Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-10 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >To try and ensure this thread dies for ever, I have added a note to the >blog entry at > > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html > >noting the fact that this was indeed an April Fool's joke.

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-10 Thread Flexx
Steve Holden >> It was an April Fool's joke. It's not actually true. >> > To try and ensure this thread dies for ever, I have added a note to the > blog entry at > > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html > > noting the fact that this was indeed an April Fool's j

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-09 Thread Steve Holden
Robert Kern wrote: > Francisco Reyes wrote: > >>Shane Hathaway writes: >> >> >>>I must saay that i am fully in favor of this change. The ppython >>>developerrs need to eat too. Iis no one ellse aware off the perils oof >>>ooutright open source llicenssing? >> >>I disagree with the change. I th

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-08 Thread Robert Kern
Francisco Reyes wrote: > Shane Hathaway writes: > >>I must saay that i am fully in favor of this change. The ppython >>developerrs need to eat too. Iis no one ellse aware off the perils oof >>ooutright open source llicenssing? > > I disagree with the change. I think Steve Holden is right. >

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-08 Thread Francisco Reyes
Shane Hathaway writes: > I must saay that i am fully in favor of this change. The ppython > developerrs need to eat too. Iis no one ellse aware off the perils oof > ooutright open source llicenssing? I disagree with the change. I think Steve Holden is right. 1- How do you enforce this? 2- Th

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-03 Thread Steve Holden
Philippe Martin wrote: > That was nasty Steve - at least I'm ready for any kind of bad new today ;-) > Sorry ;-) regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog holdenweb.blogspot.com --

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-03 Thread Philippe Martin
That was nasty Steve - at least I'm ready for any kind of bad new today ;-) Regards, Philippe Steve Holden wrote: > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described > in > >http://pyfound.b

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-03 Thread Tim Roberts
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a >recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html > >I would like to place on reco

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"walterbyrd" wrote: > Please post a link to the original article. Not just a post to a blog. the pyfound blog is the official PSF blog; it's linked from the PSF:s homepage: http://www.python.org/psf/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Ray
Steve Holden wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Is this an April fool's joke? > > > > > > Did you read the blog entry? > > > I suspect he didn't. I'm guessing that eventually we'll have to remove > the blog entry just so's nobobdy's t

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Steve Holden
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Is this an April fool's joke? > > > Did you read the blog entry? > I suspect he didn't. I'm guessing that eventually we'll have to remove the blog entry just so's nobobdy's tempted to take it seriously. regards

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Steve Holden
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a >>recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in >> >> http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Grant Edwards a écrit : > On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a >>recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in >> >> http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensi

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-01, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this an April fool's joke? Did you read the blog entry? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I will invent "TIDY at BOWL"... visi.com

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread walterbyrd
Is this an April fool's joke? Please post a link to the original article. Not just a post to a blog. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread EP
> > >Hmmm... after due consideration (and reading the announcmement >properly), I support this license change in full. > > > If I could read past the first paragraph do you think I would really hang onto this newsgroup asking stupid questions?! The personal harm caused readers of this announc

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Fuzzyman wrote: > From the site: "Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented License" string = "Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented License" for letter in string: if ord(letter) in range(65,91): print(letter), --

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread reedobrien
That isn't in the published 2.5 License. http://docs.python.org/dev/ref/node110.html Thanks for the scare.. ~r -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Roy Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > >http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-01, Piet van Oostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Fuzzyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (F) wrote: > >>F> Can I ask for clarification. The charge applies to any commercial use >>F> of a derivative work based on the Python source code ? > >>F> Normal applications that use Python, including

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-01, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > >http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html Good one Steve

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at the date. Worry about this if it is still around tomarrow -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Kent Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Aww, but I liked the idea of copying Perl 6 REs, and porting python to > the toy CPU :-) I think if PSF is going to support porting of Python to "toy" CPUs then the Digi-Comp should be the first target. This will breathe new life into these toys which for years have be

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread bearophileHUGS
Ivan Herman>I would certainly look at *all details* of the announcement,< Aww, but I liked the idea of copying Perl 6 REs, and porting python to the toy CPU :-) (But making strings mutable sounds too much strange). Bye and thank you, bearophile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Ivan Herman
I would certainly look at *all details* of the announcement, including the second line from the top which gives the date:-) Ivan Caleb Hattingh wrote: > WAIT- > > Did I just get caught by an April Fools Joke? > > I have a nasty feeling about this :)) > > C > -- http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> "Fuzzyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (F) wrote: >F> Can I ask for clarification. The charge applies to any commercial use >F> of a derivative work based on the Python source code ? >F> Normal applications that use Python, including bunding the standard >F> CPython as an executable, using tools li

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Caleb Hattingh
WAIT- Did I just get caught by an April Fools Joke? I have a nasty feeling about this :)) C -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Caleb Hattingh
Steve I agree with you. If my vote means anything, I vote against it. >> The Board realises that this change will be >> contentious. There are many advantages >> to making it, however, which we feel will >> benefit the Python community at large >> and the PSF membership in particular. >> Users w

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Fuzzyman
Fuzzyman wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: > > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > > > >http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html > > > > I would like to

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Fuzzyman
Steve Holden wrote: > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > >http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html > > I would like to place on record my protest aga

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steve Holden wrote: > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > >http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html I must saay that i am fully in favor of this cha

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Kay Schluehr
Steve Holden wrote: > As the only director of the Python Software Foundation to vote against a > recent Board motion to implement the change in licensing terms described in > >http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2006/04/python-25-licensing-change.html > > I would like to place on record my protest aga

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread ajones
I say good riddence. Python's success has always been on its merits as an open source application platform. Corprate usage has always been relatively insignificant, and I suspect that many companies are overrepresenting the level of dependance they have on python in an attempt to steer their compet