Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread wesley chun
(warning: LONG reply) thanks to those above for the kind remarks. tackling comments and questions, not quite in chronological order. :-) > Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? this book is targeted towards technical professionals already literate in another high-level

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Salerno
John Coleman wrote: > John Coleman wrote: >> John Salerno wrote: >>> John Coleman wrote: Greetings, My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" just arrived from Amazon on Friday. >>> Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought >>>

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Coleman
John Coleman wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > > John Coleman wrote: > > > Greetings, > > >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > > > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. > > > > Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought > > about getting

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Coleman
John Salerno wrote: > John Coleman wrote: > > Greetings, > >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. > > Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought > about getting it, but I'm not sure if it will be e

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-30 Thread John Salerno
John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. Who would you say the book is aimed at? Advanced programmers? I thought about getting it, but I'm not sure if it will be either 1) too much repetition of

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread David Lees
John Coleman wrote: > Greetings, >My copy of the second edition of Chun's "Core Python Programming" > just arrived from Amazon on Friday. What really jumped out at me is an > interesting feature about how it sequences its topics, namely, > (user-defined) functions are not introduced until chapt

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread UrsusMaximus
I must say I find Wesley Chun's explanations to be most understandable. I cant' exactly figure out why yet, but he has a way of explaining something, like, say, decorators, that in minimal words elucidates for me the intent behind why they are useful. That helps me understand how they work. I just

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
...Skimmed through the previous edition. I don't normally read programming books -- just use the chapters that I need when I need them, unless of course there is a clever plot twist coming up ahead (for ex.: "Next: The revenge of lambdas. Will they stay or will they go?" ;-) Why? Have you read

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
I meant "omitted" not as complete omission but as not being there sooner... John Coleman wrote: > A is not ommitted from DBECAFG - it just appears in a non-standard > order. If the book simply ommitted functions then it would be a > shocking ommission. As it is, it is just a curious way of sequenc

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread John Coleman
A is not ommitted from DBECAFG - it just appears in a non-standard order. If the book simply ommitted functions then it would be a shocking ommission. As it is, it is just a curious way of sequencing topics. Functions are in chapter 11 out of 23 chapters - sounds like the "core" of the book to me.

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Nick Vatamaniuc wrote: > I would consider that an omission. Functions are very important in > Python. I think the user/reader should see the _def_ and _class_ > statement fairly soon in the introduction. The name of the book is > thus somewhat misleading, because functions are at the "core" of >

Re: Observation on "Core Python Programming"

2006-10-29 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
I would consider that an omission. Functions are very important in Python. I think the user/reader should see the _def_ and _class_ statement fairly soon in the introduction. The name of the book is thus somewhat misleading, because functions are at the "core" of Python. Functions should be right