Re: IDE Question

2008-10-19 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:17:35 -0300, Fabio Zadrozny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [I wrote] >> (As a side note: I don't use Eclipse myself, but I have seen novice >> programmers editing Python code with it, and what saw wasn't >> impressive. They *did* some kind of Python "plugin" installed, but >> wer

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-18 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
> Isn't Eclipse kind of project oriented? I.e. not suited for opening a > single file, anywhere, and viewing/editing it. I get the impression > that it prefers to have some "project" or "workspace" file which > groups a set of files and contains configuration, build rules and so > on. The guy thr

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-18 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:02:45 -0700 (PDT), jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 15, 1:19 pm, "Steve Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi All, >> I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason >> I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It >>

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-18 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT), jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 15, 2:13 pm, "Fabio Zadrozny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Now, following that route, many people call Eclipse is the 21st >> century Emacs... ;-) >> > > I don't want to kick off an editor war or anything, but I don'

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-18 Thread Pat
Steve Phillips wrote: Hi All, I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that others don't and viceversa. I am in search for the perfect IDE

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-17 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
> Although PyDev > looked promissing and the main annoyances from the first try (like an > intelisense that needed half a minute) had been solved, I was still > missing some things, like a realy good integration of the python shell > into it. That's been done: http://pydev.sourceforge.net/console.

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-17 Thread Propad
> On Oct 15, 2:19 pm, "Steve Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. > Hello, I also purhcased my copy of Wing IDE six months ago, after having used Idle, Scite and Leo quite extensively. I gave PyDev two tries, one in the be

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Oct 15, 2:19 pm, "Steve Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. Well, you have already had many replies. For some context; I am an serious open source advocate. But for productivity I haven't been able to beat WingIDE. Thei

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-16 Thread Peter Anderson
I have been using the two following Python IDE's on both Windows and Ubuntu: * PyScripter - http://mmm-experts.com/ * DrPython - http://sourceforge.net/projects/drpython/ PyScripter is, I think, the better but both are nice editors and easy to use. Regards, Peter -- *Peter Anderson* The

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Aaron "Castironpi" Brady
On Oct 15, 1:07 pm, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Phillips wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason > > I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It > > seems like every one I find and try out has somethi

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Dick Moores
Have you seen Kelie Feng's video introducing the terrific and free IDE, Ulipad? Get Ulipad 3.9 from svn for the latest revision Mailing list for Ulipad:

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Craig Allen
it's commercial, but I like WingIDE enough to recommend... I run it on Linux and Mac and it works well. -craig On Oct 15, 7:19 am, "Steve Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason > I ask is I am currently at war with m

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Oct 15, 12:29 pm, "Chris Rebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can find a list and several reviews > onhttp://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments > I think Wing IDE (http://www.wingware.com/products) is generally > thought to be the most sophisticated one; but it's neither

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Egon Frerich
Steve Phillips schrieb: Hi All, I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that others don't and viceversa. I am in search for the perfect I

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread jdd
On Oct 15, 3:47 pm, "Fabio Zadrozny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should be able to have it having multiple views for the same > file: although it does that by doing a new editor, and then you can > place that new editor as you want -- below some existing, to the > right, etc -- or you can

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
>> Now, following that route, many people call Eclipse is the 21st >> century Emacs... ;-) >> > > I don't want to kick off an editor war or anything, but I don't think > that Eclipse is anywhere near being a 21st century emacs, Peace! I'm far from starting any war too (I don't usually try to convi

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Phillips
I too did try Eclipse for Python and it totally wasn't for me. It is awesome for java though. The Android stuff I was doing I was using Eclipse. On 10/15/08, Steve Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All, > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason > I ask is I

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread jdd
On Oct 15, 2:13 pm, "Fabio Zadrozny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, following that route, many people call Eclipse is the 21st > century Emacs... ;-) > I don't want to kick off an editor war or anything, but I don't think that Eclipse is anywhere near being a 21st century emacs, unless there's

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Phillips
Thanks for all of your responses. I did forget to mention that I do use Notepad++ for just about everything. My larger scripts I use that and just say the hell with the auto-complete and the call-tips. I lived on that wiki page and actually still do waiting to see if something new was going to b

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
> I would personally recommend that you take the time to learn your way > around a powerful text editor such as emacs or vim (I use emacs, > myself), however that may not fit well with your personal editing > tastes, and the learning curve is a bit steep. The editing tastes > problem can be solved

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Stef Mientki
Steve Phillips wrote: Hi All, I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that others don't and viceversa. I am in search for the perfect IDE

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread jdd
On Oct 15, 1:19 pm, "Steve Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason > I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It > seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that > others don't

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread tomohiro kusumi
How about pyscripter or pydev (eclipse plugin), although I don't know if they are the most popular one. I use them on Windows. Tomohiro Kusumi 2008/10/16 Steve Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi All, > I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason > I ask is I am currently

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
> I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason > I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE's. It > seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that > others don't and viceversa. I am in search for the perfect IDE and > after many months

Re: IDE Question

2008-10-15 Thread Chris Rebert
You can find a list and several reviews on http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments I think Wing IDE (http://www.wingware.com/products) is generally thought to be the most sophisticated one; but it's neither open-source nor gratis (they do let noncommerical open-source devs get