gone? > > Some googling suggests that it's under new managemen

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On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Sacha Rook wrote: > Hi does anyone know where the python-form.org site has gone? Some googling suggests that it's under new management: http://mcompute.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2161 But comp.lang.python/python-list is better anyway [ ;-) ], and you're already here

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > rantingrick wrote: >> >> I ate >> three fishes just sounds wrong to me. What's the plural of sheep >> Stephen :-D > > It's sheepses, isn't it? Am I missing something? Shyp. Pronounced the same way, just spelled differently. Geremy Condra --

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rantingrick wrote: I ate three fishes just sounds wrong to me. What's the plural of sheep Stephen :-D It's sheepses, isn't it? Am I missing something? -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Mark Young wrote: According to the Oxford Dictionary: *fish** noun **, **verb *noun *(**pl.**fish** or **fishes**)*Fish is the usual plural form. The older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of

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On Jun 8, 9:00 pm, Jack Diederich wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mark Young wrote: > > According to the Oxford Dictionary: > > > fish noun, verb noun (pl.fish or fishes)Fish is the usual plural form. The > > older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of fish... > > > Ho

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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mark Young wrote: > According to the Oxford Dictionary: > > fish noun, verb noun (pl.fish or fishes)Fish is the usual plural form. The > older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of fish... > > However, I would correct anyone that ever used "fishes

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According to the Oxford Dictionary: *fish** noun **, **verb *noun *(**pl.**fish** or **fishes**) *Fish is the usual plural form. The older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of fish... However, I wo

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rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 7, 12:41 am, Steven D'Aprano t...@cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> "Fish" can be either singular (as in "I fed the fish") or a collective >> noun ("there are many fish that live in salt water"). Plural is "fishes", >> as in "I ate three fishes", although in common use p

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On Jun 7, 12:41 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > "Fish" can be either singular (as in "I fed the fish") or a collective > noun ("there are many fish that live in salt water"). Plural is "fishes", > as in "I ate three fishes", although in common use people tend to use > fish/fishes as both plural and

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> However, it would be nice to have an expire function so that messages that I > don't read for a specified time simply disappear. Do any email clients do > that? I use Fastmail.fm as my email service (and browser based email client). Fastmail supports the ability to automatically delete message

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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:45:44 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:29:59 +1000, Ben Finney > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > >> claim to the word. The existing forums are still forums. >> > I favor "fora" I see your smiley, but the Oxford dict

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In article <87r5kj8zmk@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: > >So you say. For the interface to be "better" it needs to keep the good >features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of >Usenet: > > [...] You skipped over the crowning glories of Usenet: * Threaded mess

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"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000 > Lie Ryan wrote: > > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List > > vs Forum. The argument basically sums up to Distributed vs. > > Centralized. > > I don't know what Ben was thinking so I was just making

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"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:17:39 +1000 > Ben Finney wrote: > > So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good > > features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of > > Usenet: > > That's a great list of features. But they al

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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000 Lie Ryan wrote: > On 06/07/10 10:45, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > > That's a great list of features. But they all apply to mailing lists as > > well. > > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List vs > Forum. The argument basically sums u

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On 06/07/10 10:45, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:17:39 +1000 > Ben Finney wrote: >> So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good >> features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of >> Usenet: > > That's a great list of features.

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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:17:39 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good > features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of > Usenet: That's a great list of features. But they all apply to mailing lists as well. > * No

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rantingrick writes: > There has been many arguments here for and against Usenet. Personally > I say the rein of Usenet is coming to its logical conclusion. Dead as > a clavo! Much better interfaces abound. So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good features of the exi

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In article , Monte Milanuk wrote: >On 6/6/10 9:46 AM, Aahz wrote: >> >> but I prefer to rely on someone else's sysadmin and I >> really don't want to allow remote connections into my home network. > >To each their own... while Panix is fairly relaxed as a shell host, I >prefer to not have someon

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On 6/6/10 9:46 AM, Aahz wrote: but I prefer to rely on someone else's sysadmin and I really don't want to allow remote connections into my home network. To each their own... while Panix is fairly relaxed as a shell host, I prefer to not have someone else telling me what I can and can't install

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On Jun 2, 3:04 am, pyDev wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based > forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http:// > pythonforum.org). There has been many arguments here for and against Usenet. Personally I say the rein of Usenet is

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In article , Monte Milanuk wrote: >On 6/5/10 10:11 PM, Aahz wrote: >> In article, >> Monte Milanuk wrote: >>> >>> Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer >>> a 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. >> >> This seems like a good time to promote my ISP: pani

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On 6/5/10 10:11 PM, Aahz wrote: In article, Monte Milanuk wrote: Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer a 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. This seems like a good time to promote my ISP: panix.com Used to have an account with them... but of les

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In article <4c09b1f7$0$28659$c3e8...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >I'm sorry for all you people who don't live in a place with a genuinely >free market, and instead have to suffer with the lack of competition and >poor service of a monopoly or duopoly masquerading as a free mark

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In article , Monte Milanuk wrote: > >Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer >a 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. This seems like a good time to promote my ISP: panix.com -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.

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Lie Ryan writes: > On 06/05/10 12:34, John Bokma wrote: [..] >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/python >> >> But to be honest I mostly end up on Stack Overflow when I google for a >> specific problem, and most of the time I find a nice concise answer >> without much noise. > > Same her

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On 06/05/10 12:34, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan writes: > >> If you look at Stack Overflow, the highest voted questions are: >> >> - Hidden Features of C#? >> - What is the single most influential book every programmer should read? >> - What's your favorite "programmer" cartoon? >> - What is your

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Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:56:34 -0500, Jim Byrnes wrote: > >> I thought his point was they are big enough to have the resources to >> offer newsgroups but don't. If I want fast internet I must use Comcast >> and Comcast doesn't offer newsgroups either. Sadly is seems gett

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:55:08 -0500, John Bokma wrote: > "Alf P. Steinbach" writes: [...] >> It started, as I see it, back in the early 90's with Playboy attempting >> to sue anyone who used the Lena picture in photo processing tests etc. >> (it's the standard image for that). They failed in that

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Lie Ryan writes: > If you look at Stack Overflow, the highest voted questions are: > > - Hidden Features of C#? > - What is the single most influential book every programmer should read? > - What's your favorite "programmer" cartoon? > - What is your best programmer joke? > ... and so on > > many

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Grant Edwards writes: > On 2010-06-04, John Bokma wrote: >> Lie Ryan writes: >> >>> On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: Steven D'Aprano writes: > But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically > equals "better". I don't think that was the

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:29:58 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On 04 Jun 2010 05:41:17 GMT > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Sure, a lot of those 1,800 posts are spam, but the spammers wouldn't >> waste their time if they didn't think there were people still on >> Usenet. > > Kidding, right? Cost to s

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:22:21 +1000, Lie Ryan wrote: > Probably. A vote up/down feature tend to highlight popular problems, but > it also buries less popular problems that might have perfectly good > answers. I think Google Groups have 5-star-rating system? You might want > to check on that. I don

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:56:34 -0500, Jim Byrnes wrote: > I thought his point was they are big enough to have the resources to > offer newsgroups but don't. If I want fast internet I must use Comcast > and Comcast doesn't offer newsgroups either. Sadly is seems getting > access to newsgroups is ge

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On 06/05/10 06:57, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan writes: > >> On 06/04/10 11:56, John Bokma wrote: >>> Phlip writes: >>> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: >> You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >> questions, here??! > > I agree. This

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On 6/4/2010 3:04 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> gmane.comp.python.general where <==> is a bi-dire

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On 2010-06-04, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan writes: > >> On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: >>> Steven D'Aprano writes: >>> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically equals "better". >>> >>> I don't think that was the point. >>> >>> Anyway, not everbo

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geremy condra writes: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Bokma wrote: >> I know of the use of Lena. And to be honest, I agree with Playboy that >> they have the copyright. Some of the articles published on image >> processing end up behind a paywall or in a book. And I don't think the >> aut

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Bokma wrote: > I know of the use of Lena. And to be honest, I agree with Playboy that > they have the copyright. Some of the articles published on image > processing end up behind a paywall or in a book. And I don't think the > authors will be very happy if I c

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Lie Ryan writes: > On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: >> Steven D'Aprano writes: >> >>> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically >>> equals "better". >> >> I don't think that was the point. >> >> Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of pl

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Lie Ryan writes: > On 06/04/10 11:56, John Bokma wrote: >> Phlip writes: >> >>> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: >>> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level > questions, here??! I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right

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"Alf P. Steinbach" writes: > * John Bokma, on 04.06.2010 20:19: >> Steven D'Aprano writes: >> >>> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically >>> equals "better". >> >> I don't think that was the point. >> >> Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty o

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On 06/05/10 05:04, Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... >> On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: >> >>> Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? >> >> Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> >> gmane.comp.python.general >> >> where

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On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > >> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically >> equals "better". > > I don't think that was the point. > > Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of places > that have only one or

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On 06/04/10 11:56, John Bokma wrote: > Phlip writes: > >> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: >> You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level questions, here??! >>> >>> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right >>> place for you. >> >> Ah,

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* John Bokma, on 04.06.2010 20:19: Steven D'Aprano writes: But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically equals "better". I don't think that was the point. Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of places that have only one or maybe two. And if t

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On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> gmane.comp.python.general where <==> is a bi-directional gateway. Yes -- I use gmane as well.

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:36:02 +0200 "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote: > * Andreas Waldenburger, on 04.06.2010 20:21: > > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:57:15 +1000 Ben Finney > > wrote: > > > >> Andreas Waldenburger writes: > >> > >>> But consolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism > >>> bet

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Emile van Sebille writes: > On 6/3/2010 10:41 PM Steven D'Aprano said... >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> Most people use this list via e-mail, >> >> How do you know? Do you have evidence for this, or are you just making it >> up? >> > > Is there now a non-ema

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Steven D'Aprano writes: > Sure, a lot of those 1,800 posts are spam, but the spammers wouldn't > waste their time if they didn't think there were people still on > Usenet. Heh, since spamming goes automatically who cares how many people it reaches. I also see spam in which people forget to incl

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Pierre Quentel writes: > They certainly *can* distinguish. But it's so easy to make it more > explicit with syntax highlighting, background color, border etc. that > most sites about programing languages use it, including the Python > home site itself, or the Python cookbook on Active State [..]

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:28:23 -0700 Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 6/3/2010 10:41 PM Steven D'Aprano said... > > On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >> Most people use this list via e-mail, > > > > How do you know? Do you have evidence for this, or are you just > > maki

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* Andreas Waldenburger, on 04.06.2010 20:21: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:57:15 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: Andreas Waldenburger writes: But consolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism between c.l.p. and python-list is great already. Now throw some sort of Forum in the mix This

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On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> gmane.comp.python.general where <==> is a bi-directional gateway. Gmane mirrors about 250 other Python mailing lists under gman.comp.pyt

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:57:15 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Andreas Waldenburger writes: > > > But consolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism > > between c.l.p. and python-list is great already. Now throw some sort > > of Forum in the mix > > This already *is* a forum. Whatever

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Steven D'Aprano writes: > But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically > equals "better". I don't think that was the point. Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of places that have only one or maybe two. And if that's the choice and neither carri

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On 6/3/2010 10:41 PM Steven D'Aprano said... On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Most people use this list via e-mail, How do you know? Do you have evidence for this, or are you just making it up? Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Emile

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On 06/03/2010 04:15 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > The best solution I've seen is what is used by the Mono project; > which provides both a "web forum" and a mail list interface. > > > I just checked the archives

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Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:05:19 -0700, Phlip wrote: On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? Yes I have. Aren't they the people who were engaged in a long-run

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On 4 juin, 07:11, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:16:03 -0700, Pierre Quentel wrote: > > So the OP's initiative should be an incentive to think on the format of > > the interaction between all the range of Python users, from newbees to > > gurus. We are in the 2.0 era, with social

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On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 15:40 -0700, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: > > > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level > > > questions, here??! > > I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right > > place for you. > Ah, so you feel up to

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On 04 Jun 2010 05:41:17 GMT Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Sure, a lot of those 1,800 posts are spam, but the spammers wouldn't > waste their time if they didn't think there were people still on Usenet. Kidding, right? Cost to spam is virtually zero so the ROI is pretty close to infinite no matter ho

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Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:16:03 -0700, Pierre Quentel wrote: So the OP's initiative should be an incentive to think on the format of the interaction between all the range of Python users, from newbees to gurus. We are in the 2.0 era, with social networks all over the place u

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:05:19 -0700, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with > > You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? Yes I have. Aren't they the people who were engaged in a long-r

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > So? NNTP is the living dead. Time to let it go. So you say. I think the millions of posts on Usenet say different. According to Wikipedia, the average number of all text posts in the Big-8 newsgroups is 1,800 new messages every

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with > > You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? They were my ISP as of three weeks ago. Has something changed since t

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:16:03 -0700, Pierre Quentel wrote: > So the OP's initiative should be an incentive to think on the format of > the interaction between all the range of Python users, from newbees to > gurus. We are in the 2.0 era, with social networks all over the place > using a pleasant in

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On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:43:58 +, Monte Milanuk wrote: >> Decent NNTP access is harder to find.  Not impossible, but no longer a >> 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. > > I disagree. Since I've been on the Internet, over a d

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:43:58 +, Monte Milanuk wrote: > Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer a > 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. I disagree. Since I've been on the Internet, over a decade now (what can I say? I was a slow starter), I've had th

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Phlip writes: > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: > >> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >> > questions, here??! >> >> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right >> place for you. > > Ah, so you feel up to my "xsl for xmlrunner.py" que

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Dennis Lee Bieber writes: > I'm tempted to offer up that a lot of things that may once have been > covered in this general group have been migrated to specific mailing > lists (which are too many for me to consider subscribing just to do > one or two posts)... Which is also where NNTP shines: it

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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, geremy condra wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Phlip wrote: >> > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: >> >> >> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >> >> > questions, here??! >> >> >> I

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On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, geremy condra wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Phlip wrote: > > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: > > >> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level > >> > questions, here??! > > >> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the

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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: > >> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >> > questions, here??! >> >> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right >> place for you. > > Ah, so you feel up to

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On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: > > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level > > questions, here??! > > I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right > place for you. Ah, so you feel up to my "xsl for xmlrunner.py" question? -- http://mail.pyth

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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 2, 3:18 am, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Yuck; no better way to make new users hate your product than have a web >> forum - where they post questions > > Free of all the spam that leaks into here from the remnants of > USENET!!

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On Jun 2, 3:18 am, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > +1 > > Yuck; no better way to make new users hate your product than have a web > forum - where they post questions Free of all the spam that leaks into here from the remnants of USENET!! > and never get answers... You mean like how I never ge

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Adam Tauno Williams whitemice.org> writes: > > However, whether we like it or not: > > Fewer and fewer newcomers are willing, knowledgable, aware of nntp > > So? NNTP is the living dead. Time to let it go. > True. Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer a 'free

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Andreas Waldenburger writes: > But consolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism > between c.l.p. and python-list is great already. Now throw some sort > of Forum in the mix This already *is* a forum. Whatever it is you think is needed, it's already a forum. Can you be more spec

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On 03-Jun-10 09:08 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-06-03, News123 wrote: pyDev wrote: Hello, I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http:// pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python n

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On 03-Jun-10 09:08 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-06-03, News123 wrote: pyDev wrote: Hello, I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http:// pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python n

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On 06/03/10 22:50, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:42 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: >> Adam Tauno Williams writes: >>> On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: Adam Tauno Williams writes: > Most people use this list via e-mail... Do you know this to be t

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On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Pierre Quentel wrote: > So the OP's initiative should be an incentive to think on the format > of the interaction between all the range of Python users, from newbees > to gurus. We are in the 2.0 era, with social networks all over the > place using a pleasa

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On 2010-06-03, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:42 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: >> Adam Tauno Williams writes: >> > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: >> >> Adam Tauno Williams writes: >> >> > Most people use this list via e-mail... >> >> Do you know this to be

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On 2010-06-03, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: > On 06/03/10 12:46, Michele Simionato wrote: >> On Jun 3, 12:28 pm, "Martin P. Hellwig" >> wrote: >>> On the other hand it might not be so bad that you don't get questions >>> from users here who are unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. >> >

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On 2010-06-03, News123 wrote: > pyDev wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based >> forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http:// >> pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python >> newcomers to get help in expl

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On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:42 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: > Adam Tauno Williams writes: > > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: > >> Adam Tauno Williams writes: > >> > Most people use this list via e-mail... > >> Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess > > Scan through a b

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Adam Tauno Williams writes: > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: >> Adam Tauno Williams writes: >> > Most people use this list via e-mail... >> Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess? > > Scan through a bunch of threads with show-headers. Watch the User-Agent > va

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On 06/03/2010 07:16 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Most people use this list via e-mail... Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess? Scan through a bunch of threads with show-headers. Watch the User-Agent value (set by the senders client). The results become obvious pretty quickly

Re: Python Forum

On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:35 +0100, Paul Rudin wrote: > Adam Tauno Williams writes: > > Most people use this list via e-mail... > Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess? Scan through a bunch of threads with show-headers. Watch the User-Agent value (set by the senders client). The re

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On 06/03/10 12:46, Michele Simionato wrote: On Jun 3, 12:28 pm, "Martin P. Hellwig" wrote: On the other hand it might not be so bad that you don't get questions from users here who are unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. I am unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service

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Michele Simionato writes: > On Jun 3, 12:28 pm, "Martin P. Hellwig" > wrote: >> On the other hand it might not be so bad that you don't get questions >> from users here who are unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. > > I am unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. I us

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On Jun 3, 12:28 pm, "Martin P. Hellwig" wrote: > On the other hand it might not be so bad that you don't get questions > from users here who are unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. I am unable to use a nntp reader or news to mail service. I use the Google Groups interface and I a

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Adam Tauno Williams writes: > Most people use this list via e-mail... Do you know this to be the case, or is that a guess? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Adam Tauno Williams writes: > So? NNTP is the living dead. Time to let it go. The capabilities of NNTP clients are much better than email for tracking threaded discussions in multiple forums. I'll let it go when something better comes along, and not before. > Most people use this list via e-m

Re: Python Forum

On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 03:16 -0700, Pierre Quentel wrote: > I agree that it's not efficient to split the community by creating > another forum. But we can't ignore the fact that c.l.p's activity has > been decreasing in the last years : > 200042971 > 200155265 > 200256774 > 200364521

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On 06/03/10 11:16, Pierre Quentel wrote: I'm not saying that pythonforum.org is the best solution but it certainly looks more attractive than c.l.p. to the new generation of Python users - Pierre On the other hand it might not be so bad that you don't get questions from users here who are un

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On 3 juin, 10:57, Ben Finney wrote: > News123 writes: > > However, whether we like it or not: > > Fewer and fewer newcomers are willing, knowledgable, aware of nntp > > If so, isn't that an indication that better education about the benefits > is required? Perhaps in combination with improving th

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